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Folger’s Crystals? Can you drink that stuff? I guess I’m more spoiled than I thought!
Tombstone!
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“We need more Folgers Crystals, Captain!”
I thought that was the movie quote for a minute and was racking my brain for Navy movies. I almost guessed “Down Periscope”.
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As usual, I ignore the opening quote, which is probably tacky of me, if not worse. As sometimes, my tacky post may have some relevance to it.
I was thinking about the differences between Christianity and Communism.
Each promises a future that never arrives. Under Communism, it typically takes a hundred years or so until people notice. Advantage: Christianity.
Each has tortured and killed many people under the excuse of saving them. However, Communism used the methods of modern technology and mass production to better effect. Advantage: Communism.
Each has split into major and minor denominations and wacko cults.
Christianity has had Catholicism and Protestantism and Eastern Orthodox and evangelicals and Seventh Day Adventists and Jehovah’s Witnesses and even David Koresh. For that matter, the Mormons claim to be Christians of sorts.
Communism has had the Soviet Union and China and Cuba and Cambodia and Trotskyites and even the God-King state of North Korea. Advantage: I fail to see any.
Each has at times split off into moderate more or less toothless versions that at worst may not do much more than gum you to death.
Christianity for example produced liberal Anglicans and Episcopalians and Unitarians.
Communism produced “democratic socialism” and welfare state democracies such as the Netherlands and Scandinavia. Advantage: zzzz…snore…what were we talking about?
Your mileage will surely vary. Watch out for tread marks. It’s better to leave them than to display them.
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Yeah, I was almost gummed to death by a bunch of Unitarians in the seventies. I won’t go into details. I did get away, though.
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I was pretty sure the quote wasn’t from any of the Beatles movies.
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What about the Moonies? I mowed one down that stepped in my way as I ran with family and luggage for the next flight leaving in 10 minutes clear across the other side of an airport… I didn’t get a flower; I wonder if I was converted?
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Janie wins! Tombstone is correct. Meet your new digital puppy!
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(And I don’t drink Folgers…just needed some coffee with “crystals” in it, so that I could pretend to be Scotty.)
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That’s funny, Janie. My wife and I were married in a Unitarian church. My wife’s mother wanted a church wedding. That was the least church-like church I could think of.
Three years later, my brother married his first wife in the same church. Our two-year-old daughter toddled around during the wedding, grabbed flowers from the flower girl, and babbled happily during the service. My wife and I were embarrassed and about to remove her, but the minister said he loved children at weddings and told us to relax.
My brother and his wife dealt with the toddler at their wedding fine, but their marriage did not last.
Unitarian weddings: 1 for 2 so far.
My wife’s best friend goes to a Unitarian church, so when my wife visits her in Portland, she goes along to be sociable. Otherwise, we don’t go to church very often; mostly, it’s been to attend a wedding. A couple weddings have been at evangelical churches. Not enough church to snare this fish, I’m afraid.
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#6
Sounds like he was converted to road kill.
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Thanks, Lynn! I wonder how he’ll get along with my other two dogs? One is very old but still tries to be a “mommie” when a puppy shows up. The other is a half crazy 1-yr old cockapoo rescue.
Anyway, he is very cute. It will be interesting to see how “digital” and “live” interact.
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P.S. I’m really glad they don’t make you drink Folger’s Crystals at work!
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#8 Unitarian weddings: 1 for 2 so far.
That’s about average for any church isn’t it?
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I went to a church where we were fortunate to have the owner of Primo coffee as an elder. Needless to say we had FAB coffee at the 1st Evangelical Free in Austin Texas (fefc dot org)
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My wife and I were married in a Unitarian church. My wife’s mother wanted a church wedding. That was the least church-like church I could think of.
Yes, a good analysis. Unitarianism (actually Unitarian Universalism) is church for those folks who really don’t care about the “troubling” aspects of church (like actually having to admit that you believe in something specific). And, as a bonus, it really doesn’t matter if you attend or not (or even believe or not), since all dogs go to heaven.
I’m surprised we don’t get more political candidates picking the U.U. as their church d’jour.
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To change the topic to something really thought provoking:
As you may have read, a Navy SEAL was killed in a shoot out with Taliban. He and his SEAL team were compromised when some Afghan goat herders spotted them. They let the herdsmen go.
That turned out to be a fatal mistake for Lt Murphy and his men.
The herdsmen relayed the SEAL team’s location to Taliban. Several hundred Taliban converged and the rest in described in the CMH citation.
