End the war (on Thanksgiving)
The War on Terror might not necessarily be moving to Iran, but the War on Christmas has definitely spread to Thanksgiving. The Pilgrims went to church, we know that much. They believed America was pretty much the New Israel, even though it isn’t. And they thanked God at the first Thanksgiving. But that might not necessarily mean that Thanksgiving, as we know it, is a Christian holiday.
Even if Thanksgiving is a religious holiday, it must rank as the most accessible of all. Unlike on other holidays, as Reed points out, there are no potentially mystifying doctrines (like resurrection or virgin birth) to wrestle with, and the environmental themes (the Wampanoag practiced something like sustainable agriculture) are certainly in step with the times. Ministers say the day can be popular with people who want to test the religious waters. They head for churches and soup kitchens on Thanksgiving, attracted by the spirit of ecumenism and the emphasis on sharing and good works. If you had to identify Thanksgiving with any particular religious tradition, it might be part of what sociologist Robert Bellah called the American civil religion, combining elements of American history and myth with a general belief in Providence.
I’d tend to agree with that assessment. I don’t think it hurts Jesus’ feelings when pagans don’t thank him for turkey. At least no more than it bothers him the other 364 days of the year.













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I agree wholeheartedly, Harrison. Even with the deterioration of our culture, Thanksgiving has remained a time for families to join together and enjoy fellowship.
The day after, of course, is a whole other issue . . .
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We will enjoy a secular Thanksgiving. I hope everyone enjoys their Thanksgiving, whatever the food served and whatever the belief served.
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Thanks Random, and I hope you stick around even if you don’t post in the new year.
BTW, is your avatar getting smaller, or is that just my vision getting poorer? Maybe I need even BIGGER glasses??
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Is Outkast the secret love child of HSK and Drew Carey? Just curious.
Back to the point. Thinking about what to be thankful for has occupied the last 30 minutes of my time. There is a sobering effect in counting your blessings
Thanksgiving is the holiday that brings families together perhaps more than any other holiday. It is the busiest travel holiday of the year. I will be spending Thanksgiving with my other half of the family in South Florida. Up until this year it has always been my Chicago family I spent Thanksgiving with.
Should be a great reunion.
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Good article. Good points.
What I appreciate about the holiday is that it’s focused around being thankful. In spite of the problems and troubles, we have much to be thankful for. I certainly see the day as much less “selfish” and commercialized than Christmas.
Plus there’s football
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There is no “war on Christmas,” Harrison. Nor is there a “war on thanksgiving.”
But let me be the first to suggest a “war on war” or at least on the use of the work “war” to describe any non-lethal political and social activities.
Gobble, gobble.
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Lincoln’s proclamation in 1864 for the first modern Thanksgiving captures its essence in this paragraph:
Now, therefore, I, Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States, do hereby appoint and set apart the last Thursday in November next as a day which I desire to be observed by all my fellow-citizens, wherever they may be then, as a day of thanksgiving and praise to Almighty God, the beneficent Creator and Ruler of the Universe. And I do further recommend to my fellow-citizens aforesaid, that on that occasion they do reverently humble themselves in the dust, and from thence offer up penitent and fervent prayers and supplications to the great Disposer of events for a return of the inestimable blessings of peace, union, and harmony throughout the land which it has pleased him to assign as a dwelling-place for ourselves and for our posterity throughout all generations.
This is in keeping with the Pilgrims of Plymouth, who, after a year of losing about half their number, gave a feast, to which the Wamponoags were invited and gave thanks to God for their manifold blessings along with humbling themselves in the dust for their manifold sins.
There is simply no reasonable escape from the profoundly religious beginning of Thanksgiving day.
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and no real point in emphasizing it. All your doing is suggesting that people be excluded from celebrating the holiday.
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How can you celibrate a holiday if there is no point and purpose in the holiday?
Had it not been for Lincoln’s declaration the fourth Thursday of November would be . . . the fourth Thursday of November.
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No one should be excluded from celebrating the holiday, DCL. They should simply be educated as to the origin of Thanksgiving, which Joel Mark explained so well in post 7.
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This topic has been explored last week, and should be put to rest. Some people thank God, some people thank each other and others sleep in and watch football. And myself, I’ll be at work.
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What war? It’s parade time! Yay! Macy’s in particular, hosted by Meredith Vieira and Matt Lauer on NBC.
There’s supposed to be a gigantic Shrek 3 balloon this year. Hope it stays tethered, not like some of those goofy balloon accidents in previous years. Wasn’t it Underdog who caused havoc?
No word yet if any of the surviving Wampanoags will march in the parade. It would be great if they had a special Massosoit float to express their thanks.
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HRW would love to “put to rest” every issue, right after he declares his opinion. Wouldn’t that make for a very boring blog?
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No I just don’t like talking in circles. As its apparent that evangelicals think giving thanks is an exclusive activity for theists to practise , I have to wonder what’s the point. And so move on there’s nothing to see here.
As for my opinion, without it, this blog would be worse for wear and very boring.
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Not really HRW, in fact when not bogged down by the tendentious agnostic and atheists, WorldMag bloggers are able to have wide ranging and excellent discussions. You pious secular folk suffer the illusion that Christians are dull and monochromatic in their views; it’s actually the other way around; there is nothing more narrow and intolerant than an ideological, hard secularist.
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Secularists are indeed very high-browed, aren’t they!
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I’m sorry perhaps I should post a warning when one is not being literal
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