Learn it! Speak it! Live it!
Bring Christmas to a child in need!
Click to Print
Include Comments
Whirled Views 10.19
I’m ba-ack!…
Today’s movie quote: “You make me want to be a better man.”
Today's News | Christian Views
| Home | Community | WorldMagBlog | Commentary | Previous Posts | Podcasts | Contact Us | Subscribe |
CURRENT ISSUE
On our turf
Experts say the threat of domestic terrorism is growing
FULL STORY
feedWORLD on Twitter
An 'urgency': Sensing threats to institutions of society, church leaders make declaration
http://bit.ly/8pYXbH
About 12 hours ago
Bitter pill: GOP senators swallow hard as judicial nominee David Hamilton is confirmed
http://bit.ly/4I1l0v
About 13 hours agoFollow Us On Twitter >>
Just friends: Obama’s Asia agenda steered clear of any tough talk on human rights abuses
http://bit.ly/2zMnUi
About 1 day ago
All original content Copyright © 2009 WORLDmag.com and may not be reproduced without permission
back to top72 Comments to “Whirled Views 10.19”
Welcome ba-ack.
That quote could be something I say to Jesus today.
Report comment to moderator
Presumably a movie about someone coveting the rewards of gambling?
Report comment to moderator
Have combed through my mind. I don’t know it.
It’s vaguely familiar.
Report comment to moderator
As Good As It Gets!
Report comment to moderator
Really glad to have you back, Lynn. I missed you!
Report comment to moderator
This is rich. Anthony Bradley wrote a column on here making the dishonest and asinine claim that race relations among evangelicals haven’t changed much since 1958. He’s gotten a lot of flak for it, and rightly so, but he won’t answer his critics or defend his views here. But now he’s over on his blog talking about how poor pitiful him is being “attacked” over here on WOW. He links back to this article and then refers to us collectively as “the usual suspects”, whatever that means. He’s being “attacked” by “the usual suspects”? I never heard of this guy until a few weeks ago. Do a bunch of you folks who’ve commented here have a history of attacking, oops I mean disagreeing, with him on his blog?
I think this guy should probably lay off the Red Bull.
Here’s the link to Bradley’s article.
http://tinyurl.com/3b9×2o
Report comment to moderator
Yes, Janie. That’s right. I saw that movie!
Report comment to moderator
Yesterday and last night there was quite the heated conversation about the state of Alabama teaching the Bible as literature. Some comments were made about my state and I would like to defend her. Qwerty was especially ugly. Let me ask some of you who made these comments if you have ever been here. Perhaps kbells and I are the only Alabamians you have had any contact with. Do you think the two of us are backwoods and ignorant?
I have actually taken a literature course in college that was based on the Song of Solomon. It was a great class. We discussed the beauty of the words. We discussed the passion and a whole lot of other things but the professor, who was Catholic, did not beat us over the head with God. I would imagine there are just as many Christians, Atheists, and Agnostics in Alabama as there are in any other state. It is my impression that Michelle, Lynn, and a few others I can’t recall live in California. I believe these women to be Christians. How would you feel if I started making comments about where you live? California is filled with a bunch of nutjobs. Chicago is politically corrupt? New York is filled with a bunch of rude Yankees? Iowa is a great wasteland? Tennessee is just a bunch of hillbillies? It has been my experience in the travelling I have done is that people are pretty much like me no matter where I go. We are all more alike than we are different.
Huntsville is quite the forward city. If it weren’t for the scientists and Nasa’s installation in Huntsville we would have never made it into space. Birmingham has a history of racial strife, but is a very large city and is the home office of more than a few large corporations. Mobile is a fairly large port city. We have lots of natural resources. Mountains to the north and white sand beaches to the south. We host thousands of snow-birds every winter. If we were so backwoods and redneck I doubt a lot of people would come here. Don’t knock my state until you have at least been here and until you have met and talked to more of us.
Report comment to moderator
Kim,
While I agree with every word you say, the term “snowbird” may be lost on the same folks who were denigrating Alabama yesterday. They’re probably picturing cute little robins with a dusting of snow (that you rarely get) on their little wings!
For anyone who’s never heard the term, it refers to the northerners who journey southward to spend the winter in our warmer climes and then head back as soon as the azaleas bloom.
