Rocky ride ahead
It’s only going to get worse before it gets better. That’s Ben Bernanke’s somewhat dire prediction to Congress regarding the state of the economy.
On a day when stock prices swung wildly, the dollar hit another new low against the euro and further signs emerged that consumers are growing more cautious about spending, Mr. Bernanke warned that the economy is about to “slow noticeably” as the housing market continues to spiral downward and financial institutions tighten up on lending.
But in a disappointment to investors, Mr. Bernanke offered no signal that the central bank might soften the blow by lowering interest rates for a third time this year at its next policy meeting on Dec. 11.
Stock prices, which had plunged Wednesday, went on a roller-coaster ride after Mr. Bernanke testified. The Dow Jones industrial average first fell 205 points by mid-afternoon, but then clawed back most of the way and ended the day at 13,266.29, down just 33 points.
So what does this all mean for the economy?
Mr. Bernanke offered a rocky outlook for the months ahead. He said that the battered housing market had yet to hit bottom, that delinquencies and foreclosures were likely to rise and that the downturn in home building was “likely to intensify.” He predicted that personal spending would advance more slowly, because consumers are less confident and because of tighter credit conditions.
On top of all that, he said, “further sharp increases in crude oil prices have put renewed upward pressure on inflation and may impose further restraint on economic activity.”
Despite all that, Bernanke believes the economy will remain resilient and not drift into a recession: “We have not calculated the probability of a recession. Our assessment is for slower growth, but positive.”




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Ben will probably be right but the economy will slow dramatically in this and next quarter. It remains to be seen if we fall into a mild recession. I am betting we will, especially if it continues to look like the left will gain the presidency late next year and picks up more house and senate seats. At least they will have a hard time raising taxes if we are in the recession they will have created since taking control of the House and Senate last November.
Have you noticed that the only thing that has gone right since they took over is the War in Iraq has improved with the Surge – a war they oppose and try to undermine at every opportunity. Housing and credit collapse, $100 a barrel oil, rising unemployment, collapse of the dollar. This is what Socialists cause when they are in power – it only took them a year to mess everything up. And don’t tell me we did fine economically under President Clinton either. The Republicans controlled congress then, balanced the budget and created that prosperity.
As a final note, all TALARI for Dummy investors should have sold their UUPIX Profunds Ultra EM’s and moved into UVPIX Profunds Ultra Short EM’s before close of markets yesterday. If you followed the 2 rules you will be rewarded. The international markets are down big overnight and US markets opened very weak – which is good for the shorts and bad for everyone else.
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Wonderful.
The company I work for had to lay off 4 workers, and may have to do it again. I’m not entirely sure that my job is secure, but it’s probably as secure as any. (They won’t have anyone to repair computers or ask about the design program unless they hire someone else to take my place.) Being an employee of a medium sized cabinet shop, the housing bust will pretty much affect us.
And I’m needing to put a roof on the house and repair the septic fields, not to mention buy a new vehicle… Good thing I almost have the house paid off – it’s time for repairs and upgrades now.
But still….I’m thankful as always that I have a job and a house.
Some poor folks just got burned out in California, and some folks got laid off… as well as facing a slowing economy.
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When congress questioned Bernanke, it became apparent that he doesn’t know how to do anything except take people’s hard-earned money through inflation. Ron Paul corrected him, and Bernanke was clueless. The encounter was put on YouTube 24 hours ago, and it already has over 50,000 views.
Ron Paul is right, Ben Bernanke is a price fixer. He fixes interest rates at an artificially low level.
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Why exactly is it simply going to “slow noticeably”? Looks more like the beginning of a recession to me, and we’re about due for one. Methinks the only reason nobody’s saying that is that they don’t want to spook it into existence.
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I think there is more churn in the economy than there has been in the past, people switching jobs more often, markets oscillating more, but the US economy is still strong overall for those who have the long view. Heck, my company hired a thousand people this year, but it never made the papers because it was in small batches of 20-100. That’s the way hiring happens, whereas layoffs come in bigger chunks.
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If the Ds manage to raise taxes, they’ll slow the economy faster (as revenues plummet).
It remains to be seen.
