Comments on: The practical choice http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:38:36 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Mr_Meaner http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237475 Mr_Meaner Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:10:07 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237475 heh :-D heh
:-D

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]]> By: Tony Woodlief http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237473 Tony Woodlief Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:06:31 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237473 No hard feelings, and no apology needed. I usually don't read George Bernard Shaw until after lunch, for that very reason. No hard feelings, and no apology needed.

I usually don’t read George Bernard Shaw until after lunch, for that very reason.

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]]> By: Mr_Meaner http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237468 Mr_Meaner Tue, 13 Nov 2007 04:01:07 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237468 #59 Deal.. And, once again..my apologies #59
Deal..
And, once again..my apologies

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]]> By: Mr_Meaner http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237467 Mr_Meaner Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:59:54 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237467 BTW, My kudos to Outkast, earlier, wasn't an insult directed at you. It was a show of support for the position he was taking. In retrospect, I probably shouldn't have said "these liberals", or "these guys". I have no doubt that you and HRW, in fact, have a clue. I just get agitated when I read socialist rhetoric first thing in the morning. BTW,
My kudos to Outkast, earlier, wasn’t an insult directed at you. It was a show of support for the position he was taking.
In retrospect, I probably shouldn’t have said “these liberals”, or “these guys”.
I have no doubt that you and HRW, in fact, have a clue.
I just get agitated when I read socialist rhetoric first thing in the morning.

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]]> By: Tony Woodlief http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237459 Tony Woodlief Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:51:31 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237459 I suppose we can stipulate that we both agree with the entire Bible. We also agree about the appropriate size of government. And yet we speak almost entirely different languages. So you were thinking that I was a liberal big-government do-gooder, and I was thinking you were someone who believes he'll get into heaven because of his good works, and then you were thinking that I believed there's no such thing as sin. So I'll try to give you the benefit of the doubt in the future, and you can try to do the same for me -- deal? I suppose we can stipulate that we both agree with the entire Bible. We also agree about the appropriate size of government. And yet we speak almost entirely different languages. So you were thinking that I was a liberal big-government do-gooder, and I was thinking you were someone who believes he’ll get into heaven because of his good works, and then you were thinking that I believed there’s no such thing as sin.

So I’ll try to give you the benefit of the doubt in the future, and you can try to do the same for me — deal?

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]]> By: Mr_Meaner http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237457 Mr_Meaner Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:40:46 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237457 Ahem They're only disconnected if you can't understand the connection. I'd rather not have to spell it out. (I will, if you tell me specifically what you disagree with) But if you're quoting Romans to make your case, while claiming the Law isn't in effect, My assertion about righteous acts is the least of your concerns.I don't know if there is enough space on this site to help you get what I'm saying. How about this one I Jn. 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the Law: for sin is the transgression of the Law. So...what do you call sin? Ahem
They’re only disconnected if you can’t understand the connection.
I’d rather not have to spell it out.
(I will, if you tell me specifically what you disagree with)
But if you’re quoting Romans to make your case, while claiming the Law isn’t in effect,
My assertion about righteous acts is the least of your concerns.I don’t know if there is enough space on this site to help you get what I’m saying.

How about this one
I Jn. 3:4
Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the Law: for sin is the transgression of the Law.

So…what do you call sin?

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]]> By: Mr_Meaner http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237452 Mr_Meaner Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:31:21 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237452 You are saved by faith. You are rewarded.."every man, according to his works." Your righteous acts make up your garments, which is a cryptic way of saying, either you will wear a priest's garment...or not, during the reign of Christ. And that depends largely on the choices you make at the end of this age. There...that should freak everyone out! You are saved by faith.
You are rewarded..”every man, according to his works.”
Your righteous acts make up your garments, which is a cryptic way of saying, either you will wear a priest’s garment…or not, during the reign of Christ. And that depends largely on the choices you make at the end of this age.
There…that should freak everyone out!

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]]> By: Tony Woodlief http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237450 Tony Woodlief Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:23:59 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237450 Mr. Meaner clearly didn't read my last comment, or simply didn't understand it, but since quoting disconnected Bible verses is the order of the evening, perhaps these are worth considering, even if they aren't in the stern King James: Romans 3:21a "because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in his sight" Romans 3:23 "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" Ephesians 1:8-10 "For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them." Mr. Meaner clearly didn’t read my last comment, or simply didn’t understand it, but since quoting disconnected Bible verses is the order of the evening, perhaps these are worth considering, even if they aren’t in the stern King James:

Romans 3:21a
“because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in his sight”

Romans 3:23
“for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God”

Ephesians 1:8-10
“For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.”

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]]> By: Mr_Meaner http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237435 Mr_Meaner Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:40:19 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237435 Rev 19 "6: And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth. 7: Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. 8: And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints. Rev 3:4-5 Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white; for they are worthy. He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. Rev 3:17-18 "Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing: and knowest not that thou art wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked: I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou may be rich: and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear." Rev 16:15 "Behold, I comest as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame. Rev 19
“6: And I heard as it were the voice of a great multitude, and as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of mighty thunderings, saying, Alleluia: for the Lord God omnipotent reigneth.
7: Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready.
8: And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.

Rev 3:4-5
Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white; for they are worthy.
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

Rev 3:17-18
“Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing: and knowest not that thou art wretched, miserable, poor, blind, and naked:
I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou may be rich: and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear.”

Rev 16:15
“Behold, I comest as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

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]]> By: Kiyoshi http://online.worldmag.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/comment-page-2/#comment-237414 Kiyoshi Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:46:54 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2007/11/09/the-practical-choice/#comment-237414 Meaner, I daresay that if you find yourself clothed in your own righteous acts in the life to come, you'll likely find yourself in hell. For only those who by faith find themselves clothed in Christ's righteousness shall see heaven. Anyway...something to ponder. Meaner,

I daresay that if you find yourself clothed in your own righteous acts in the life to come, you’ll likely find yourself in hell. For only those who by faith find themselves clothed in Christ’s righteousness shall see heaven.

Anyway…something to ponder.

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