There is a concept called “unit closure”. It says that the SEALs should have killed all the herdsmen. (No, I dont have a number) But they chose to spare innocent men who later betrayed them. By not following the unit closure rule, Lt Murphy showed to the Taliban that we arent wanton murderers, but as in all situations basic fundamental decency on Murphy’s part came at a high cost.
God bless that Navy SEAL and those who died with him.
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I think Unitarian Universalists are simply atheists who lack the cajones to out themselves for what they actually are and believe.
And I believe we did have a Unitarian prez. (One of the fat Republican men between Grant and Woodrow Wilson) He openly admitted to not believing in the trinity.
Being a Unitarian Universalist means you can never be excommunicated for heresy.
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Concerning Folgers: When we first moved to Louisville so that I could pastor our current church, the congregation (wonderful people) surprised us by stocking our pantry (we didn’t have to worry about most groceries that first month here). Someone gave a canister of Folgers. I wasn’t too optimistic (I like to grind my coffee every morning, and I’ve developed a taste for African coffees — Kenyan and Ethiopian are highly recommended if you like bold taste without the bitterness of some South American coffees). Anyway, I had discovered a hidden treasure a month or so prior: Coffeemate makes nice flavored creamers. My wife and I had stayed in a Bed and Breakfast, where the only coffee in the room was Maxwell House (even Folgers is far superior). However, with a generous amount of Blueberry Cobbler creamer (and you need to get the actual cream, not the powdered stuff), even Maxwell House tasted like a $3 cup of coffee! That first month with Folger crystals and Blueberry Cobbler creamer was quite enjoyable!
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Being a Unitarian Universalist means you can never be excommunicated for heresy.
Actually, couldn’t you be excommunicated for confessing that you were Trinitarian?
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To change the topic again, does anyone have a thought on Vatican 2 beyond what I can read in Wikipedia?
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TJ, I believe Sawgunner is correct. It was decades ago, but I once visited a Unitarian church just for the experience. I stayed for the coffee reception afterward and talked with a guy.
Admittedly, this is a one time, one person experience, but:
He said that there were a variety of beliefs in the congregation. Some approaching athiesm, some almost trinitarian (he believed in God, himself). I asked him if another organization, such as a college fraternity (We were both young then.) could replace the church in his allegiance. He said, “Yes, depending on the purpose.” I didn’t pursue that any farther.
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Chas, I was mostly kidding. Of course, belief in “God” does not necessarily mean that one is Trinitarian (Muslims or Mormons, for example). You mention that some were “approaching atheism.” I wonder if UU churches would actually say that someone who became a full-blown atheist (for lack of a better term) would then have wandered outside the bounds of the church (i.e., he/she would no longer be acceptable as a member of the church — this would be a completely different matter from being welcome in the church, which I would hope would still be the case). If membership vows and such could be relaxed to such an extent, then it would seem that “membership” wouldn’t really mean a whole lot, imo.
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Not to change the topic again but I guess I am…
Paul Tibbets died. He flew the plane that dropped the bombs on Japan and brought WWII to a clearly defined close (a few days later Japanese govt officials were on the deck of the Missouri signing the “instrument of surrender” and MacArthur exulted with a loud and thunderous “Mission Accomplished!”)
Okay, so I made that last part up.
Anywho.. the 6 November Opinionjournal dot comm has a great op-ed about all the HORRORS the second world war unleashed. Asphalt streets melting and engulfing those who were attempting to escape from bombed cities. Bomb shelters turning into ovens and cooking those who’d fled to them for safety.
The image of 75,000 kids under aged 14 being incinerated just won’t leave my mind.
Yes, those folks who were burnt up were the enemy. But the article examines the belief that many have that in our current wars we are somehow at risk of “sinking to the same level as our enemies”.
Quite laughable when you compare the massive loss of noncombatant life in WWII compared to Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Did Paul Tibbets get much mention in the MSM back there in the USA??
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TJ;
Judging from the UU church I escaped from in the seventies, no one would actually care what you did or did not believe about God. (Maybe other UU churches are different.) But they would care if you expressed any un-PC sentiments or conservative (ie non-compassionate) ideas.
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Q: What do you get when you cross a Jehovah’s Witness with a Unitarian?
A: Somebody who knocks on your door for no particular reason.
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Frank, I actually laughed at that.