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I’ve been reading in the wsj the last few days about huge turmoil in the credit markets and huge failures in judgment at various large banks and investment companies with many millions in dollars in losses to both large investors and gullible home buyers who got way over their heads, but also to ordinary middle class consumers and investors
Do liberals screw up? Of course. The conservatives here tell us about it all the time.
Does government screw up? Of course. The conservatives here tell us about it all the time.
However, if the world of private enterprise and private capital screw up, it’s just no harm, no foul, and the business cycle that blows in and out like hurricanes and cyclones, acts of You Know Who or something.
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Llama – for the life of me, I can’t see why you blame everything bad on liberals. For someone who puports to be financially savvy, you seem to heap scorn on the Democratic Congress for everything that is going bad – even though there is scant or no evidence for your conjectures.
$100 oil? Is that the fault of liberals or rising demand as the economies of China and India grow?
Housing and credit collapse – how did liberals cause that? Cite three sources blaming it on the liberals. I can cite numerous sources saying it stemmed from an out-of-whack housing market, extending mortgage credit to those who shouldn’t have received it and CDO/SIV problems.
Rising unemployment? Are you serious? Employment is UP. Find me one release in the past year showing a decrease in employment. Then show me how the liberals caused it.
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As for the credit crisis, if you have good credit and little to no debt, then you should be fine. If you have money in the bank for a rainy day, you might actually make a little more. Many banks are raising their rates on CDs because they are short on cash. Take advantage of this.
Money will be tight because oil and food prices are going up sharply – remember, you won’t see those prices in any official government inflation rates (even though food and energy account for about 25% of most American’s expenses).
Bernake would be wise to let the credit crisis solve itself. No cash from helicopters. Banks have been raking in the dough for a while and will be able to weather the crisis. Those that can’t shouldn’t be in business anyway.
If you want to stall the falling dollar, start at home. Start saving more and spending less.
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However, if the world of private enterprise and private capital screw up, it’s just no harm, no foul, and the business cycle that blows in and out like hurricanes and cyclones, acts of You Know Who or something.
Though you might have read the WSJ of late, you obviously didn’t comprehend it. Read the article in today’s recently about the deposed heads of Merrill Lynch and Citibank after tens of billions of writeoffs on the books of their companies due to sub-prime lending exposure.
These people made serious mistakes of judgment and leadership for which they’ve paid the price of their jobs and serious loss of professional respect.
In the world of private enterprise and capital investment one is held rigorously accountable for real performance. Thousands of high-level executives move up and down the ladder often due to performance factors.
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In the above sub “Journal” for “recently.”
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Solon, as usual, you overwhelm me with your charm and good nature.
Yes, there is more instant feedback and correction in the world of free investment and capital investment.
Sometimes, once great titans and and leaders of industry fall from great heights of power, and have only their golden parachutes, summer homes, yachts, and trophy wives to comfort them in their distress and gloom. I suppose some of them are forced to turn to their Bibles for comfort.
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Lester, the price of oil is up because ten years ago, the liberals wouldn’t let us drill in ANWAR nor any other place. They prevented us from building refineries.
They, not alone, so-called conservative business men joined in conspiring to promise people that they could afford houses they couldn’t really pay for. That is because the person who originates the loan isn’t really responsible for it.
It’s like those guys on the street in Charleston or Orlando who offer free tickets or something. You take something free and end with a hard sell for time share property. The guy who got you there doesn’t care, he got his bennies for just getting you there. The guy who originates that loan did the same thing.
The government is now going to tell us that there is no penalty for making a stupid decision. The stupid ones turn out to be like me, who only bought what he could pay for.
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Though you might have read the WSJ of late, you obviously didn’t comprehend it. Read the article in today’s recently about the deposed heads of Merrill Lynch and Citibank after tens of billions of writeoffs on the books of their companies due to sub-prime lending exposure.
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Lester
Save your breath. Anything bad that happens or anything good that fails to happen from now on will be due to the fact that “it continues to look like the left will gain the presidency.” Set aside the fact that “The Left” can’t do anything without Republican cooperation (which logically, doesn’t absolve the The Left for the terrible things it does), Llama needs you to account for the fact that the economy went to hell in 2000-04 without Democrats in power, simply because Democrats exist. Try to explain that away!