Report comment to moderator
Thank you for the support Cameron. I was especially frustrated last night because I couldn’t get logged in. If I can ever defend your state please let me know.
Report comment to moderator
Kim, I prefer that people like Qwerty, Luke & SteveG maintain their belief in the myth. That way they are less likely to come down here.
Report comment to moderator
Actually, Lynn and I are the only Christians in California . . .
I take your point, Kim, and understand your frustration.
Report comment to moderator
Generally kbells I prefer to let them live in blissful ignorance but this time I just couldn’t let them get away with it.
Now you will all have to excuse me whilst I go light the wood stove, skin the squirrels, start the grits and let loose the hounds, chopped the wood, and put lye soap in the outhouse.
Michelle, you and Lynn cannot be the only Christians in California-you both have families that I assume you have raised to be Christians as well.
Report comment to moderator
Hi Kim,
I’m sorry for your frustration. I hope you won’t lose heart and leave.
Your posts speak for themselves, as do kbells. You most definitely do not come across as ignorant or backwoods, at all.
I can’t speak for the style in which some people banter, but I hope we all remember that there is a person behind each post.
Now I’ll show my ignorance: I thought all the snowbirds came here, to Florida! I never really gave it much thought. It’s just that the population really swells here in November. Restaurants get crowded, traffic gets congested, the grocery stores become crowded and hard to navigate. It’s a lot harder to find parking, but, that’s Florida.
Report comment to moderator
It’s good for Qwerty, Luke and their ilk to stick around on this blog so we can remember to keep them in our prayers. Remember that Saul persecuted Christians as well — until God reached down and made him useful for the Kingdom!
Report comment to moderator
Thanks EYG. I don’t plan to go anywhere. I have to hang out and be the resident southern white trash. Everyone needs their stereotypes.
Report comment to moderator
Ahem, there are a few other Christians in the land of fruits and nuts.
In fact, some had the audacity to pray recently and it’s gotten them in trouble. A boy was seriously injured in a high school football game and the team had a bit of a prayer meeting for him before a game. It was not planned. It was not school sanctioned. What it was was spontaneous.
The Center of Applied Critical Thinking has thrown a flag on the field. Yaaawn, claiming of course this violates seperation of church and state. The school wisely claimed it was more freedom of expression.
When we lived in the OC a young man on our kids’ high school football team collapsed and died during practice. The boys father told the team his son would have wanted them to play in that Friday’s play-off game. For the next three days the school administration prowled the campus warning of the evils of spontaneous prayer. “It’s aganist the law.” At the play-off game the captain of the opposing LA County team (inner-city, mostly African-American and Hispanics) ran over to our sidelines and started yelling. “We know y’all are hurting. Where we come from we are not afraid to break the law. Then his team joined him, both teams got on their knees, both crowds got on their feet and recited the loudest “Our Father” I have ever heard. The Orange County principal was spitting nails, but the parents of the boy who had died were weeping.
Report comment to moderator
Today is Friday, which means tomorrow is College Football Saturday. Here are some important match-ups:
Tennessee @ Alabama – JP Sports @ 12:30 (Go Vols!)
Penn State @ Indiana – ESPN @ 12 noon
Iowa @ Perdue – ESPN2 @ 12 noon
Miami @ FL State – ABC @ 3:30
Florida @ Kentucky – CBS @ 3:30 (big game!)
Michigan State @ Ohio State – ESPN2 @ 3:30
S. Cal. @ Notre Dame – NBC @ 3:30
Kansas @ Colorado – ESPN @ 5:30
Michigan @ Illinois – ABC @ 8:00
Virginia @ Maryland – ESPN2 @ 8:00
Auburn @ LSU – ESPN @ 9:00
ESPN’s “College Game Day” will be in Lexington, Kentucky for the Florida/Kentucky game. It’s their first visit to Kentucky.
*****
The leaves have finally started to turn here in Georgia, though it’s not very pretty. As ya’ll know, we’re having a severe drought. I’m afraid we’re going to have one of those falls where the leaves just turn brown and fall off – it’s just been too dry all year.
Report comment to moderator
Hi Kim,
I understand that so well!! Believe me.
