Comments on: Meditation http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:58:01 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: EYG http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223290 EYG Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:22:56 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223290 Last Sunday, an elder preached on the bad Samaritan and the good Samaritan. He made an observation that he thought the good Samaritan had been encountered by Jesus prior to the account in the story. He said he would just bet that he was changed when Jesus was in Samaria (where/when he encountered the woman at the well. It sounds plausible. Because that kind of care and generosity would come from a grateful, transformed heart. Last Sunday, an elder preached on the bad Samaritan and the good Samaritan.
He made an observation that he thought the good Samaritan had been encountered by Jesus prior to the account in the story.
He said he would just bet that he was changed when Jesus was in Samaria (where/when he encountered the woman at the well.
It sounds plausible. Because that kind of care and generosity would come from a grateful, transformed heart.

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]]> By: Xion http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223254 Xion Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:08:13 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223254 P.S. In the scriptural quote above in the topic paragraphs, the word Jesus is inserted incorrectly. The lawyer answered with the quotes from the law. P.S. In the scriptural quote above in the topic paragraphs, the word Jesus is inserted incorrectly. The lawyer answered with the quotes from the law.

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]]> By: Xion http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223253 Xion Sat, 06 Oct 2007 23:06:27 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223253 It is fascinating to watch Jesus teach, especially the lawyers. The lawyer is trying to trip Jesus up and then quibbles about the definition of the word 'neighbor'. Jesus proceeds to demonstrate to this law scholar how people can spend their lives studying the law and miss the law, while a lowly Samaritan gets it. Jesus puts the scholar to shame and at the same time gives him a lesson about Grace, i.e. unearned kindness. In much the same way, Jewish scholars would soon reject a lowly man from Galilee who was full of Grace and Truth. It is fascinating to watch Jesus teach, especially the lawyers. The lawyer is trying to trip Jesus up and then quibbles about the definition of the word ‘neighbor’.

Jesus proceeds to demonstrate to this law scholar how people can spend their lives studying the law and miss the law, while a lowly Samaritan gets it.

Jesus puts the scholar to shame and at the same time gives him a lesson about Grace, i.e. unearned kindness. In much the same way, Jewish scholars would soon reject a lowly man from Galilee who was full of Grace and Truth.

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]]> By: Xion http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223248 Xion Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:39:56 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223248 Is there a typo in the passage above? The word [Jesus] is inserted in brackets, but that is the lawyer talking. . Is there a typo in the passage above? The word [Jesus] is inserted in brackets, but that is the lawyer talking. .

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]]> By: Xion http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223247 Xion Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:38:58 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223247 My posts aren't getting through ... maybe this one will. My posts aren’t getting through … maybe this one will.

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]]> By: Xion http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223246 Xion Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:37:57 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223246 Is there a typo in the passage above? The word [Jesus] is inserted in brackets, but that is the lawyer talking. Is there a typo in the passage above? The word [Jesus] is inserted in brackets, but that is the lawyer talking.

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]]> By: Xion http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223245 Xion Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:37:21 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223245 Is there a typo in the passage above? The word [Jesus] is inserted in brackets, but that is the lawyer talking. It is fascinating to watch Jesus teach, especially the lawyers. The lawyer is trying to trip Jesus up and then quibbles about the definition of the word 'neighbor'. Jesus proceeds to demonstrate to this law scholar how people can spend their lives studying the law and miss the law, while a lowly Samaritan gets it. Jesus puts the scholar to shame and at the same time gives him a lesson about Grace, i.e. unearned kindness. In much the same way, Jewish scholars would soon reject a lowly man from Galilee who was full of Grace and Truth. Is there a typo in the passage above? The word [Jesus] is inserted in brackets, but that is the lawyer talking.

It is fascinating to watch Jesus teach, especially the lawyers. The lawyer is trying to trip Jesus up and then quibbles about the definition of the word ‘neighbor’.

Jesus proceeds to demonstrate to this law scholar how people can spend their lives studying the law and miss the law, while a lowly Samaritan gets it.

Jesus puts the scholar to shame and at the same time gives him a lesson about Grace, i.e. unearned kindness. In much the same way, Jewish scholars would soon reject a lowly man from Galilee who was full of Grace and Truth.

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]]> By: Chas http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223180 Chas Sat, 06 Oct 2007 19:02:31 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223180 Continued again: The essence of the story is not, "who is my neighbor", but "who is exempted". Jesus chose two men who had good excuses. To deal with a bloody man who might die would contaminate them ceremonially. They could justify their actions to themselves, but not before God. The Samaritan discovere a man who needed him, thus he had a claim on his love. In Romans 13:10, Paul has given the Romans insight into righteousness. He cites from the law, then says. (v.10) "Love works no ill to it's neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law. The multiple posts are because I don't trust the system to take everything. Continued again:
The essence of the story is not, “who is my neighbor”, but “who is exempted”. Jesus chose two men who had good excuses. To deal with a bloody man who might die would contaminate them ceremonially. They could justify their actions to themselves, but not before God. The Samaritan discovere a man who needed him, thus he had a claim on his love.
In Romans 13:10, Paul has given the Romans insight into righteousness. He cites from the law, then says. (v.10) “Love works no ill to it’s neighbor, therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

The multiple posts are because I don’t trust the system to take everything.

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]]> By: Chas http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223176 Chas Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:43:38 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223176 Continued: There are actually two methods of obtaining eternal life: 1. Absolute obedience. 2. Faith that God, through Christ, will forgive us of our sins and give us a new birth. (Rom. 3.21f,) But now the righteousness of God, apart from the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets, Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jusus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe, for there is no difference. For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God, Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus. Continued:
There are actually two methods of obtaining eternal life:
1. Absolute obedience.
2. Faith that God, through Christ, will forgive us of our sins and give us a new birth.
(Rom. 3.21f,) But now the righteousness of God, apart from the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets,
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jusus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe, for there is no difference.
For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God,
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.

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]]> By: Chas http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/comment-page-1/#comment-223174 Chas Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:33:08 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/06/meditation-18/#comment-223174 Mark Roth: We should not infer from Lk. 10:28 that a person can "work" himself into salvation. Jesus answers a question about "what shall I do" with a story. (This could have been an actual event, though many treat it as a parable.) The story is about a person who would not have been allowed into the scribe's synagogue. The Samaritan fulled the essence of the law while the lawyer strictly obeyed the letter. (As many Muslems do today.) Jesus said, if you can obey all the law, you live (v.28). But he had already broken the law. (Try this to see if it takes.) Mark Roth:
We should not infer from Lk. 10:28 that a person can “work” himself into salvation. Jesus answers a question about “what shall I do” with a story. (This could have been an actual event, though many treat it as a parable.) The story is about a person who would not have been allowed into the scribe’s synagogue. The Samaritan fulled the essence of the law while the lawyer strictly obeyed the letter. (As many Muslems do today.) Jesus said, if you can obey all the law, you live (v.28). But he had already broken the law.

(Try this to see if it takes.)

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