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		<title>By: Random Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 05:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may call me insane if you wish.

A SHROPSHIRE LAD: LXII

Terence, this is stupid stuff...

&quot;Terence, this is stupid stuff: 
You eat your victuals fast enough; 
There can&#039;t be much amiss, &#039;tis clear, 
To see the rate you drink your beer. 
But oh, good Lord, the verse you make, 
It gives a chap the belly-ache. 
The cow, the old cow, she is dead; 
It sleeps well, the horned head: 
We poor lads, &#039;tis our turn now 
To hear such tunes as killed the cow. 
Pretty friendship &#039;tis to rhyme 
Your friends to death before their time 
Moping melancholy mad: 
Come, pipe a tune to dance to, lad.&quot; 

Why, if &#039;tis dancing you would be, 
There&#039;s brisker pipes than poetry. 
Say, for what were hop-yards meant, 
Or why was Burton built on Trent? 
Oh many a peer of England brews 
Livelier liquor than the Muse, 
And malt does more than Milton can 
To justify God&#039;s ways to man. 
Ale, man, ale&#039;s the stuff to drink 
For fellows whom it hurts to think: 
Look into the pewter pot 
To see the world as the world&#039;s not. 
And faith, &#039;tis pleasant till &#039;tis past: 
The mischief is that &#039;twill not last. 
Oh I have been to Ludlow fair 
And left my necktie God knows where, 
And carried half way home, or near, 
Pints and quarts of Ludlow beer: 
Then the world seemed none so bad, 
And I myself a sterling lad; 
And down in lovely muck I&#039;ve lain, 
Happy till I woke again. 
Then I saw the morning sky: 
Heigho, the tale was all a lie; 
The world, it was the old world yet, 
I was I, my things were wet, 
And nothing now remained to do 
But begin the game anew. 

Therefore, since the world has still 
Much good, but much less good than ill, 
And while the sun and moon endure 
Luck&#039;s a chance, but trouble&#039;s sure, 
I&#039;d face it as a wise man would, 
And train for ill and not for good. 
&#039;Tis true, the stuff I bring for sale 
Is not so brisk a brew as ale: 
Out of a stem that scored the hand 
I wrung it in a weary land. 
But take it: if the smack is sour 
The better for the embittered hour; 
It will do good to heart and head 
When your soul is in my soul&#039;s stead; 
And I will friend you, if I may, 
In the dark and cloudy day. 