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Thousands of high-level executives move up and down the ladder often due to performance factors.
They get off the ladder before it falls. “Performance” and talent are standardized and ubiquitous — what varies are the conditions and the weather. This is why CEO’s get an ever-growing piece of the pie. If they don’t demolish their companies, they survive.
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Lester, the price of oil is up because ten years ago, the liberals wouldn’t let us drill in ANWAR nor any other place. They prevented us from building refineries.
No Chas, oil production is UP from a decade ago. The problem is consumption – pure and simple. When the recession hit Asia in the late 1990s, oil prices went down. Now that those economies are growing, prices are going up.
If you think ANWAR has anything to do with it, you’ve been duped by politicians.
There’s plenty of oil out there – see the recent report that Brazil just found offshore reserves that would bring it on par with Saudi Arabia and Venezuela.
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Scroop – Yes, unfortunately, Ds do still exist. I can’t explain that away (it is irrational, like Ds, but there is apparently a right to irrationality for as long as one can sustain it).
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Bernake’s not going to lower the interest rate for awhile. China has threatened to sell off their dollars for another currency, such as the Euro, which is stronger than the dollar.
Anyway, I don’t think the experts really know what the economy is going to do. They’re like the meteorologists – they can make a good guess.
Llama is so funny! Whether or not the Democrats are in control, he’s gonna slam them coming and going. I wonder if he realizes how irrational his rantings are?
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This is cheating a bit, as Enron is probably one of the worst examples of what I am talking about. (Obviously, none of the conservatives at worldmagblog never “cherrypick” examples of liberal flaws and faults to make their points.) [s]
From a television news story from 2003 (now on the web)
Less than a year and a half ago, the name Enron became synonymous with corporate irresponsibility. After the company’s now infamous executives engaged in risky accounting methods they filed for bankruptcy and laid-off thousands of employees. Now, as Karen Singer reports, many of these people still face devastating circumstances.
Fallout from the collapse of Enron reverberates throughout Houston. Indignities suffered by Enron’s former employees are numerous: 4,000 men and women lost their jobs on a single day with no prior notice. Thousands saw their life savings disappear in evaporated Enron sponsored retirement plans. Now, these same workers find themselves unemployed in a stagnant job market.
A survey conducted in November 2002 by an advocacy group for former Enron employees, found 20 percent of survey respondents remain
Trying to find an update, I found:
Welcome to Keller Rohrback L.L.P.’s Enron ERISA fraud site which is designed to keep those with Enron 401(k) retirement plans informed about their rights. Keller Rohrback’s ERISA team is headed by the firm’s managing partner Lynn Lincoln Sarko and partner Britt Tinglum.
This website provides information and updates regarding Tittle, et al v. Enron Corp., et al.
This class action was the first case filed on behalf of all persons who were participants in or beneficiaries of the Enron Corporation Savings Plan, (401(k) Plan) from January 20, 1998, through December 2, 2001, (the Class Period) and who made or maintained investments in Enron stock. It also includes participants of the Enron Stock Ownership Plan or Cash Balance Plan during the Class Period. See the case for more information regarding the basis of the case.
Case Status:
December 2006…December 7, 2006
Keller Rohrback announces Preliminary Approval of partial settlements with Jeffrey K. Skilling and the Estate of Kenneth L. Lay as well as the apportionment of the fund previously recovered in the settlement with Andersen Worldwide Societe Cooperative (”AWSC”). The proposed partial settlements are on behalf of all participants in Enron’s ESOP and Savings Plan, during the period January 20, 1998 through December 2, 2001.
http://www.enronerisa.com/
So it’s all working out fine for everybody involved.
[Solon, if you ever understand a word I post, instead of seeing it through your puce colored glasses, drop me a line.]
Puce is a colour generally considered to be brownish-purple. A few sources define “puce” simply as “dark brown”.
English usage dates from 1787. The word comes from French; puce literally means “flea”. It is speculated that it refers to the colour of a squashed flea or the colour of a flea full of blood. Another theory is that the colour name comes from the flea’s droppings of digested blood, which spread out in deep red stain when water contacts them.
