Comments on: Church-o-ween: Would Jesus go to fall festival? http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:28:53 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230683 Victoria Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:36:05 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230683 Why would anyone want their children to EMULATE EVIL, as in Halloween, it's just not that hard to understand, or maybe it is? Why would anyone want their children to EMULATE EVIL, as in Halloween, it’s just not that hard to understand, or maybe it is?

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]]> By: VS http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230677 VS Fri, 26 Oct 2007 02:20:37 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230677 That's a cute idea Travis. I'd do it if I wasn't so tech challenged! As it is my son loaded my avatar for me. Now, now, no jealousy! Very unbecoming! :-) That’s a cute idea Travis. I’d do it if I wasn’t so tech challenged! As it is my son loaded my avatar for me.

Now, now, no jealousy! Very unbecoming! :-)

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]]> By: Travis Birkenstock http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230659 Travis Birkenstock Fri, 26 Oct 2007 00:28:59 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230659 My gravatar is going to dress up for Halloween. I'm still deciding what to be. Anyone care to join me for the first annual WMB gravatar Halloween costume contest? I know your thinking - "That's a dumb idea, Travis". But I'm sure if Anlir had thought if it, this would be a full movement, with digital prizes even. Darn that Anlir (he said to himself with the Seinfeld "Neuman" voice). He's too, popular. :-) My gravatar is going to dress up for Halloween. I’m still deciding what to be.

Anyone care to join me for the first annual WMB gravatar Halloween costume contest?

I know your thinking – “That’s a dumb idea, Travis”.

But I’m sure if Anlir had thought if it, this would be a full movement, with digital prizes even. Darn that Anlir (he said to himself with the Seinfeld “Neuman” voice). He’s too, popular.

:-)

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]]> By: rjm http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230485 rjm Thu, 25 Oct 2007 17:58:37 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230485 It seems like a selfish holiday to me, with kids marching around the neighborhood begging/demanding candy. During other holidays, I can try and "redeem" the season by teaching my children to focus on Christ and not themselves; however, I find nothing about halloween worth redeeming. It seems like a selfish holiday to me, with kids marching around the neighborhood begging/demanding candy. During other holidays, I can try and “redeem” the season by teaching my children to focus on Christ and not themselves; however, I find nothing about halloween worth redeeming.

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]]> By: bookwormans http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230459 bookwormans Thu, 25 Oct 2007 16:39:26 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230459 ROYCLAY, Here is what Wikipedia had to say about the origins of Halloween: "The modern holiday of Halloween has its origins in the ancient Gaelic festival known as Samhain (pronounced /ˈsˠaunʲ/ from the Old Irish samain). The Festival of Samhain is a celebration of the end of the harvest season in Gaelic culture, and is regarded as 'The Celtic New Year'.[2] Traditionally, the festival was a time used by the ancient pagans to take stock of supplies and slaughter livestock for winter stores. The Ancient Gaels believed that on October 31, the boundaries between the worlds of the living and the dead overlapped and the deceased would come back to life and cause havoc such as sickness or damaged crops. The festivals would frequently involve bonfires, where the bones of slaughtered livestock were thrown. Costumes and masks were also worn at the festivals in an attempt to mimic the evil spirits or placate them.[3][4] When the Romans occupied Celtic territory, several Roman traditions were also incorporated into the festivals. Feralia, a day celebrated in late October by the Romans for the passing of the dead as well as a festival which celebrated the Roman Goddess Pomona, the goddess of fruit were incorporated into the celebrations. The symbol of Pomona was an apple, which is a proposed origin for the tradition of bobbing for apples on Halloween.[5]" You can say that this is a Christian holiday, but everything that is associated with it (jack-o-lanterns, trick-or-treat, dressing up, etc.) is directly derived from the pagan festival of Samhain. Even Wikipedia (a non-religious website)says this. And even when Christians celebrate Halloween, the majority of them aren't focused on the lives of the Saints, but on the trappings of A PURELY SATANIC HOLIDAY. See it on Wikipedia at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween ROYCLAY,

Here is what Wikipedia had to say about the origins of Halloween:

“The modern holiday of Halloween has its origins in the ancient Gaelic festival known as Samhain (pronounced /ˈsˠaunʲ/ from the Old Irish samain). The Festival of Samhain is a celebration of the end of the harvest season in Gaelic culture, and is regarded as ‘The Celtic New Year’.[2] Traditionally, the festival was a time used by the ancient pagans to take stock of supplies and slaughter livestock for winter stores. The Ancient Gaels believed that on October 31, the boundaries between the worlds of the living and the dead overlapped and the deceased would come back to life and cause havoc such as sickness or damaged crops. The festivals would frequently involve bonfires, where the bones of slaughtered livestock were thrown. Costumes and masks were also worn at the festivals in an attempt to mimic the evil spirits or placate them.[3][4] When the Romans occupied Celtic territory, several Roman traditions were also incorporated into the festivals. Feralia, a day celebrated in late October by the Romans for the passing of the dead as well as a festival which celebrated the Roman Goddess Pomona, the goddess of fruit were incorporated into the celebrations. The symbol of Pomona was an apple, which is a proposed origin for the tradition of bobbing for apples on Halloween.[5]”

You can say that this is a Christian holiday, but everything that is associated with it (jack-o-lanterns, trick-or-treat, dressing up, etc.) is directly derived from the pagan festival of Samhain. Even Wikipedia (a non-religious website)says this. And even when Christians celebrate Halloween, the majority of them aren’t focused on the lives of the Saints, but on the trappings of A PURELY SATANIC HOLIDAY.