I’ve lived in almost every place you mentioned, plus I’ve lived abroad. Stereotypes serve an extremely limited purpose and are generally ridiculous.
People aren’t that different from one another. Of course, we all have our ways, and our cultures, but most of us care about the same things.
I’ve heard the Chicago gangster stuff, Colombian druglord stuff, the Southern stuff, the military stuff, the Japanese stuff. Etc. I could heartily defend everyplace I’ve ever lived! I wish everyone could have the opportunity to learn a new culture.
It helps one understand ones own culture and appreciate others. Whoever has a problem with diversity, might find the prospects of Heaven depressing. After all, God made his people and his creation diverse. No one place or people group can fully represent him.
Report comment to moderator
Good for them.
Report comment to moderator
What a beautiful story Adios. I’ll gladly defend your state as well.
Report comment to moderator
Post 20 was directed at Adios post at 17.
In other news….
There’s a certain eBay bid that’s now over 2 million dollars.
It’s a classic Rush Limbaugh move to. Shows just how opportunist and shallow some of our politicians on the left really are. This time it’s bit them on the butt! Take that Harry Reid and Hillary Clinton!
Report comment to moderator
OK Everyone look at the darling, adorable kitten that is beside my name. She is free today to a home, doesn’t have to be a good one. She has had me up since 5 am when she single pawedly caused the blind over my bedroom window to come crashing down. She gives new meaning to the term “curtain climber” as evidenced by the fact that one pair of my living room curtains is on the floor this morning. She also went in Chloe’s room and got a stuffed animal to drop in her wet food dish. I keep telling her curiosity killed the cat. Curiosity did get her nose burnt this morning when she decided to take a big ol’ sniff of my coffee. Do any of you know of a cat reform school I can pack her off to?
Report comment to moderator
2 million? Wow. I’m listening to Hannity and Colmes’ Rush interview. It was at 860,000 or so at the time of the interview.
Adios, That is an incredible story. Were you there? That’s just incredible!
Report comment to moderator
Okay, Adios lives here too. Thanks for sharing a moving account of other believers in our dark place.
On another note, I’ve read my final Anne Lamott book: Grace with some other drivel after it. If you want to know what Marin county aficionados are like, slug your way through this self-indulgent attempt to “not hate George W. Bush,” mess. Jesus is tossed in occasionally to give the Christians something to look for, otherwise this is a self-focused rambling about nothing. I like to be optimistic about people’s faith, but this woman doesn’t show many of the fruits of the spirit–well, maybe patience with her friends and occasional flashes of forgiveness.
Report comment to moderator
Janie wins! As Good As It Gets is correct. How will you spend your 10,000 digital dollars?…
$$$$
Report comment to moderator
EYG,
I was at the OC/LA play-off game. It was incredible.
Kim,
I think Ellen DeGeneres has cats. Maybe she’ll take yours. Apparently her hairdresser could use a pet too.
Anlir,
Huge USC fans here, but we are burning through O-lineman like cheap cigarettes. Mark Sanchez talked a fellow SC student who played football in high school to help the third stringers. SC put out an open call to the student body for any able bodied big boys to come and at least stand in the way of the Domer D. Oh how the might have fallen:(
Report comment to moderator
#11 I forgot to add. “God love ‘em. Bless their hearts.”
Great story, Adios.
Report comment to moderator
Kbells:LOL #28! Adios: loved your stories. They actually brought tears to my eyes. Kim: You will know them by their fruits. It is true that people are the same everywhere and no one place has a monopoly on intelligence etc. I read your comments far more than some you were speaking about. I’m sure others do too. I enjoyed being in your state last fall for a fiddle contest. We were visiting at my daughter’s in TN and drove down to Athens. We enjoyed the contest and people very much. The campus we were on was beautiful also as was the drive there and back. I am anxious to visit again.
Report comment to moderator
Thank you, Adios. That gives me hope.
Michelle, I agree with you about Lamott. I kept trying her books, and giving her room, but I see no real movement towards Christlikeness and the fruit of the Spirit.
Report comment to moderator
Learner,
Clarification, which gives you hope? High schoolers who pray or the soon demise of the SC O-line?;)
Report comment to moderator
Report comment to moderator
Yeah, that’s what I thought:)
Report comment to moderator
Kim Puhlease!