The colour puce is usually defined with adjectives such as “dark”, “deep”, “intense” and even “brilliant”. The colour example above is a lighter tint. On the other hand, the colour may refer to blue-lavender of the Pennyroyal flower, also named puce in French. The name derives from the use of pungent Pennyroyal to ward off fleas.
Prunes, which are dried plums, can also be said to be dark puce coloured. Chinese salted plums, a popular snack in China and among Chinese Americans, are closer to the actual colour puce. The colour puce can also be described as greyish pink.
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Chas is correct. If we could tap into our own supplies of oil (Gulf of Mexico and ANWAR) and build more nuclear power plants, we would not have to depend on the volatile Middle East to satisfy our energy needs.
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Actually the US derives most of its oil supply from Canada and Venzuela. The instability in the Middle East (now why is it so unstable and volatile??) affects the oil prices but not the US supply.
As a Canadian who lived through a 65 cent dollar, I can tell you it has its benefits. It makes domestic labour costs low and hence helps domestic manufacturing. In effect it lowers wages in comparison to other nations without affecting purchasing power (if you buy domestic).
However, at the present time with a Canadian dollar worth more than a US dollar, I would like to thank the Bush administration for lowering the value of the US dollar and hence giving me the lowest food bill in years. California produce is now half price. Why the Bush adminsrtation??? The current rise in oil prices due to the lack of Iraqi production has raised the Canadian dollar. Lousy fiscal management and war spending without revenues has increased the debt and lowered the value of the US dollar. US capitalist are also without blame but Random has already given examples and made this point.
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Chas is correct. If we could tap into our own supplies of oil (Gulf of Mexico and ANWAR) and build more nuclear power plants, we would not have to depend on the volatile Middle East to satisfy our energy needs.
No Chas is incorrect. Even the most liberal estimates of ANWAR reserves tops out to about one year of the oil the US uses. Gulf of Mexico? We have about two years there.
Even Dick Cheney and George Bush understand that we cannot sustain our own oil needs.
Seriously Outkast, do some research. You’re boys even disagree with you
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Instead of my usual sarcasm, I will post a straightforward post.
I think there are many merits and strengths of the free enterprise system. It motivates people to work hard and to be creative. It tends to allocate resources well and to reward hard work and ability and to punish stupidity, incompetence, and laziness. In this regard it often compares favorably to government.
There are many flaws with government programs; they tend to be the obverse or converse or opposite (or whatever is the correct word) of the virtues enunciated above.
This is the “conventional wisdom” of the conservative Christians at worldmagblog; there is much merit to it.
On the other hand, there are many flaws and problems with the free enterprise system. It does not do nearly as well a job of meeting general social problems where the desired benefits are diffuse and general and specific.
Free enterprise is not something handed down by God. It’s simply a system of organizing our economic life with many variations and many strengths and weaknesses.
There are also issues of values and goals. Whether or not the environment should be protected, for example, is an issue of values. If there is reason to do so, it is difficult for the free enterprise system to do so because there isn’t a profit in it for anyone.
In terms of agriculture for example, there are many problems resulting from applying methods of industrialization to farming. For example, when we apply monoculture on a large scale with products such as soybeans and corn or pigs, we create many problems in terms of safety, environment, and so on.
Many people here are so enraptured by slogans and clichés it is difficult to discuss these matters in an intelligent and discriminating way. If someone criticizes one aspect of free enterprise, the fairly mindless reaction is to assume that the critic is advocating “big government,” statism, socialism, etc.
At that point the discussion breaks down into people hurling clichés at each other.
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Gosh,
I just said have you noticed and the left goes nuts.
For years they have blamed everything on Bush what ever wasn’t his fault was the conservatives fault. They did this because they were out of power and they just plain blood lust wanted to insanely blame everything on anyone else but them. They have been talking down the best economy the US has ever had for years while undermining the war at every turn.
Well, now that they are back in power, which requires great responsibility to go with it, and someone does exactly what they have been doing for years – to them – these children just can’t take it. But my point, that they were insanely jealous, hateful and wrong all these years has been proven way beyond a shadow of a doubt – by them. What a bunch of woosies. Stand up and take your lumps kiddies. You only have at least 8 more years of it to take most likely.
