Comments on: Would Gore have gone to war? http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:38:07 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Hamachi http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223374 Hamachi Mon, 08 Oct 2007 01:10:29 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223374 I can't believe I agree with Mr. Meaner. Uggh. ;-) At least we can post smiley faces. I can’t believe I agree with Mr. Meaner. Uggh. ;-)

At least we can post smiley faces.

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]]> By: CoyoteBlue http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223227 CoyoteBlue Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:28:05 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223227 KRM, I keep trying to answer you, but there seems to be a glitch. You know Gore has a belief on global warming that is not without evidence which has been looked at and reviewed in scientific communities. Making the comparison to the CIA here is a little apples and oranges. I do think a Gore administration might have been privately more skeptical about WMD and likely would not have formed separate high-level intel analysis at the Pentagon (run by a deputy assistant secretary for defense) and probably would have listened to experts who did not think there was a legit Hussein-al Qaida connection. I do think a Gore Administration would probably have capitalized on the opportunity to convert the global sympathy the US got after 9-11 into a real dividend, rather than fritter it away as the Bush Administration did. I do think a Gore Administration would have put more effort into Afghanistan. However, I also think that a Gore Administration would ultimately have been doomed as right wingers would not pull punches in support of the Administration to protect America but would have excoriated Gore and the dems as weak. That is simply how the right wingers play. I also think a Gore Administration would not have created the Gtmo mess. KRM,

I keep trying to answer you, but there seems to be a glitch.

You know Gore has a belief on global warming that is not without evidence which has been looked at and reviewed in scientific communities. Making the comparison to the CIA here is a little apples and oranges. I do think a Gore administration might have been privately more skeptical about WMD and likely would not have formed separate high-level intel analysis at the Pentagon (run by a deputy assistant secretary for defense) and probably would have listened to experts who did not think there was a legit Hussein-al Qaida connection. I do think a Gore Administration would probably have capitalized on the opportunity to convert the global sympathy the US got after 9-11 into a real dividend, rather than fritter it away as the Bush Administration did. I do think a Gore Administration would have put more effort into Afghanistan. However, I also think that a Gore Administration would ultimately have been doomed as right wingers would not pull punches in support of the Administration to protect America but would have excoriated Gore and the dems as weak. That is simply how the right wingers play. I also think a Gore Administration would not have created the Gtmo mess.

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]]> By: CoyoteBlue http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223226 CoyoteBlue Sat, 06 Oct 2007 21:27:08 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223226 KRM You know Gore has a belief on global warming that is not without evidence which has been looked at and reviewed in scientific communities. Making the comparison to the CIA here is a little apples and oranges. I do think a Gore administration might have been privately more skeptical about WMD and likely would not have formed separate high-level intel analysis at the Pentagon (run by a deputy assistant secretary for defense) and probably would have listened to experts who did not think there was a legit Hussein-al Qaida connection. I do think a Gore Administration would probably have capitalized on the opportunity to convert the global sympathy the US got after 9-11 into a real dividend, rather than fritter it away as the Bush Administration did. I do think a Gore Administration would have put more effort into Afghanistan. However, I also think that a Gore Administration would ultimately have been doomed as right wingers would not pull punches in support of the Administration to protect America but would have excoriated Gore and the dems as weak. That is simply how the right wingers play. I also think a Gore Administration would not have created the Gtmo mess. KRM

You know Gore has a belief on global warming that is not without evidence which has been looked at and reviewed in scientific communities. Making the comparison to the CIA here is a little apples and oranges. I do think a Gore administration might have been privately more skeptical about WMD and likely would not have formed separate high-level intel analysis at the Pentagon (run by a deputy assistant secretary for defense) and probably would have listened to experts who did not think there was a legit Hussein-al Qaida connection. I do think a Gore Administration would probably have capitalized on the opportunity to convert the global sympathy the US got after 9-11 into a real dividend, rather than fritter it away as the Bush Administration did. I do think a Gore Administration would have put more effort into Afghanistan. However, I also think that a Gore Administration would ultimately have been doomed as right wingers would not pull punches in support of the Administration to protect America but would have excoriated Gore and the dems as weak. That is simply how the right wingers play. I also think a Gore Administration would not have created the Gtmo mess.

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]]> By: CoyoteBlue http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223141 CoyoteBlue Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:18:19 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223141 You know Gore has a belief on global warming that is not without evidence which has been looked at and reviewed in scientific communities. Making the comparison to the CIA here is a little apples and oranges. I do think a Gore administration might have been privately more skeptical about WMD and likely would not have formed separate high-level intel analysis at the Pentagon (run by a deputy assistant secretary for defense) and probably would have listened to experts who did not think there was a legit Hussein-al Qaida connection. I do think a Gore Administration would probably have capitalized on the opportunity to convert the global sympathy the US got after 9-11 into a real dividend, rather than fritter it away as the Bush Administration did. I do think a Gore Administration would have put more effort into Afghanistan. However, I also think that a Gore Administration would ultimately have been doomed as right wingers would not pull punches in support of the Administration to protect America but would have excoriated Gore and the dems as weak. That is simply how the right wingers play. I also think a Gore Administration would not have created the Gtmo mess. You know Gore has a belief on global warming that is not without evidence which has been looked at and reviewed in scientific communities. Making the comparison to the CIA here is a little apples and oranges. I do think a Gore administration might have been privately more skeptical about WMD and likely would not have formed separate high-level intel analysis at the Pentagon (run by a deputy assistant secretary for defense) and probably would have listened to experts who did not think there was a legit Hussein-al Qaida connection. I do think a Gore Administration would probably have capitalized on the opportunity to convert the global sympathy the US got after 9-11 into a real dividend, rather than fritter it away as the Bush Administration did. I do think a Gore Administration would have put more effort into Afghanistan. However, I also think that a Gore Administration would ultimately have been doomed as right wingers would not pull punches in support of the Administration to protect America but would have excoriated Gore and the dems as weak. That is simply how the right wingers play. I also think a Gore Administration would not have created the Gtmo mess.