The proper saying is
“Los Angeles, the land of Nuts, Fruits, and Flakes!”
Tch, If you can’t say something right, don’t say anything at all.
Report comment to moderator
Apparently Callie wears herself out after a while. She is curled up in a basket on the window seat napping. I may spare her one more day.
Report comment to moderator
Kim,
Beware the cat that sleeps by day.
Report comment to moderator
Well, since Random was the only one to contribute a suggestion for my proposed benefit concert (to aid our Benevolent Dictator get a new modem), and his name is better than the obvious “Benefit for the Benevolent” that I thought of, he gets the cookies. (Besides, I don’t want certain females to think I only suggested the contest so I could get virtual cookies. Why do that when I can have the real thing?)
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (Chocolate drop cookies)
ChOChOChOChOChOChOChOChOChO (cookies with chocolate icing)
At the request of VS and EYG, here is the recipe for Mrs. L’s chocolate drop cookies.
1c brown sugar
1/2c shortening (she uses butter)
1 egg
1/2c milk
1 1/2c flour (she uses whole wheat)
1/2tsp baking powder
1/4tsp baking soda
2sq melted chocolate
1tsp vanilla
1/2c chopped nuts (optional)
Cream sugar and shortening. Add egg and beat well. Add milk alternately with sifted dry ingredients. Add chocolate and vanilla, mix well. Add nuts. Bake 10 – 12 minutes @ 350°. Frost with chocolate powdered sugar icing if desired.
Report comment to moderator
Now, since we seem not to need the concert anymore (unless our B.D. is still suffering at Starbuck’s), we’ll have it anyway (HT- The Office), if others are willing to participate. Let’s see, drill can entertain us with funny stories, Random can lip sync Bob Marley tunes. We have a few others who are musically talented, so if they are up to it, they can participate. It will hopefully be a “virtual” success and our B.D. can get her modem up and running.
Report comment to moderator
Anlir, since you’re so good at starting up new thread ideas, why not take a page from Random’s book. Post those key games each week and let folks take a shot at picking the winners. I am NOT encouraging gambling here! But it might be fun to see how well folks do. Perhaps you could even give an e-prize of some sort for doing so.
Report comment to moderator
PeterL, please don’t do that to me. I just now got rid of the cheesecake my husband bought me for my birthday.
Report comment to moderator
Hmmm. I was just sure that today’s quote was from Walk The Line. Oh well.
Report comment to moderator
TJ,
That’s a good idea. I’m thinking of a digital *prize* to give away to the winner. I can’t think of anything more American than a nice, warm, gooey S’more – hot off the campfire. Yum!
So, if can guess the winners of the following football games, you’ll win a *digital* S’more. You only have to guess who will win, not the actual score.
The tiebreaker will be the Tennessee game each week (versus whomever they’re playing), where you must guess the score and the winner. Whomever comes closet will win the tie.
Games for Saturday, Oct. 20th:
(pick the winning team)
Ohio State (7-0) vs Michigan State (5-2)
Oklahoma (6-1) vs Iowa State (1-6)
Kentucky (6-1) vs Florida (4-2)
Arizona State (7-0) vs California (5-1)
Oregon (5-1) vs Washington (2-4)
Tiebreaker:
(pick the winner and the score)
Tennessee (4-2) vs Alabama (5-2)
Good luck!
Report comment to moderator
I always vote for UCLA, so I’m a given every week.
Report comment to moderator
kbells- The cookies are for Random (surely he’ll let Random Granddaughter try one). The recipe is for those mentioned (and others who want it). No one is forcing you to make it.
Okay, Anlir. Here goes:
Ohio State (7-0) vs Michigan State (5-2) O State (home field advantage)
Oklahoma (6-1) vs Iowa State (1-6) OU (Duh! Iowa State can’t beat Oklahoma even in a good year!)
Kentucky (6-1) vs Florida (4-2) Kentucky (momentum)
Arizona State (7-0) vs California (5-1) ASU (As much as I, an Arizona fan, despise the Sun Devils, I dislike Cal even more.)
Oregon (5-1) vs Washington (2-4) Oregon (It’s a fOregon conclusion. Yes, you may groan at the pun.)