What a bunch of twits. The fact is the left hasn’t been able to to anything except fund the war again and again that they hate so much, since they took control a year ago. They make what they called the do nothing Republican congress look like eager beavers.
They have not kept one of their campaign pledges. They spend like drunken republicans when they are sober. They waste money with earmarks they swore to stop. they said they stop the war. They claimed they would turn around a horrible economy. They said that gas was too high and they would fix that too.
If you believed these pack of liars and their little piggies they swill slop to, you deserve what they will give you when they actually do something they said they would do like raise, raise, your taxes on everything they can think of – to the moon. Sadly, these children are woosies and not very good at anything except lying, loafing and fooling the weak minded.
Never forget – do not believe what they say and never ever trust them with your money or your life.
Just look how they fixed that horrible economy for you, those of you that lost your job or will, can’t afford gas even to fart, lost your home, losing your money in the stock market, having your cash made worthless.
The world, just knowing these fools were back in power and might win the presidency is reacting to what these idiots said they would do and nothing more
You have to love it.
By the way, some of us are going to make piles of money and be more successful than ever anyway simply because we because we know them so well and have seen it all before.
By the way the last vote on ANWAR that the the left killed was in 2003. I remember it well, a famous lefty senator said on the floor, whats the big deal, we won’t get a drop of this oil to flow for 5 years anyway. Next year we could have had 10 million barrels of oil flowing to the US from the AWAR field a day – if these insane people could not have had enough power to stop drilling on 2,000 acres of the 19.1 million in the preserve. Saudi pumps 10 million barrels a day. Also, there was another lie put forth above that the entire ANWAR field would only supply America’s needs for a year. Never believe anything they say.
Now buck up lefties – its all your fault now adn has been for nearly a year. You raally need to get that stem cell thing funded so you can grow a backbone and get some tougher skin
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Llama – your posts are nothing but verbal diarrhea and lies. You never answered any of my questions because you couldn’t. Instead, you call me a lefty and then blame all the worlds problems on lefties.
Nice try.
Please, cite three sources that say ANWAR has the reserves you state.
Peak Oil freaks like yourself have been and always will be mocked.
The truth is, ANWAR was a sop to US oil companies who are sick and tired of having to compete in the open market for oil development.
There’s plenty of oil out there folks, and even if they drilled in ANWAR, the price won’t go down.
The price will only go down if consumption goes down.
And if consumption goes down, that means there is a recession somewhere.
But don’t trust me – do a google search on Dick Cheney and George Bush talking about oil. They know that we can’t sustain our own oil needs. We will always need foreign oil.
They should know since they’ve actually worked in the industry, unlike Llama.
So Llama, stop posturing and start showing us some facts. We want to see evidence that all the ills you stated are the fault of lefties.
C’mon, sissy-boy, do it
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The fact is the left hasn’t been able to to anything except fund the war again and again that they hate so much, since they took control a year ago.
Now buck up lefties – its all your fault now. . . — Llama
You are incoherent, old timer.
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Scroopy Old Moth Ball,
The only thing the left has done since they took power is to extend the funding of the War In Iraq – Twice. They have not funded anything else or passed any other appropriations bills. You may not know this but Congress only does something when they actually appropriate the money to do it – but you are young and ignorant.
You can’t have it both ways as famously stated in ‘having your cake and eating it too.’
You can’t blame Bush and right for every evil and horrible thing in the world for the last 7 years saying they are responsible since they controlled political power and that if the left took over these things would b e fixed, but then when the left finally takes political power, claim that they, because they are lefties and always right, are not a fault for everything that goes wrong when they are in power. The left was either lying then or they are lying now – take your pick – but they be liars none the less.
Hope you are not one of them my little grasshopper.
This llama be a little older, nearly reaching his prime, but it would be unwise to make untested erroneous assumptions about him or assume he is lost like you
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The only thing the left has done since they took power is to extend the funding of the War In Iraq – Twice. They have not funded anything else or passed any other appropriations bills. — Llama #27
Housing and credit collapse, $100 a barrel oil, rising unemployment, collapse of the dollar. This is what Socialists cause when they are in power – it only took them a year to mess everything up. — Llama #1
If you don’t quit spitting and start carrying your load, Llama, people are going to think of you as glue.