Sawgunner: You might be interested in a made for TV movie the History Channel shows occasionally. It’s The Last Mission, about the last, and longest B-29 raid on Japan. It’s two stories which appear not to affect each other, but had a profound influence on the outcome of the war.
I found it fascinating.
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So what do you get when you cross a Universalist/Unitarian with a Jehovah’s Witness?
Someone who knocks on your door but doesn’t know why.
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Re: UU
My uncle, who died this spring, was a UU Sunday School teacher (for some thirty years). I asked him once what they taught. He said that since they taught preschool age (he and his wife team taught), it was pretty basic, but they primarily wanted the children to learn about the world (i.e. nature) and to be curious about it and want to take care of it, and to accept and love people who are different, whether in appearance or beliefs or language or whatever.
I am told that the church was packed at his funeral (which I couldn’t get to because I didn’t have the time/money to fly out there).
I carpooled with a woman in Michigan for a while, who attended a UU church. She went there primarily for the music (they had an excellent organist), and for the thoughtful messages about life that the minister gave.
TJ,
My understanding is that a full-blown atheist would be welcome as a member. He would not be welcome to try to tell other members that they are foolish to believe in God, however. A Trinitarian Christian would likewise be welcome, but not to try to push his views.
Somewhere I have a coloring book I kept from my visit to my uncle’s church when I was a little girl. It had a “golf course” in which you closed your eyes, put down the pencil, and tried to get to the hole without looking. Going outside the lines was fine, as was coloring everyday objects any color you pleased. I seem to remember they specifically suggested coloring people (standing outside the UU church) “wondering” or “uncertain.” As a child I found it just plain fun, although somewhat puzzling. As an adult I realized that that is their metaphor for life.
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Since the editors of Worldmag are apparently obeying Gen. Musharraf’s order on the news black-out on Pakistan, here is the latest:
Gen. Musharraf imposed Martial Law because the Supreme Court was within days of ruling that he is ineligible to run for President.
The lawyers have turned out to protest the suspension of the Constitution. At least 500 of them have been arrested.
Over 70% of the judges in Pakistan have resigned. Only 5 of the 20 Supreme Court justices have accepted Gen. Musharraf’s military rule. The rest have been arrested and deposed of their position.
The opposition leaders as well as the leaders of human rights and pro-democracy organizations are being rounded up and arrested.
The parliament elections scheduled for January have been suspended for 2 or 3 years, possibly longer.
While the Bush administration continues to dither, Pakistan has told Bush to keep his mouth shut or they will stop helping us in the war. They have us over a barrel and they know it. The Bush administration responded that we will continue to give them money and will not interfere in their internal affairs.
Isn’t it wonderful to see our President cowering before Gen. Musharraf?
Isn’t it great that we gave over $11 billion dollars of our tax money to Pakistan? Look what it bought us – another two-bit dictator. How nice!
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LOL, Frank.
My family attended a UU church when we moved out of state. It was purely for social reasons. I recall the cookies and punch.
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Hamachi,
Hopefully you’re reading this. We do know that for some reason your comments are getting held up in the spam folder and we have to go in manually to retrieve them–that’s why it takes a little bit for them to appear. We’re working on it, and hope it will be resolved soon. (And for some reason Lynn didn’t get your emails, which is why she didn’t reply.)
Thanks for your patience!
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Kristin:
You have to go in manually? All kinds of images came to mind with that one. Do you just feel around in the folder? And, if so, how do you tell the difference between spam and good posts by feel? Or do you open the folder and look at everything in it, and pull out everything that has Hamachi’s signature? Or shake the whole thing and let the chaff fall out while real notes stay whole? Any of those means seems more physical than I’m used to in today’s digital age.
I just hope you remember to wash your hands afterward, and rinse off Hamachi’s posts before you put them up, if you need to. I’d hate to find pieces of spam still sticking to the edges.
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Anlir,
I’ve also been wondering why we’re not seeing any news of that Pakistani violence here on WMB.
There was something else that I’m not remembering though….
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#32 “I just hope you remember to wash your hands afterward, and rinse off Hamachi’s posts before you put them up, if you need to. I’d hate to find pieces of spam still sticking to the edges.”
LOL. I’d be more worried about having touched his avatar – I was always taught to wash my hands after touching raw fish.
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spam and hamachi. Byjove, I think you just invented a new sushi roll combo! The Whirled roll? Served with extra wasabi.
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From the site http://www.famousuus.com
Who were some famous
Unitarian Universalists?