Tiebreaker:
Tennessee (4-2) vs Alabama (5-2)
Report comment to moderator
#44 Well, bless your heart, too.
Report comment to moderator
Cookies are in the oven and, as I trust Mrs L to be an excellent cookie baker, I am confident that if (and I do say “if” ) Peter L was able to copy the recipe correctly and was not blinded by some sort of chocolate sugar haze, I will very soon have some excellent comfort food to help me deal with the urine in the closet.
Report comment to moderator
Mrs L, You are a veritable genius in the kitchen, a baker extraordinaire, and Peter L, you copy well. You are now without excuse when you are caught stealing cookies with such an accomplished provider there at the house.
Report comment to moderator
Mumsee (and Cheryl D, too), I’ve been praying for you. May God continue to provide the strength and grace and humor you need!
Report comment to moderator
Games for Saturday, Oct. 20th:
(pick the winning team)
Ohio State (7-0) vs Michigan State (5-2)
Oklahoma (6-1) vs Iowa State (1-6)
Kentucky (6-1) vs Florida (4-2)
Arizona State (7-0) vs California (5-1)
Oregon (5-1) vs Washington (2-4)
Tiebreaker:
(pick the winner and the score)
Tennessee (4-2) vs Alabama (5-2)
Score 28-24
Report comment to moderator
Whoops, I meant to pick Oklahoma over Iowa State
I wish we could have the Preview back!
Report comment to moderator
BTW, Anlir, if I should happen to win, all I ask is that you read the Gospel of John once again.
Report comment to moderator
Mmacmurray,
Thank you, and please continue to pray as eldest took a serious downturn Tuesday. We are still trying to figure out what triggered it but he has entered his oppositional defiant label. We need wisdom from the One Who knows his heart better than he does.
Report comment to moderator
OK, Anlir, here are my picks:
Ohio State
Oklahoma
Florida
California
Oregon
Tie-Breaker: Alabama over Tennessee,24-21
Report comment to moderator
You picked Washington over Oregon, Outkast?
I would’ve thought you’d be opposed to using hallucinogenic drugs!
Report comment to moderator
With all the upsets of ranked teams these past three weeks, TRR, I’d say Washington might be the underdog of the week.
And if I lose, I don’t get a kiss from Anlir? Boo-hoo.
BTW, if shrooms were legal, I’m sure I’d enjoy them as much today as I did before I was saved. Those colors were amazing!!
Report comment to moderator
Mumsee – Why is there urine in the closet?
I once heard that often victims of sexual abuse “go to the bathroom” (#1 &/or #2) in inappropriate places. I hope that’s not the issue here.
(By “the issue”, I’m referring to what may have happened in their past, BTW, not their current living arrangement.)
Report comment to moderator
Oh Mumsee, I’m sorry it’s still so hard!
Our week has been up and down–some real breakthroughs, but one child still has seasons of disobedience when she refuses obedience continually no matter what I do, for ten minutes, thirty minutes, or an hour or more, losing privilege after privilege. But tonight she cheerfully cleaned up a mess she made, so we’re moving forward. And her sister is often able to keep from descending into full-fledged meltdowns, which is a huge one to me.
Tomorrow we’re going to try again to go to the zoo, even if it’s only a picnic lunch on the grounds and seeing one or two animals this time (which will probably be our best introduction, just a small one). But if I get defiance tomorrow, I won’t even try it, as I cannot take two kids into a very public place if one or both of them has to be carried back to the car!!
Anyway, Mumsee, I pray for your family every evening as I sit in the bedroom with my little ones.
Report comment to moderator
karen O,
It is estimated that around 85 percent of children in foster care have experienced that in their past. It is possible. It is also a response when one knows of no other way to vent rage/anger. It is also possible when one is sleep walking. We are working to figure it out. As Cheryl has mentioned before, some of the challenges are a bit different from what one might expect in the usual batch of children.
Cheryl,
We had hoped for a longer honeymoon period but it makes me optimistic that he is feeling comfortable enough to act out this early in the game. keep praying!