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]]> By: CoyoteBlue http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223140 CoyoteBlue Sat, 06 Oct 2007 16:14:17 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223140 KRM You know Gore has a belief on global warming that is not without evidence which has been looked at and reviewed in scientific communities. Making the comparison to the CIA here is a little apples and oranges. I do think a Gore administration might have been privately more skeptical about WMD and likely would not have formed separate high-level intel analysis at the Pentagon (run by a deputy assistant secretary for defense) and probably would have listened to experts who did not think there was a legit Hussein-al Qaida connection. I do think a Gore Administration would probably have capitalized on the opportunity to convert the global sympathy the US got after 9-11 into a real dividend, rather than fritter it away as the Bush Administration did. I do think a Gore Administration would have put more effort into Afghanistan. However, I also think that a Gore Administration would ultimately have been doomed as right wingers would not pull punches in support of the Administration to protect America but would have excoriated Gore and the dems as weak. That is simply how the right wingers play. I also think a Gore Administration would not have created the Gtmo mess. KRM

You know Gore has a belief on global warming that is not without evidence which has been looked at and reviewed in scientific communities. Making the comparison to the CIA here is a little apples and oranges. I do think a Gore administration might have been privately more skeptical about WMD and likely would not have formed separate high-level intel analysis at the Pentagon (run by a deputy assistant secretary for defense) and probably would have listened to experts who did not think there was a legit Hussein-al Qaida connection. I do think a Gore Administration would probably have capitalized on the opportunity to convert the global sympathy the US got after 9-11 into a real dividend, rather than fritter it away as the Bush Administration did. I do think a Gore Administration would have put more effort into Afghanistan. However, I also think that a Gore Administration would ultimately have been doomed as right wingers would not pull punches in support of the Administration to protect America but would have excoriated Gore and the dems as weak. That is simply how the right wingers play. I also think a Gore Administration would not have created the Gtmo mess.

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]]> By: VS http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223107 VS Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:51:32 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223107 Be patient Mr. Meaner...things will eventually get worked out. (Yes, many of us have had the same problem.) Be patient Mr. Meaner…things will eventually get worked out. (Yes, many of us have had the same problem.)

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]]> By: krm http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223101 krm Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:18:30 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223101 coyoteblue - Do you think for even a moment that Gore wouldn't have done those very things? After listening to the twists and turns and outright fabrications in his Global Warming screeds, it would appear that Gore would have made the job GWB did in making his pitch for the war look down right understated, conservative and accurate. coyoteblue – Do you think for even a moment that Gore wouldn’t have done those very things?

After listening to the twists and turns and outright fabrications in his Global Warming screeds, it would appear that Gore would have made the job GWB did in making his pitch for the war look down right understated, conservative and accurate.

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]]> By: CoyoteBlue http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223099 CoyoteBlue Sat, 06 Oct 2007 13:18:20 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223099 LOL. Would Gore's veep have directed the CIA to find the linkages they wanted? Would the CIA have had the discipline to not craft its message to what it thought the bosses wanted? Because that ladies and gents was a part of the problem. LOL. Would Gore’s veep have directed the CIA to find the linkages they wanted? Would the CIA have had the discipline to not craft its message to what it thought the bosses wanted? Because that ladies and gents was a part of the problem.

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]]> By: Sawgunner http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223090 Sawgunner Sat, 06 Oct 2007 11:41:17 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223090 The Clinton Gore admin provided some of the harshest anti-Saddam rhetoric around. I think in the early years of Clinton's first term, all the negative jibes at Saddam were intended to subtly remind voters "Bush left this fiend in power! How dumb is that?" I liken it to the same anti-Chinese rhetoric Clinton-Gore spouted to remind folks of the Tiananmen massacre and Bush I's "no big deal" attitude about it. So by the time GW Bush came to the WH, there was an extensive collection of sound bites and printed statemts by the Clintonistas about how evil the Saddam regime was. (In fact, it was a Clintonista who green-lighted the attack with his assinine "slam dunk" remarks to Bush-Cheney). There is no reason to believe that Gore would not have also swallowed George Tenet's "analysis" hook, line and sinker as well. The Clinton Gore admin provided some of the harshest anti-Saddam rhetoric around. I think in the early years of Clinton’s first term, all the negative jibes at Saddam were intended to subtly remind voters “Bush left this fiend in power! How dumb is that?” I liken it to the same anti-Chinese rhetoric Clinton-Gore spouted to remind folks of the Tiananmen massacre and Bush I’s “no big deal” attitude about it.
So by the time GW Bush came to the WH, there was an extensive collection of sound bites and printed statemts by the Clintonistas about how evil the Saddam regime was. (In fact, it was a Clintonista who green-lighted the attack with his assinine “slam dunk” remarks to Bush-Cheney).
There is no reason to believe that Gore would not have also swallowed George Tenet’s “analysis” hook, line and sinker as well.

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]]> By: Kwerna http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/comment-page-1/#comment-223071 Kwerna Sat, 06 Oct 2007 03:46:28 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/05/would-gore-have-gone-to-war/#comment-223071 Gore woulda saved the Earth-in-a-Balance and put out a new version of the internet and fixed his tenant's plumbing and... an' EVERYTHING! Gore woulda saved the Earth-in-a-Balance and put out a new version of the internet and fixed his tenant’s plumbing and… an’ EVERYTHING!

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