Orange County sheriff’s deputies said they responded to a 911 call at 4:20 p.m. Saturday from Indian men during a cricket match in Orlando led to an on-the-field shooting that seriously injured one of the players, according to police.

Orange County sheriff’s deputies said they responded to a 911 call at 4:20 p.m. Saturday from a cricket match at Cyprus Grove Park and found Francis Singh, 36, shot in the abdomen.

Officers said Singh apparently became involved in a fight and threatened Devan Bascom, 37, with a cricket bat.

Police said Bascom then pulled a small semi-automatic gun and fired at Singh, hitting him at least once.

“The shooter was defending himself from an attack with a cricket bat which is simlar to a baseball bat but it’s flat,” Orange County sheriff’s Sgt. Spike Hopkins said. “For this man to bring a firearm to a sporting event is odd but then again, he has the right to do so. He has a concealed weapons permit and if, in fact, he was protecting himself, he was authorized by law to do so.”

Singh was transported to Orlando Regional Medical Center and was undergoing surgery late Saturday.

There have been no arrests made in the case as the investigation continues.

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Police said Timothy Cleary of Apopka walked into the Harvest Baptist Church located in the Parramore neighborhood in Orlando and attacked the body.

Mourners at the funeral then attacked Cleary while others called 911.

When officers arrived, they took Cleary into custody at the church. He faces several charges in connection with the incident.

A public defender wanted Cleary held for a mental evaluation but a judge set bond Saturday at $350.

A motive for the alleged attack was not known.

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This may bear out #322. I don’t know.

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People are “social” creatures. We are desinged for love. We are desinged for community. Wheter the design happened because of millions of years of evolution, which I believe, or by a mystical being through occult means, it is the way we are. To deny this is cruel, heatless and mean beyond measure.

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I am not a homosexual. I’ve never had any doubt in that matter.

I’ve known a lot of homosexuals in my 63 years of life. There seem to be a lot of stories and a lot of reasons. However, as far as I can tell, most homosexuals do not “choose” to be that way.

As far as ethics go, I am a pragmatist. If actions produce bad results, I consider it bad. Murder is bad. Rape is bad. Stealing is bad. My ethical system is not without problems and issues. The claims I read here by people who claim their ethical system based on a book of myths comes from “absolutes” does not strike me as an improvement on my system in theory or practice.

From an practical point of view, monogamous marriage between a heterosexual couple probably works best for most people. If people for religious reasons want to reserve the word “marriage” for such arrangements, fine with me as long as they are willing to allow sensible civil arrangements for people who live in responsible relationships. (Usual disclaimer about adults, consent, etc.) I was relieved to discover that my daughter and her partner hold more or less the same view, so there’s no discord in my barely extended family on the topic.

I find the what about “group marriages” etc. arguments that pop up here tiresome. Same rule.

I just had a discussion with someone who told me about a threesome she knew (two woman and a man) who had lived in accord for a number of years.

I don’t advocate this as a good plan for most people, but it doesn’t disturb me. I am more disturbed by people who get excited by the very idea and have to post a zillion messages lamenting it. I call such carrying on, “evangelical pornography.”

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My point is that whatever causes some people to be homosexual, it isn’t them deciding to be. It’s important because if you’re going to call something “sin,” it should at least be something over which the person has some control and some choice (real choice) in the matter.

If you are wired in a way that makes you do certain things, how is that your fault? We generally understand that a person with Tourette’s Syndrome isn’t being profane on purpose. Most people recognize that addicts are not always in control of their behavior. That may not mean allowing them free rein to injure others, but it does mean recognizing them as ill and not evil.

Now, I think homosexuality is something like left-handedness… a natural condition that is true of a minority of people, and that is benign in itself. Just like heterosexuality, the sin is found or not in how they conduct their relationships .. with honesty and integrity or with deception and impurity.

But even if it really were to be morally wrong, how can it be “sin” if it is just how you are? (And even celibate homosexuals must have sexual thoughts, so they still “sin” in the eyes of Christians.)

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The “choice” tag is usually used as opposed to a genetic/inborn notion of why someone would be homosexual. It does not seem to be either genetic or consciously choosen. I suspect it is a combination of things (and the mix of which factors play how much significance may well be different for different people) – genetic predisposition, natal development issues and upbringing/socialization are all likely relevant factors.

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Don’t forget, as RDean said, he lived in a time when homosexuals were largely forced to stay closeted. Given that few if any gays were able to openly express their sexual identity and openly form partnerships, share homes, etc., it wouldn’t be surprising if many of them were unhappy.

But that would be an unhappiness caused directly by people who insisted they stay out of sight and feel shame, and nothing to do with the actual homosexuality.

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