In American politics:
Abigail Adams*
John Adams*
John Quincy Adams
Ethan Allen
Chester Bliss Bowles
Harold Hitz Burton
John C. Calhoun
Joseph S. Clark
William S. Cohen
Paul H. Douglas
Emily Taft Douglas
Thomas H. Eliot
Edward Everett
Millard Fillmore*
Benjamin Franklin*
Horace Greeley*
Hannibal Hamlin
Thomas Jefferson*
Edward S. Mason
Wade McCree
Maurine Neuberger
Lucius Paige (1802-1896)
Thomas Paine
William J. Perry
Paul Revere*
Josiah Quincy (1722-1864)
Elliot L. Richardson
Leverett Saltonstall
Francis George Shaw
Col. Robert Gould Shaw
Adlai Stevenson (1900-1965)*
William Howard Taft*
Daniel Webster*
Over at http://www.adherents.com/adh_presidents.html
they list,
John Adams
John Quincy Adams
Millard Fillmore
William Howard Taft
As UU Presidents, and note that Jefferson’s basic beliefs were Unitarian.
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I should note that I have several friends who were UU, and that my best friend was married (4 days after 9/11, no less!) at a UU church. (He wasn’t UU, but wanted a “church wedding.” I was asked to do a reading from the New Testament at the ceremony.
Our monthly contradances are also held at that Church, one of the most beautiful in Buffalo. Millard Fillmore was a founding member.
I’ve always liked UU people, even though their beliefs seem like “Christianity Lite”. And they are very eager to cite the list of “Famous UUs”
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Thank you, Kristin. It’s okay. I haven’t had many witty comments to add lately. Maybe this is a sign from God that I should be peddling Viagra and penny stocks here on the blog.
Cheryl, have you ever been to a spam carving contest?
http://www.crunchyfrog.com/spamCarve.htm
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A spamachi roll, Travis? ick. Spam is popular in Hawaii, served as sushi no less. I’ll stick with the more traditional sushi, thanks!
http://www.viamagazine.com/top_stories/articles/hawaiian_food05.asp
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Anlir,
Thanks for the update on the situation in Pakistan. It’s a shame what President Bush’s “good friend” is doing. (Between Putin and Musharraf, Bush seems to be a lousy judge of character.) Some people say it could never happen here. If it’s going to, it will be next year about this time.
Here is an ironic statement by White House talking bobble-head Dana Perino.
Q: Is it ever reasonable to restrict constitutional freedoms in the name of fighting terrorism?
MS. PERINO: In our opinion, no.
Video is here:
http://www.crooksandliars.com/
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Janie, Pauline, thanks for the responses.
Ken, that joke was just TOO funny!
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Frank, that was LOL funny.
Is that the forst time you’ve told a joke on WMB?
Forgive me if the answer is no.
That was funny.
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first – not forst.
Preview…..pleeeeeease?
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Pssst! Pakistan is run by a dictator with WMD!
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Sawgunner,
WH Press Spokesperson Dana Perino today said we should NOT call Musharraf a dictator. As usual in Bushland, up is down, white is black, and dictators are not to be called dictators. Especially when they are dictating on our dime.
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Another reason to remember November 5. This is big news around here.
I have met Rick Hardy, when he ran for congress in Missouri. He knows his politics! I just hope the mock election results do not turn out to be the actual results this year. I think the main reason Sen. Obama won is because he is from Illinois, and a lot of the students at Western Illinois are from the Chicago area, where Sen. Obama calls home.
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BTW- the story above came from the local NBC affiliate, WGEM-TV (wgem.com).
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Re: #44 (Sawgunner)
Indeed. Another reason we should be paying attention the what’s happening in Pakistan. Supposedly the detonators, the nukes, and the launchers are in different locations, but no one knows for certain.
Gol-dang-it – why is that the United States always seems to end up on the wrong side of things? Whether Republicans or Democrats are in the White House, we seem to have this knack for backing the wrong horse in the race.
We’ve backed more rulers that seem to end up getting overthrown, usually by their own people. We claim to be in favor of freedom and democracy, but then we end up backing (or worse, setting up) men who end up being ruthless, corrupt dictators. Then the people of that country end up hating the United States.
Will we ever learn?
