Jesus freaks
An airplane flight relationship is neatly circumscribed: about four hours from the
Ceil took up the religious digression and added her own trivia: she has a friend who wrote a book about the feminine side of God.
Fine. We moved on to another topic but I didn’t feel good.
I remember when Anne Lamott was a guest on her friend Marty Feldman’s radio program “What Do You Know.” He asked if she was a Christian and she said she prefers to think of herself as a Jesus Freak. I wish I had recalled that somewhere over
As we started our descent I said to my ship-passing-in-the-night friend, “Look, when you asked about the reason for my visit to Washington, I told you I went to speak about the Bible. The truth is I spoke about relationship with Jesus.”
There, I just wanted to apologize about all this.




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You can be “religious.” You can talk about the Bible. You can talk about God. People will smile and nod. They may even give pleasant replies. But, when you say “Jesus,” you’ve thrown down the gauntlet. This is as it should be.
“To the one we are the smell of death; to the other, the fragrance of life. . . “
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When you say that God knew it was trash (Psalm one, …and whatsoever he does shall prosper)what do you mean? Do you mean that you didn’t explain yourself to a stranger as fully as possible? Doesn’t the conversation have to begin somewhere? What do you mean that it was trash?
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Ok, so you prospered when you brought Jesus into the discussion. What was the woman’s response?
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Psalm Singer, If I may venture to answer your question to Andree; When she answered that the topic was the Bible and knew right away that God knew this was trash, she knew that this was a rather vague answer unsatisfactory to the truth. Being Andree she caught this and came up with a more satisfactory answer.
Most of us often in the belly of this secular whale are reluctant to be honest about God’s Word; it is a hard thing to be truthful without being an excessively moralistic prude.
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StuBob
Yes and no. It all depends upon how you approach your attempts to witness. I’ve been a captive audience on a plane with commited fundies who clearly wanted to win me for their crown in heaven (which they of course would then throw down at God’s feet … smacks of pride, doesn’t it?). I’ve also been a captive audience for fundies who had some sense in them and addressed the conversation in a way that was not a smack-down challenge. You can probably guess which ones I spoke with sincerely and which ones I related my entire experience with the Church to and said “thanks much but I’ve heard the three point plan. Wanna argue about inerrancy, next? wanna discuss why an omnipotent God tolerates evil? And while we’re at it let’s throw in free will for good measure.” Throwing down the gauntlet works in war. I know, you are a warrior for Christ, ok but in your warrioring process be careful not to kill the messengee (as opposed to the messenger).
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Peter,
I was talking to Andree.
I don’t think that we can generalize too much about conversations with other people. Sometimes we don’t say certain things because it would be throwing our pearls to the swine, or because the Lord’s servant must not quarrel. Sometimes we are being patient and listening to the other person long enough to find out the best way to communicate to that person. I was asking about this particular encounter, and since you, Peter, were not there, you don’t have the knowledge that I am seeking.
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PsalmSinger, thanks for the gracious comment.
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CB–We don’t disagree. Forget about “witnessing” for a moment. If you were sitting next to Andree on the plane, and she said “I’ve just finished giving a presentation on the Bible,” wouldn’t your visceral response be much different than if she’d said, “I’ve just finished giving a presentation on Jesus”?
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Looks like PsalmSinger needs to read a few more Psalms and come back when he/she can behave more politely. Whoever you are, you make us [Christians] all look bad when you respond so rudely and I, personally, resent it.
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StuBob
Actually my curiousity would get the better of me and I would ask if she had presented on his humanity or on his Godhood or both. Or if I knew she was a psychologist I might be inclined to ask if she thought Jesus’ family had a difficult time dealing with him something like that. Someone saying the name Jesus to me isn’t like the boogeyman and certainly doesn’t lay down a guantlet — unless the person has gone all fire and brimstone preachy. Viserally, because of my upbringing, I don’t hear that much difference between Bible and Jesus. I am likely an exception on that score.
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I have witnessed to people on planes before. I know much how Andree feels, and admire her for her integrity. Coyoteblue, you should try some new arguments if you are wanting to disprove the Christian gospel, the message that Jesus died in YOUR place, demonstating God’s love for you (Rom 5:8), so you wouldn’t have to go to an eternal hell when you die. It’s appointed for man once to die then to face judgment. You might sound clever now, but what will you do when you stand in the prescence of almight YHWH? No more games then. But if Coyoteblue will believe in Jesus the Messiah, you will not perish but have everlasting life (Jn 3:16).
With the thousands of years of testimony to the truth of the Bible’s message, and the personal testimony of millions of believers, the burden of proof is upon you my friend.
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Psalm: Andree does not hang around this blog to respond to questions posed to her on threads, so asking questions of her is pointless.
And being rude to someone (Peter) who attempts to help answer your question is shameful as well.
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I was a 70’s “Jesus Freak” in southern California – had no problem telling anyone and everyone about “Jesus” (not the bible, or the church, etc.). Had long hair and beard (looked the part), etc., and regularly went street witnessing, etc. Converted quite a few!
Unfortunately, I was also a few steps removed from reality.
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Outkast and Peter,
I was actually trying to understand the particulars of the interaction between the two women. I don’t generalize. Thanks for the scoop on Andree.
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Mommy, Outkast, thanks. I pray that PsalmSinger has made a human mistake and is more than a mere righteous moralist.
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Parker,
I have no interest in trying to disprove a matter of your faith.Nor is there a burden of proof upon me to do so. Your faith is between you and God. I thank you for your concern for my soul, and politely note that its status is a matter between me and the Creator. Scare tactics regarding eternal damnation, Parker, are for children and have been used mythologically thousands of years before Abraham. I appreciate that you feel obligated to share with me your version of the good news and you are incorrect to think I will argue it with you.
Your point that there are thousands of years of the sacred book and million of believers is unpersuasive. The same can be said for Judaism, Islam, Buhdism, Hinduism, Wicca and so forth. Are you honsestly suggesting that a person should be swyed just because other people are?
(Apologies to all for the rampant typos)
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Psalm Singer – Back to your original question. God knew Adree’s comment was trash and the Holy Spirit told her so.
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That seems to be a general assumption on your part. I was looking for more real life story telling from the person who was there. It is the difference between Sunday School-type answers, and struggling with real life situations. Real life stories are instructional in a different way than general assumptions. Kind of like Frank Schaeffer’s Crazy For God was instructional.
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