Report comment to moderator
Well, it’s 9:30, an hour after the kids’ bedtime, and so far both have spent more time out of bed than in. I took care of a potentially dangerous situation today (a glass ceiling light cover the kid in the top bunk had realized she could reach–it took seven stores, but I found a plastic one at a mobile-home supply store), but she was still kicking the bed hard to give herself bruises, hitting her head, threatening to jump out, etc., so we spent quite a bit of time in the hall, with me holding her arms, meaning she was hurting both of us rather than just herself. The other one simply didn’t want to stay in bed for no better reason than that she didn’t want to obey.
And no, we aren’t going to the zoo tomorrow. I need a pattern of obedience, not a pattern of dangerous disobedience, before such an outing. I’ve learned that from experience. If both kids are obeying me in the evening, we can go for a short walk. If both have disobeyed me in the previous couple hours, even if they seem to be obeying at the moment of the walk, taking them walking means having two children who may decide at any moment not to listen to me. Even on my low-traffic street, that’s too dangerous. And it’s also dangerous at a populated place like the zoo, where one could run from me and hide.
Hey, they’re finally quiet. One was crying–but she sounded like she’d worn herself out and would finally go to sleep–when I left them a few minutes ago. But at 9:42, they might finally both be asleep.
A prayer request, though for the kids’ privacy I’m not using names: One child in her rages repeatedly says that no one loves her. Sometimes she says no one but her mama loves her, sometimes she says no one does. We need the love of Christ to soak deep into this little girl’s heart, with me as His minister of healing. She is behind her younger sister academically, physically, even in size, and sometimes she simply feels worthless, useless, and unloved. In her good moods, she is the sweetest, most generous, most affectionate child you’d ever hope to meet, but she has a tender heart that has been badly hurt, and sometimes she simply cannot bear it.
Report comment to moderator
Peter L,
Thank you.
That’s very generous of you all.
Thank Mrs. L for us!
Report comment to moderator
OOOOO
COCOCOCO
Report comment to moderator
The virtual ones are great. I’ll make a real batch for my small group Sunday!
Report comment to moderator
Mumsee, Cheryl.
God love you. We’re still praying.
I am glad you have each other to truly understand.
God is amazing in his provisions.
Report comment to moderator
Peter L.
Can I have Mrs. L’s
frosting recipe as well?
Report comment to moderator
Adios,
What a phenomenal story.
Report comment to moderator
Well, I’m ready to go to bed! When I said 9:30 was an hour after the kids’ bedtime, I meant an hour and a half. They didn’t go to sleep till about 9:40, and about 9:55 I had someone pounding on my door, and my dog of course barked. I looked out to see flashing lights and my first thought was “police.”
It turns out it was the electric company wanting to know if I’ve been having any power problems. (I haven’t.) That’s the second time in my four years here that they’ve knocked on my door that late. Tennessee is a state with a lot of guns. Why on earth would anyone pound on someone’s door at 10:00 at night, and why would a company allow their representatives to do so? I was very, very glad the kids were asleep, as they would have come running out if they had been awake, and with the dog barking and the lights of the truck flashing enough to light up the whole street, they would have been scared and would have been wide awake for much longer.
Anyway, it’s my own bedtime now, or past, and I’m off to bed!
Report comment to moderator
Wow, Cheryl…bless your heart. Sending up prayers for you and Mumsee (and the kids). You guys sound like amazing parents.
Have you guys read “When Love is Not Enough”? I have 4 adopted children, and that was a big help. Don’t have it figured out, by far.
Report comment to moderator
EYG- I believe she just makes a regular white frosting and adds powdered chocolate to it.
Oh, and you’re all welcome.
Report comment to moderator
Thank you, Peter L.
I didn’t want to assume, because I know a little thing like that can change the flavor.
I have a bad cold (as I already posted several time!)
:-S
But, I hope to make the cookies today, if I have all the ingredients on hand. Couldn’t lift my head off the pillow until 10 am!
Report comment to moderator
Oops. I am sorry to report that I improvised quite a bit on the cookies. They may not have been recognizable at the L home. Were they supposed to be cakey?
Report comment to moderator
mumsee, yes indeed! The cookies are usually about 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick when Mrs L or the L girls make them.
Report comment to moderator
Cherise…
…
Report comment to moderator
back to topJoin The Conversation
You need to be a registered user of WORLDonTheWeb.com to "join the conversation."
If you are not a member yet, what are you waiting for? Register / Login Now!