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Sawgunner, Yes I saw on the news that Colonel Tibbets died. A funny story…my dad worked with a retired Lt Col that I will just call Tiger. Most of my life I grew up thinking that Tiger flew a decoy plane over Hiroshima when the bomb was dropped. Many years later, Tiger had one too many and confessed that he was teasing me, hell he was a couple of thousand miles out in the Pacific asleep when it happened. Later I learned it was one of the most secret missions. I wonder if he ever had nightmares or if he did his duty because it was his duty. Anyway a true American Hero passed away in my opinion.
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Here’s another story hot off the wires:
The Pentagon wants to lower the standards yet again in order to meet the recruiting goals for the military. They’re getting desperate for people to sign up.
Last year, 3 of every 10 recruits had to get a waiver for either a criminal background or for medical reasons. 69% of the conduct waivers for the marines was for drug use. Isn’t that nice?
In short, we’re scraping the bottom of the barrel to find people willing to serve in the military.
It could have something to do with that little war in Iraq – I don’t know.
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Question: how does one send email to Lynn, to WMB? I could not find this information anywhere. Apologies for breaking the flow of conversation.
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Question: Is the Worldmagblog run from a mainfraim in the Atlantic time zone? (I think that’s what it is.) Travis’s post is at 4:49 and I can’t think of a place west of Nova Scotia where that could be.
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I figured it out. 5:05 was 4:05 EST. That means it’s Eastern, but not adjusted.
TB: I sent my bio to Lynn at
worldblog@gmail.com
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Anlir:
That might be more innocent than it sounds. I’ve heard, for instance, that people who’ve taken Ritalin (prescribed) aren’t eligible for military service.
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Cheryl D.,
The waivers were for drug convictions, drug abuse, and minor crimes (assault, drunk driving, etc.). Use of a prescription like Ritalin would fall under the “medical” waiver. Either way, the military is desperate.
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Travis,
I could give you Lynn’s e-mail address, but then I’d have to kill ya
Send e-mail to her at: worldblog@gmail.com
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In regards to the time on here, I’ve never paid any attention to it before. It looks like it is Atlantic Time. I bet the worldmag server is located on a tropical island off the Florida coast. I bet Lynn and friends are sitting on the cabana right now, enjoying the ocean breeze!
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Michelle, post 19, having worked for conservative Catholics for many years I have heard nearly all the thoughts on Vatican II. But not being Catholic I really don’t have any of my own. Is there anything in particular you want to know?
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“Send e-mail to her at: worldblog@gmail.com”
Anlir, I used that one and her personal aol account too… Neither worked for me.
I miss the old blog.
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Chas, I believe the site is hosted out of the lobbyist capital–Virginia.
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Just an update.
I still can’t post comments in real time. And whoever was digging through the canned meat folder has stopped doing it for some time now.
Oh well.
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This is a test. Does this login work like it’s supposed to?
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Sweet! I should have copied all my comments that didn’t appear using my original Hamachi login.
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…and a new Gravatar is on the way. Hurry up and wait on that one…
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More news on Pakistan:
Although Pakistan is supposed to be our biggest ally in the war on terrorism, Bush has not seen fit to call Gen. Musharraf since he imposed Martial Law.
Bush is cowering because he knows what Gen. Musharraf is going to tell him: “We have your country by the b…s. Either keep your mouth shut or we’ll stop helping America.”
Another fine mess Bush has gotten us into. Oh well, maybe it will keep him so occupied that he’ll have to forget about taking us to war in Iran.
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Is “Hamachitwo” anything like “Terminator 2″? If so, I’m scared!!!
“I swear: I will not kill anyone.”
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I swear,
A-Gravatar should be renamed.
I changed my avatar two days ago….
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Arrrggggh! I hope this writer’s strike is settled soon! I miss “The Daily Show” and “The Colbert Report”! I want my Comedy Central!!
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A dictator with WMD — a sure bet the US won’t do anything. Now if they were only pretended to have WMD, they would be there in a minute.
My daughter went to a unitatarian sunday school two or three times with a friend whose parents were members. My daughter found it confusing and my wife thought there was no discipline. She went back to the Anglican Sunday School.
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TJ, I don’t think I’ve seen Terminator 2. Not a big Arnode fan… I think you’ll find HamachiTwo very similar to Hamachi. If you liked him, you’ll like me. If you didn’t, you should!
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Great, if I call you H2, then I have images of a huge SUV in my head.
I did like your old gravitar, though.
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HRW, I’m embarrassed to admit you’re right.
Hey, and we’re going to Canada in a few days. How cool is that. Maybe I’ll run into you. Buy ya a beer, eh! Wait, American dollars are worth less than your dollars now. Maybe we split a beer, eh?
