Comments on: Regard their suffering

By: Bianca

Bianca — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:45:50 +0000

I don’t see the issue as men being caregivers. Of course they are, but they’re supposed to care by providing financially for the family. Men are not to be supported by their wives unless they’re incapacitated. God has given husbands and wives different roles.

I really don’t want to sound nasty, but I think it’s really sad that this kind of basic stuff has to be explained Christians. Do we really need to explain to Christians what it means to be a man and what it means to be a woman per creation? I shudder to think what else Christians will have to have explained to them over the next several years.

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By: janie

janie — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:25:25 +0000

Night Train, I think you must have some kind of an issue with men as caregivers. Maybe it’s not what you consider “manly”, but it is very hard work. I applaud Outcast for being willing to do it.

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By: Night Train

Night Train — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 16:10:17 +0000

Night Train, that remark about what Outkast would be doing is of the vicious ad hominem variety.

The more I think about this comment, the angrier I get. First off, Outkast is arguably the worst offender on here when it comes to ad hominem attacks. Second, Outkast and yourself both claim that we are right now in a battle for Western survival with the War on Terror. All that stands between us and the genocidal IslamoFASCISTS (you know, like the Nazis?) are the brave men and women in our military. Osama Bin Laden and his rabid followers are, according to you guys, hell bent on destroying the West and will stop at nothing to do it. And yet Outkast sits at home, blogging on here about doing dishes and making beds, while Sarah Rode goes off to fight the enemy, and even as our military is woefully short of manpower, and has to keep extending tours of duty for those who actually are fighting, and is having real trouble meeting recruiting goals. So where do you get off telling me that Outkast would be in a foxhole in a hypothetical war for American freedom? Because right now, with what you both describe as a war for American freedom actually going on, he’s home making beds and doing dishes, and cheering young ladies as they go off to war.

There’s nothing “vicious” about my post. It’s simply the observable and obvious truth.

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By: Tony Woodlief

Tony Woodlief — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:27:05 +0000

The premise of the Harris book, from what I recall, is a detective trying to solve a crime in Germany, who happens upon the cover-up of the Holocaust, and who therefore tries to get the word out before the authorities run him down. The theme confirms your point of view about Hitler being a universally regarded bad guy less because of his actions than because of his actions combined with the fact that he lost the war. In an interesting twist, the anti-semitic Joe Kennedy (patriarch of the Kennedy clan) is U.S. president, and has tacitly colluded in looking the other way regarding the Holocaust.

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By: Night Train

Night Train — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 15:23:55 +0000

No it isn’t. There’s no reason to suppose that things would be any different than they are today. Outkast, by his own admission, stays home and does dishes and makes bed while his wife it out earning their living. And he finds time to come on here and cheer Sarah Rode and her equally gender bending military career.

Imagine that. A man who lets his wife do the man’s work and support him while he stays home doing the woman’s work cheering a young lady who’s training for combat, and learning how to be a rifleMAN, and dressing like a man, and acting like a man, and leading men, in a military career. That’s sick, Peter. And you know it. You won’t have to worry about ever being in a foxhole with Outkast. Maybe Sarah Rode, but not Outkast. Some serve by fighting in foxholes. Others just watch FOX news.

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By: Peter Leavitt

Peter Leavitt — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 13:22:51 +0000

Night Train, that remark about what Outkast would be doing is of the vicious ad hominem variety. Knowing Outkast on this blog, I should be glad to fight with him in a foxhole in any war.

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By: Night Train

Night Train — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 05:47:07 +0000

There’s an interesting (to me) novel by Thomas Harris, titled Fatherland, set in a post-war Germany which has been victorious. Have you read it?

No, I haven’t. Until quite recently, I read very little fiction. I’ll have to see if it’s that the library. Thomas Harris, huh? Don’t tell me Hitler comes back and starts eating people’s livers with fava beans?

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By: Night Train

Night Train — Sat, 24 Nov 2007 02:18:44 +0000

You’d be doing neither. You’d be home making beds and doing dishes, just as you are now, while your wife went out and did the man’s work.

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By: outkast

outkast — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 23:13:25 +0000

Wow, Night Train, you really stepped in “it” on this thread, didn’t you! Do you really think the only thing Adolph Hitler did wrong was lose a war? And if he had in fact won WWII, do you think we’d be singing Hitler’s praises today — or would we in fact be continuing to fight against his oppressive and murderous regime?

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By: Random Name

Random Name — Fri, 23 Nov 2007 18:45:28 +0000

In regard to Night Train’s comments, the grim science fiction writer Philip K. Dick wrote a science fiction “alternative history” book called The Man in the High Castle describing a world where the Axis won and the west lost.

Could have happened. There’s nothing inevitable about the “good guys” (as we like to think of ourselves) winning and the “bad guys” losing, until afterward, when we say “Wasn’t it brilliant of Eisenhower and MacArthur to win,” and wasn’t it brilliant of Reagan to defeat the Communists. Just like the movies; the good guys won.

I was born in 1944, near the end of World War II. I remember (dimly) the Korean War. Because of my wife having a baby, I was deferred from the Vietnam draft. My father helped put together Strategic Air Command bases to defend us against Russian bombers. Now, near the end of my life, we’re in an endless “War on Terror.” I ride a ferry to work which has been identified (by whomever studies such things) as the number one nautical terror target in the country.

My first guess of how I go will be to have a heart attack like my father. My second guess will be to go in a daze of Alzheimer’s like my mother and an aunt. Guess #3 is an unknown disease. (They run in my family also.) Guess #4 is to go with a bang as I ride the ferry. Made it this morning, though.

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