So how are you going to make a pile of money when HRC takes over? Walk me through that, if you can’t explain your previous comments.
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Lester Oh Lester – You are too easy.
I usually do not do research for others, especially lazy lefties who never seem to do it to know the facts, but this was easy since I have all the facts at hand when it comes to US oil consumption, production and forecasts. Since I buy, hedge, contract futures and consume several million gallons of fuel each year, I find knowing the truth about oil a business necessity that could cost me quite easily millions of dollars if I guess unwisely – unlike some others.
The total US oil consumption in 2003 was 20,034,000 barrels a day and US imports were 10,115,241 barrels a day with about 50% was imported. The conservative proven estimated total ANWAR field reserves on the original 2,000 acres tested only, is 10.4 Billion Barrels of oil. Based on 2003 US consumption the original ANWAR field on 2,000 acres was 1.42 years of total US consumption. Your fib, exaggeration or what ever you want to call it was only off 42%. This of course was only based on the original proven field on the measly 2,000 acres.
ANWAR also represented 3 years of total US imports in 2003 as well. Now assuming that it would be prudent financially to pump about 1.4 million barrels a day from ANWAR this would represent about 14% of 2003 US oil imports – every day and 7% of our total 2003 consumption.
With the US using 25,26% of the world’s 79,613,000 barrels of oil a day in 2003, ANWAR represented 1.76% of the entire world oil consumption in 2003.
What is happening today in the oil business is quite clear. Since 2003 US oil consumption has increased 3.3% (1.1% a year through latest data at end of 2006) while world oil consumption, including the USA increase, has increased 6.4%. This means that the non US world is increasing their oil consumption at roughly 3 times the rate of the USA and this increase is happening mainly in undeveloped Emerging countries like China, India, Far and Near East countries and Latin America.
No surprise there. Since 2003 to date, world oil supply has just barely kept up with the world oil demand but the rate of increasing demand is much greater than the ability to increase supply for several well know reasons even a lefty could find if they were not so lazy.
First off, there was an excess supply capacity that was not being tapped where oil producers had already built the infrastructure to produce more oil as it was needed by the world. OPEC routinely limited oil production from their members to make the supply of oil equal to the demand resulting in the highest price the market could bear for their oil production. ARAB Oil Potentates know the oil pricing and business much better than any lefty it seems – plus they are probably smarter too
Secondly, since OPEC oil producers have had excess supply capacity, there was no reason for them to invest the billion and billions of dollars in new infrastructure to be able to produce more oil.
Thirdly, it takes years and years besides the billions of dollars in investment, 5 in the case of ANWAR, to build this infrastructure and since the ageing old infrastructure fields were being depleted, old field production was going down sucking up the old excess capacity at a great rate. A 5 year lead time for any development of new oil fields makes keeping supply in line with near instantly huge increases in world demand – difficult if not impossible when lefties will not allow any development of newly found domestic oil reserves.
These OPEC oil potentates have no incentive to produce more oil either. They have learned that less oil production means huge oil prices for them now and makes their oil reserves last decades longer that can be sold in the future at even higher and higher prices – prices that you don’t want to know about but, $100 a barrel oil today will feel exactly like the $10 a barrel oil we saw 10 yeas ago. Who would have thought that you could be buying oil from these same Oil Potentates 10 years for now at 10 to 20 times its current price?
Well, today thanks to lefties exclusively, US oil production continues to fall and in 4 short years we are now importing 60% of our oil even though our consumption is only up 3.3%. They of course will cry like the children they are and claim otherwise by lying like children are want to do when they get caught, but the fact is the insane left has brought to halt, nearly all by themselves, any and all production of substantial US oil reserves in Alaska, the Gulf of Mexico and off the coast of Florida or anywhere else in the USA for that matter. It is almost like they are working with Arab Oil Potentates to win higher prices for their Arab Oil Potentate buddies, at America’s expense, the same way they are working to win the war for their Islamofascist terrorist buddies who cannot win it on the battlefield without the left’s invaluable help – just like Vietnam.