There was a king reigned in the East: 
There, when kings will sit to feast, 
They get their fill before they think 
With poisoned meat and poisoned drink. 
He gathered all that sprang to birth 
From the many-venomed earth; 
First a little, thence to more, 
He sampled all her killing store; 
And easy, smiling, seasoned sound, 
Sate the king when healths went round. 
They put arsenic in his meat 
And stared aghast to watch him eat; 
They poured strychnine in his cup 
And shook to see him drink it up: 
They shook, they stared as white&#039;s their shirt: 
Them it was their poison hurt. 
--I tell the tale that I heard told. 
Mithridates, he died old.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may call me insane if you wish.</p>
<p>A SHROPSHIRE LAD: LXII</p>
<p>Terence, this is stupid stuff&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Terence, this is stupid stuff:<br />
You eat your victuals fast enough;<br />
There can&#8217;t be much amiss, &#8217;tis clear,<br />
To see the rate you drink your beer.<br />
But oh, good Lord, the verse you make,<br />
It gives a chap the belly-ache.<br />
The cow, the old cow, she is dead;<br />
It sleeps well, the horned head:<br />
We poor lads, &#8217;tis our turn now<br />
To hear such tunes as killed the cow.<br />
Pretty friendship &#8217;tis to rhyme<br />
Your friends to death before their time<br />
Moping melancholy mad:<br />
Come, pipe a tune to dance to, lad.&#8221; </p>
<p>Why, if &#8217;tis dancing you would be,<br />
There&#8217;s brisker pipes than poetry.<br />
Say, for what were hop-yards meant,<br />
Or why was Burton built on Trent?<br />
Oh many a peer of England brews<br />
Livelier liquor than the Muse,<br />
And malt does more than Milton can<br />
To justify God&#8217;s ways to man.<br />
Ale, man, ale&#8217;s the stuff to drink<br />
For fellows whom it hurts to think:<br />
Look into the pewter pot<br />
To see the world as the world&#8217;s not.<br />
And faith, &#8217;tis pleasant till &#8217;tis past:<br />
The mischief is that &#8217;twill not last.<br />
Oh I have been to Ludlow fair<br />
And left my necktie God knows where,<br />
And carried half way home, or near,<br />
Pints and quarts of Ludlow beer:<br />
Then the world seemed none so bad,<br />
And I myself a sterling lad;<br />
And down in lovely muck I&#8217;ve lain,<br />
Happy till I woke again.<br />
Then I saw the morning sky:<br />
Heigho, the tale was all a lie;<br />
The world, it was the old world yet,<br />
I was I, my things were wet,<br />
And nothing now remained to do<br />
But begin the game anew. </p>
<p>Therefore, since the world has still<br />
Much good, but much less good than ill,<br />
And while the sun and moon endure<br />
Luck&#8217;s a chance, but trouble&#8217;s sure,<br />
I&#8217;d face it as a wise man would,<br />
And train for ill and not for good.<br />
&#8216;Tis true, the stuff I bring for sale<br />
Is not so brisk a brew as ale:<br />
Out of a stem that scored the hand<br />
I wrung it in a weary land.<br />
But take it: if the smack is sour<br />
The better for the embittered hour;<br />
It will do good to heart and head<br />
When your soul is in my soul&#8217;s stead;<br />
And I will friend you, if I may,<br />
In the dark and cloudy day. </p>
<p>There was a king reigned in the East:<br />
There, when kings will sit to feast,<br />
They get their fill before they think<br />
With poisoned meat and poisoned drink.<br />
He gathered all that sprang to birth<br />
From the many-venomed earth;<br />
First a little, thence to more,<br />
He sampled all her killing store;<br />
And easy, smiling, seasoned sound,<br />
Sate the king when healths went round.<br />
They put arsenic in his meat<br />
And stared aghast to watch him eat;<br />
They poured strychnine in his cup<br />
And shook to see him drink it up:<br />
They shook, they stared as white&#8217;s their shirt:<br />
Them it was their poison hurt.<br />
&#8211;I tell the tale that I heard told.<br />
Mithridates, he died old.
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		<title>By: winsometochrist</title>
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		<dc:creator>winsometochrist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 01:43:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re: 39. XION, who said &quot;All I know is I prayed and God provided.&quot; Praise the Lord! I believe our God blessed your obedience to pray; it was not so much WHAT you prayed, but WHETHER you prayed. 

Your comment reminds me of the blessing received by the blind man who told his interrogators he did not know how Jesus had healed him, but &quot;One thing I know: that though I was blind, now I see.&quot; (John 9:1)
Just a little encouragement: to know how or why is not as important as it is to &quot;know,&quot; or believe, and trust. Do we know how or why the laws of physics, science or nature work? Even though we do not know or understand the reasons for their working, we can and do and must trust/beleive that they will work. Our is not to know but to trust and obey. I am happy you see (and correctly credit) God&#039;s provision for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re: 39. XION, who said &#8220;All I know is I prayed and God provided.&#8221; Praise the Lord! I believe our God blessed your obedience to pray; it was not so much WHAT you prayed, but WHETHER you prayed. </p>
<p>Your comment reminds me of the blessing received by the blind man who told his interrogators he did not know how Jesus had healed him, but &#8220;One thing I know: that though I was blind, now I see.&#8221; (John 9:1)<br />
Just a little encouragement: to know how or why is not as important as it is to &#8220;know,&#8221; or believe, and trust. Do we know how or why the laws of physics, science or nature work? Even though we do not know or understand the reasons for their working, we can and do and must trust/beleive that they will work. Our is not to know but to trust and obey. I am happy you see (and correctly credit) God&#8217;s provision for you.
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		<title>By: musing</title>
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		<dc:creator>musing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 16:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The concept of impolite is arguably very imprecise with a wide variety of meanings.

It can, for example, mean making comments about another&#039;s beliefs.

It can, for example, mean making comments about another&#039;s politics.

It can, for example, mean making comments about another&#039;s looks or origin.

I do believe that Lynn has been very clear on the following point:

1)  it is open season on ideas, so long as the comments are fact based and use reasonable standards of language

2)  the individuals themselves are off limits

So calling a poster insane is probably inappropriate.

Saying that a posted idea is insane because [fill in with supported reason] is perhaps appropriate.