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Thanks TJ, I have a new gravatar on its way that I believe you’ll like just as much. Oh, and please don’t force me to go to HamachiOneThousand; H2’s are about the silliest accessory ever developed for insecure soccer moms.
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Larry King pointed out to Bill Cosby that Clarence Thomas also believes that African-Americans should do more to help themselves.
Cosby responded by falsely claiming that Justice Thomas is not for helping other people. Cosby repeated this falsehood over and over.
I have been reading Justice Thomas’ book lately and he was deeply driven by the desire to help people, especially minorities.
Unfortunately, what too many partisans presume is that liberals are for helping people and conservatives are against helping people. That is simplistic and false to the core. BOTH sides, at their best, are for helping people. They just believe in getting there in different ways. One side wants to empower the public sector to help people and the other side prefers to empower the private sector to help people.
The Bill Cosby dived face first into the moral gutter. He called Justice Thomas “a brother lite.” In other words, he is less of a “brother” and presumably less authentically “black” just because Thomas’ ideology does not fit Cosby’s terms for “brotherhood.”
I was sorely disappointed with Cosby.
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Joel Mark, I think Bill Cosby has to toss out occasional tripe such as what you and I heard him uttering on the “Larry King Alive” show. Cos still has a lot of credibility among older Americans of all races. I recall lots of criticism over his husband wife characters on his show. It amounted to “Oh yeah like you’ll ever find a power couple like the Huxtables: physician Dad, attorney Mom.” Because it was other blacks making those remarks no one dared call them racist, prejudiced etc (I liked the show, personally. Perhaps lots of youngsters were inspired to study and sacrifice to achieve higher ed in those and other professions).
I saw a clip of Cos speaking in a predominantly black church. I think in our Naked Public Square culture, as all of America has become further secularized, the black church–excluding a few in the south of course–has lost its voice of moral authority. I cant imagine anyone sees Sharpton or Je$$e as any type of serious moral authority of Cosby’s magnitude, not after the Twana Brawley scandal or Jackson’s illegitimate love child with a staffer (which oddly received a brief mention in the MSM)
But Cos is correct in pointing out the “dirty laundry” which everyone views every day in most American cities, school houses, etc. He is unrealistic to expect governmt at any level to solve such an intractable problem as bad moral choices by individuals (illegitimacy, drug use etc)
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That is such a beautiful story, Joel. Could you provide links to the Justice’s recent charitable works and contributions. I am certain there are many overlooked by that gutter crawling Bill Cosby. I see Thomas has accepted more gifts than any other Justice, so he clearly must give more to be so worthy.
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Joel Mark – 68
So was I, the interview was very revealing, it showed Cosby, as NOT KNOWING what he was talking about. Cosby was playing a ‘dramtic role’ which had not one thing to do with the ‘TOPIC’ and everything to do with ’self importance’.
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A disclaimer on my Cos statemt: yes I understand he has had serious and unflattering allegations made against him (”Got me drunk, took me to his house, I woke up semi dressed”) And I recall a women who claimed to be his daughter attempted to extort money from him.
But I also know he had to endure the death of his son, Ennis Cosby.
As Jim Hightower sez, even a broken clock is right twice a day. Cos and Dr Poussaint the Harvard med school psychiatrist have a lot of valid criticisms, but who beyond Larry King will publicize them?
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HAMACHITWO asked, “Could you provide links to the Justice’s recent charitable works and contributions.”
For goodness sake sir, read his book for yourself.
Did you even read my post? It was not partisan. I said that the best of the left wants to empower the public sector to help people and the best of the right wants to empower the private sector to help people.
Cosby was simply as wrong as can be to say that Thomas does not want to help other people. And he was unfair to call Justice Thomas, “brother lite.”
But I will amend my point to say that I do like much of what Cosby is saying but I am sorely disappointed with Cosby’s particular comments about Justice Thomas. There is still much to commend Cosby for, but not those particular false and demeaning comments about Justice Thomas.
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I finished Clarence Thomas’ bio last night and found it interesting. His childhood was challenging but he came from a proud family that insisted work and education were the keys to success. I thought Bill Cosby has been saying the same things for a long time.
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Most Honorable Joel, I’m not sure why you are compelled to react so defensively. Did you read my post. It was not partisan. It’s okay if you don’t have anything to support your contention, or refute Cosby’s. I am simply curious what Justice Thomas does to actively help others.
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