But, the left isn’t just working against America when it comes to oil prices and Islamofascists terrorists they are also single handedly causing huge price increases in all other energy supplies including gasoline, natural gas, electricity. It is the left, all by themselves, that has stopped the building of all new gasoline refineries, the development of natural gas fields and the building of nuclear power plants for 30 years now – causing a shortage today that has driven up energy prices, limited their availability and making future energy supply – this country cannot live without and no alternative can supply – regardless of their insane alternative claims otherwise.
They are also blocking all the alternative energy wind and solar projects, that have been blocked to date, for environmental reason. Don’t try to understand whack jobs if you want to remain sane. Just remember to ignore what they say since it is probably a lie, but watch closely what they do since they want you as poor, miserable and dead like like …..eeerrr……Socialists on the Socialism Drug
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Scroopy,
I explained it all quite well, tyou just can’t seem to get it for some reason – but take heart, you are not alone in lacking understanding of the most simple things.
GO back TO GO and read closely.
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Scroopy,
I suppose that I did not explain how the left was complicit in the Mortgage Credit Meltdown but I did not do so on purpose. I know what happens when we supply everything for lefties for free in our unlimited generosity. But being a compassionate conservative I feel like I should give you a hint and teach you some logic – also for free by asking a few questions about this subject and see if you can research the answers correctly to test assumptions properly and draw conclusions based on facts and logic.
What political party was in charge and allowed borrowers to swindle lending institutions?
Why would these borrowers for any reason take money form anyone they knew they could not pay back – but still promise to do so by contract?
Who was generous to help people and provide funding for homes at great personal and company risk?
Who were these people that swindled the lenders?
What political persuasion were these swindling borrowers?
Were these borrowers of any particular race, economic status or political party?
Where did these swindlers live in the vast majority?
Who controlled the politics where these borrowers lived?
There are many more questions that, I will leave to you to discover and answer, before you can test any assumption for truth in this matter and develop any conclusions that will stand muster.
Teaching is generosity at its finest. Generosity is the greatest of all character attributes to have an hold dear and required for success.
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Scroopy,
I always make money. Historically, when Lefties have the presidency or control the house and senate or all three, there is a recession.
The last recession of note started in April 1999 while Clinton was President. It took me 6 years before 1999 to quadruple my net worth – twice – and only 2 years after Clinton’s 1999 recession to do it again – twice. Not bragging – just grateful for this great country and stating the historical facts.
I usually don’t tell lefties how to make money. I try never to do business with them and I certainly try to avoid hiring them at all costs for that matter, but in this case the cat is already out of the bag.
From 1993 to 1999 the NASDAQ went from roughly 1000 to 5000 or so and then 2 years later it was back down to 1000 again.
It doesn’t take a lefty rocket scientist like you to figure out that if you used the principles of the Art of Low Risk Investing – for Dummies, to use calls on the way up and puts on the way down and that making a fortune both ways was quite easy. This was a ’slam dunk’ and we will like never ever see an investing atmosphere like this in America in our lifetime.
Thelast 4 years have been just like it though in the Emerging Markets on the upside. I am praying the the lefty recession this time will also be as profitable as the last one.
Can you see how easy it is Scroopy or do you need some more teaching? I will admit it helps not to be a rocket scientist like you and be a Dummy like me in order to understand simple things like making money
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1.42 years of consumption — a piss in the proverbial bucket. The Alberta tar sands should keep the US motoring a little more than that.
I always viewed the stock market as a casino, especially when it included leverage, derivatives, puts, calls, futures etc. If you buy and sell stock on the basis of a company’s performance or promise I understand. The rest is suspiciously similar to the blackjack and poker table.
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HRW,
What is the equivalent of a “put” at the blackjack and poker table?
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Llama —
So, it sounds like you’re an options trader with a supernatural guru. I’m glad the booms and busts work for you. You’re a modest man to say it’s easy, however. I’ve looked at “Options as a Strategic Investment,” and have a brother who has a small firm with some billions of bank money under management. I don’t know how rich he is, because he never boasts, but perhaps he’s not as rich as you, considering that he has some liberal employees.