See it on Wikipedia at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halloween

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]]> By: royclay http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230380 royclay Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:01:51 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230380 Bookwormans says: <i>If we shouldn’t use violent video games, then why should we use <b>a holiday that is purely Satanic</b> (even if you are dressed up as an angel and not a devil)? </i> The problem with that view is, that Halloween is <b>not</b> a Satanic holiday, but rather one with Christian roots. It is a contraction of All Hallows' Eve, the evening before All Hallows' (or All Saints') Day, on November 1st, a <b>Christian</b> Holy Day. Bookwormans says:

If we shouldn’t use violent video games, then why should we use a holiday that is purely Satanic (even if you are dressed up as an angel and not a devil)?

The problem with that view is, that Halloween is not a Satanic holiday, but rather one with Christian roots. It is a contraction of All Hallows’ Eve, the evening before All Hallows’ (or All Saints’) Day, on November 1st, a Christian Holy Day.

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]]> By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230309 Victoria Thu, 25 Oct 2007 04:08:53 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230309 JOANNEB It's a shame that more parents don't understand the harm they are doing, by letting their children believe things which are FALSE, which have nothing to do with our Saviors Birth, or Resurrection - JOANNEB

It’s a shame that more parents don’t understand the harm they are doing, by letting their children believe things which are FALSE, which have nothing to do with our Saviors Birth, or Resurrection -

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]]> By: joanneb http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230242 joanneb Thu, 25 Oct 2007 01:07:26 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230242 My children have never celebrated pagan festivals. No Halloween, Santa or Easter Bunny at our house. There are no other children in our neighbourhood, ours are the only ones. When I can, I drive them to the nearest town where children are doing Halloween and we hand out little Bible comics. Our children love doing this, and the children getting the tracts seem to be very appreciative too. My children have never celebrated pagan festivals. No Halloween, Santa or Easter Bunny at our house. There are no other children in our neighbourhood, ours are the only ones. When I can, I drive them to the nearest town where children are doing Halloween and we hand out little Bible comics. Our children love doing this, and the children getting the tracts seem to be very appreciative too.

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]]> By: tigerblogger http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230125 tigerblogger Wed, 24 Oct 2007 20:40:59 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230125 Totally agree. Jesus did not call us to retreat to our safe sanctuaries. He called us to enter the world, confront evil and love people in His name and leave the protection and the provision up to Him. Happy Halloween! Totally agree. Jesus did not call us to retreat to our safe sanctuaries. He called us to enter the world, confront evil and love people in His name and leave the protection and the provision up to Him.

Happy Halloween!

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]]> By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/comment-page-1/#comment-230080 Victoria Wed, 24 Oct 2007 19:29:29 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/10/23/church-o-ween-would-jesus-go-to-fall-festival/#comment-230080 Unbeknownst to me, there was a man who was having a conversation with a woman on the phone as I sat at his desk, waiting to speak with him. I overheard part of the discussion as he began to disagree about what they were going to wear on Halloween. As the conversation progressed, it was obvious that it went much further than just a Halloween party, it was a ceremony, etc., of which they would take part. While waiting for him to get off the phone, I noticed a book on the edge of the desk, it was a Satanic book. I was surprised that he had no qualms about leaving it there, OR talking endlessly on the phone about the 'satanic' event. It turns out, she was a 'witch' and he was a 'warlock' - Those who practice witchcraft, who are in the Occult are delighted that anyone who is a Believer, will join in the so called fun and entertainment of the night they love. We have kids who see nothing wrong with "Harry Potter" books, mainly because their parents OK reading books which promote 'witchcraft' 'wizard's' and all the evil connected with these practices. Born Again Christians are lulled into the idea that their kids won't really be touched by evil, if for only a few books, and evening on Halloween, ....... The Occult is real, it isn't a game, or a one night stand. <b>Why would Christian parents allow their children to EMULATE EVIL? </b> Unbeknownst to me, there was a man who was having a conversation with a woman on the phone as I sat at his desk, waiting to speak with him. I overheard part of the discussion as he began to disagree about what they were going to wear on Halloween. As the conversation progressed, it was obvious that it went much further than just a Halloween party, it was a ceremony, etc., of which they would take part. While waiting for him to get off the phone, I noticed a book on the edge of the desk, it was a Satanic book. I was surprised that he had no qualms about leaving it there, OR talking endlessly on the phone about the ’satanic’ event. It turns out, she was a ‘witch’ and he was a ‘warlock’ –

Those who practice witchcraft, who are in the Occult are delighted that anyone who is a Believer, will join in the so called fun and entertainment of the night they love. We have kids who see nothing wrong with “Harry Potter” books, mainly because their parents OK reading books which promote ‘witchcraft’ ‘wizard’s’ and all the evil connected with these practices. Born Again Christians are lulled into the idea that their kids won’t really be touched by evil, if for only a few books, and evening on Halloween, ……. The Occult is real, it isn’t a game, or a one night stand.

Why would Christian parents allow their children to EMULATE EVIL?

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