And politeness, I suggest, is always within the context of the situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The concept of impolite is arguably very imprecise with a wide variety of meanings.</p>
<p>It can, for example, mean making comments about another&#8217;s beliefs.</p>
<p>It can, for example, mean making comments about another&#8217;s politics.</p>
<p>It can, for example, mean making comments about another&#8217;s looks or origin.</p>
<p>I do believe that Lynn has been very clear on the following point:</p>
<p>1)  it is open season on ideas, so long as the comments are fact based and use reasonable standards of language</p>
<p>2)  the individuals themselves are off limits</p>
<p>So calling a poster insane is probably inappropriate.</p>
<p>Saying that a posted idea is insane because [fill in with supported reason] is perhaps appropriate.</p>
<p>And politeness, I suggest, is always within the context of the situation.
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		<title>By: Night Train</title>
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		<dc:creator>Night Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; very odd...........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It <i>is</i> very odd&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting ..............</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..
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		<title>By: Night Train</title>
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		<dc:creator>Night Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No.  Certainly I&#039;ve written nothing impolite in this thread.  I assumed that I was the one being referred to, but could be wrong.  The rudest person on here is the one decrying impolite people, and referring to their &quot;insanities&quot;.  While there are people on this thread who strongly disagree with each other, they&#039;re all quite rational, and there&#039;s no one who remotely appears to be insane.  And, until Kennethos came along, we were all being quite civil to each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No.  Certainly I&#8217;ve written nothing impolite in this thread.  I assumed that I was the one being referred to, but could be wrong.  The rudest person on here is the one decrying impolite people, and referring to their &#8220;insanities&#8221;.  While there are people on this thread who strongly disagree with each other, they&#8217;re all quite rational, and there&#8217;s no one who remotely appears to be insane.  And, until Kennethos came along, we were all being quite civil to each other.
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And you can&#039;t see it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And you can&#8217;t see it?
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 04:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;And what part of the discussion has been impolite? Please point it out.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;And what part of the discussion has been impolite? Please point it out.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Night Train</title>
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		<dc:creator>Night Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Various insanities?  What does Pat Robertson have to do with this?

And then you go on, after calling people you disagree with insane, to decry the lack of &quot;polite discussion&quot;.  What a hypocrite.  

And what part of the discussion has been impolite?  Please point it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Various insanities?  What does Pat Robertson have to do with this?</p>
<p>And then you go on, after calling people you disagree with insane, to decry the lack of &#8220;polite discussion&#8221;.  What a hypocrite.  </p>
<p>And what part of the discussion has been impolite?  Please point it out.
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		<title>By: Kennethos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kennethos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 22:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andree:

Foolishly, I haven&#039;t actually read your column on prayer, your son&#039;s car accident, etc. Since I&#039;m not planning on addressing that, I feel a bit less hypocritical. :)

That said, I know a bit about having to be thick-skinned in regard to negative responses. For the last couple of years, I&#039;ve written religious/political essays published in a local university political magazine, here in the midwest.

Sometimes I get polite appreciate feedback. More often, I don&#039;t. But, I feel spiritual freedom to write about what needs to be said, with less care and apprehension for myself. What I&#039;ve written is a smidgen of what you&#039;ve written for WORLD. You understand, I think, that part of you is always on display, for untold numbers of people you&#039;ll likely never meet. And yet, you continue to do this, for a variety of reasons...spiritual gifts, encouragement, etc. Part and parcel with this is a senstitivity to how your readers will take this. Most, like myself, are appreciative, and glad for the words and thoughts. Others, however, may be possessed of various insanities that do not lend themselves to polite discussions. Such folks may need to be ignored, and prayed for, instead of allowing them to get under your skin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andree:</p>
<p>Foolishly, I haven&#8217;t actually read your column on prayer, your son&#8217;s car accident, etc. Since I&#8217;m not planning on addressing that, I feel a bit less hypocritical. <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That said, I know a bit about having to be thick-skinned in regard to negative responses. For the last couple of years, I&#8217;ve written religious/political essays published in a local university political magazine, here in the midwest.</p>
<p>Sometimes I get polite appreciate feedback. More often, I don&#8217;t. But, I feel spiritual freedom to write about what needs to be said, with less care and apprehension for myself. What I&#8217;ve written is a smidgen of what you&#8217;ve written for WORLD. You understand, I think, that part of you is always on display, for untold numbers of people you&#8217;ll likely never meet. And yet, you continue to do this, for a variety of reasons&#8230;spiritual gifts, encouragement, etc. Part and parcel with this is a senstitivity to how your readers will take this. Most, like myself, are appreciative, and glad for the words and thoughts. Others, however, may be possessed of various insanities that do not lend themselves to polite discussions. Such folks may need to be ignored, and prayed for, instead of allowing them to get under your skin.
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