Your facts about the last recession are wrong. The peak of the business cycle expansion was March 2001 and the trough of the contraction was Nov. 2001. Nobody accused the Fed under Clinton of mishandling the money supply, which is considered to be a big factor in recession.
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Scroopy,
Stick to the facts please. The standard definition for a recession, excepted by everyone but you it seems, is negative growth two periods in a row. That happened in April 1999. To have a chance to be right, you have to know what the standard you are shooting for is, know what is is and then your assumption can be compared to it for truthfulness.
Do you know that your little piss is worth $1 trillion dollars today? 1/13th of US GDP and 1/8th its national debt. If $1 trillion is a piss to you I’d hate to expose your ego – which was easily done anyway. Never forget; fear, pride and ego are the three character attributes that cause failure – every time. Just call it another freebie given to the have nots from the haves
You don’t know how rich I am either and you could never, ever guess by my lifestyle either. Truth be known, I barely have enough money today to eek out a comfortable retirement if I ever retire for good, but my daughter is pretty well off.
I’m sure your brother lives way better and gives less to charity though – regardless of his wealth. Remind him it is better to be managing your own money than doing for others. Hopefully he knows that money is pretty worthless in the scheme of things, and just a tool used to fix the broken and nothing more – its value is the same as a $1 screw driver.
Making money, if that is what you want to do, is easy. In fact, doing anything you want to do in life for the most part is easy – if you have normal intelligence and are not physically handicapped. It is just seems hard for those who don’t believe it, lack the required character attributes to succeed, avoid the tree that cause failure and don’t actually do it, or much of anything for that matter – and thus do not know how really easy it is. Like they say, you can’t win if you don’t play.
All you have to have is good character and the willingness to sacrifice and willingness to do what ever it takes – no matter how many times you fail – and you will fail more often than anyone else since you are actually doing something that can be failed at. See how easy it is? Pay no attention whatsoever to those that make fun of you when they see you fail all the time, or are jealous of you when you succeed once in a while and reward generously those that help you solve problems.
Calls and puts are much less risky than owning or shorting stocks outright. If it costs you $300 to buy a $3 call on a 100 shares of a $50 stock, the most you have invested is $300 and that is most you can lose. Your upside is unlimited. If you own the 100 shares of stock, you have $5,000 invested (instead of $300) and you risk losing it all ($5,000) instead of the maximum risk of losing $300 with the call. Owning the stock also has unlimited upside. The less risky investment is to buy calls instead of shares of stock.
Options have nothing to do with TALARI for Dummies of course, but they fit quite well with its central theme of reducing investment risk to the absolute lowest possible level while maximizing potential profits. Oddly, people think options are way more risky than owning stock outright (totally wrong) and for savvy, experienced investors only. This is nonsense of course. They actually think the same thong about TALARI too until folks get the gist of TALARI and learn the truth – for themselves. They are shocked to realize how simple it is and are stunned it took until 1974 for an MBA student at Harvard to discover such a simple thing. I know I was.
But that is the way life is. Some people spend their whole lives believing false assumptions, doing little that leads to success, focusing in on the insignificant instead and do not realize the truth is quite elegantly simple most always and easy to take advantage of in any endeavor.
From my personal experience, using the 1 simple principle of The Art of Low Risk Investing and its other rule number 2 of never violating rule number 1, in 29 years TALARI has never lost money and it has averaged a minimum return of well over twice what the best market returned in the USA – or lost in any year. The past 3 years TALRI returned over 100% each and every year and has a chance to do so again this year – setting a new record.
Investing for me has nothing in common with gambling in Las Vegas where i personally have never walked out of town a winner – not ever. I like better odds that are always in my favor. Like talking to you
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Scroopy,
But investment isn’t and never has been my line of work either. It is just a hooby. How could one spend 5 minutes a day on TALARI and call that a job? You got to watch those assumptions
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Llama – you talk about ego and pride, yet you sure do a lot of bragging. Frankly, I think you’re full of crap.
The mortgage crisis is not the fault of liberals, but the companies who were all too willing to lend money to people who shouldn’t have gotten it. Liberal Congress wasn’t putting a gun to the head of these mortgage companies.
Nor was the Liberal Congress putting a gun to the head of the financial institutions creating CDOs and SIVs from these shaky mortgages.
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