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Sabbaticals from this blog are not allowed
I’m kidding.
Okay, not really.
Okay, I am.
Not.
Am?
Anyway, many of our beloved Regulars have been beseeching Random Name and others not to take their long-planned sabbatical from WMB after the first of the year. Now that the hour of their departure is nearly upon us, please use this thread to explain why they should stay!
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They should stay because we love them. Besides, it could get a little stuffy around here without them. Please, guys?
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Everyone needs a break now and then. If someone wants to take a break he/she should do so.
This strikes me a little like someone who keeps threatening to leave just to get everyone else to cajole him/her into staying.
Stay. Go. Do what you want. Come back when you want, or don’t.
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What KRM said.
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Well of course we love them, but we also need them. Every flag-waving, fundamental evangelical needs their Cyberian radical agnostic to keep them grounded.
We need Anlir because he is more fair and common sensical than most of us. And he needs us until his voice returns; he’s a cool typer:) I vote no to Baton Rouge.
Random predicts if all the atheist/agnostics leave we Christians will turn on ourselves and really have some fights. That’s probably true, but as far as I know Rdean and Night Train will remain loyal until banished.
Oh, and Arcadia’s back! And Flaming Icarus! Maybe they were never gone . . . I miss a lot of things.
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As I have already pleaded with Random:
Don’t leave us!
Those of us in the “minority” on here need his voice, which is witty, reasonable, and sometimes cutting to the chase in a nice way.
I enjoy is writing style, which is distinctive and almost always non-offensive to Christians and non.
But I understand the need for a “sabbatical” from blogging. I had two in 2007, one of which was for almost 4 months. It was a nice break to get away for awhile. It gives you time to think and possibly gain some new perspectives. I would encourage everyone to take a break every now and then.
I know that Random has been desiring of all non-Christians to take a break along with him, to test his hypothesis. But I don’t think that’s realistic or possible given the nature of blogs, which are open to anyone. Alas, I will not be joining him, though I’m sure that will disappoint some of y’all.
Besides, I have an awards show to run the first week of the New Year.
Which brings me to my final point: I want Random to stay around because there is a slight possibility that he might be up for a Golden “Wabby”. I’m not confirming anything at this point, but I’m just sayin’ that word is…
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Adios, for the 15th time, I’m neither an agnostic nor an atheist. Please stop claiming that I am.
And I’d love to know why you think I’ll one day get banned.
KRM has hit the nail on the head. If a 6 month sabbatical is really what one desires, then take a sabbatical already, instead of spending the last 6 months telling us 15 times a day about your upcoming sabbatical.
Some people need/want a sabbatical; others need/want attention so they tell us 15 times a day for six months that they’re going to be taking a sabbatical.
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And some of us need to stop to take on water and coal so we can just keep on chugging along.
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What KRM said and I’m surprised there is concern over the issue. When Christopher Taylor took some time away to pursue his own blog — networdblog.blogspot.com/ — I don’t remember such furor, but then he wasn’t a “minority.”
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Actually, we in the minority are really the majority in the real world?
Gospel = Communism?
Divine Impulses | Harvard chaplain says communism comes closer than the established church to following the radical gospel of Jesus. Watch the video. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2007/12/19/VI2007121900684.html?hpid=topnews
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I took several months off and nobody seemed to notice. hmph.
What KRM said.
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No one likes begging – unless the target is particularly narcissitic. Please don’t beg anyone to stay.
Ditto to what KRM said.
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Stubob,
We did notice but you weren’t here to answer when we asked about you.
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One of the interesting things about a blog is to see all the different personalities. Whether we can help it or not, we all put forth a certain personality on here if we hang around for any length of time.
Some people are unfailing polite, some people harp on one subject, some people are humorous, some people are mean, some people are argumentative, some people contemplative.
And we each have our “pet” issues. Some people are big on science/evolution, some people are big on history, some people are big on faith, some people are big on family, some people are big on themselves
The point is, together it all makes up the WorldMag “family” which is unique, and a pretty good one at that. Random has contributed to that in his own way and we shall be the poorer for his absence.
I should like to take this time to welcome all of our new bloggers who have joined us recently. We are glad you are here and we hope you’ll stay a long time. And if you’re new to blogging, please join us. We would like to hear from you about what you think. It’s easy to join – just pick a Username and have a valid e-mail address. If you need help or have questions about blogging, just ask. Any one of us will be happy to answer your questions.
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I should like to take this time to welcome all of our new bloggers who have joined us recently. We are glad you are here and we hope you’ll stay a long time.
Thanks, Anlir! I’m pretty sure I’ll be here a while.
I was starting to think no one would ever notice me!
Hey! Ask me about my upcoming sabbatical!
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Random Name has already been warned. In his absence, all of Cyberia will have been converted and the children are attending Liberty Uiversity.
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Night Train, you are already a regular, and we have you pegged. But, like so many others, you haven’t posted your bio. That, (I’m including the others here) is really unfair.
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#14: Well, per your username, it’s daylight now, so I’m assuming your sabbatical starts in about 4-5 hours and you’ll be back tomorrow morning?
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Night Train, you are already a regular, and we have you pegged.
True, I have been here for a few months. But this is the first and closest thing I’ve ever gotten to an official welcome, and I just wanted to thank Anlir for doing it.
#14: Well, per your username, it’s daylight now, so I’m assuming your sabbatical starts in about 4-5 hours and you’ll be back tomorrow morning?
I may have time for a post or two in the morning, but that’s all. I play poker on the internet Sun through Wednesday, and on Th/F/S I work a real job.
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Actually, if his username indicates anything, it’s that he’ll be back whenever the really bad hangover wears off.
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But, like so many others, you haven’t posted your bio.
Uh, maybe that’s because I’m NOT bio?
I don’t care what you freaks do in your personal life, but I’m 100% heterosexual.
What a sick, sick world.
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KRM …..
posted:….”This strikes me a little like someone who keeps threatening to leave just to get everyone else to cajole him/her into staying.”
ATTENTION ANYONE?
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Re: #15 (Chas)
That’s good – Liberty University!
. Poor Random. Does he really want that to happen? Think about it Random.
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While it has been a few weeks since I have welcomed our new bloggers, I post a “welcome” at least once a month.
Yes, Night Train is a “regular”. Soon he will be an “old timer”. Life in Cyberia is much shorter than human years.
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Stay. Go. Do what you want. Come back when you want, or don’t.
Well, I see krm took his happy pill this morning. I, for one, want our sabbatical-taking friends to stay.
But if you go, we’ll miss you!
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I did it!
I made Anlir say my name!
WHO’S YOUR WABBY???!!!
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Thanks, Mums. Everyone could use a little validation.
Speaking of which, has Pentamom vanished, or did she pick up a new name? There’s someone here with a similar voice, but I don’t want to out anyone. Well, except Donato, who hasn’t gone anywhere.
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Yes, where is Pentamom?
And CoyoteBlue – we rarely see her in these parts anymore. I miss her.
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I was planning to leave, but have decided to stick around until everyone agrees I’m not Lon.
Remember, we can all visit Random Name at his awesome blog! I have it in my blog bookmarks folder. You should too.
http://modestypress.wordpress.com/
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“I’m not Lon”
I’m not Lon, so don’t forget it
It’s just a silly phase I’m going through
And just because I call you up
Don’t get me wrong, don’t think you’ve got it made
I’m not Lon, no-no
(It’s because…)
Ooh, you’ll wait a long time for me
Ooh, you’ll wait a long time
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I think we need Random Name at his best (when he’s funny or when he puts an argument into perspective), and not Random Name at his worst (when he’s trying to stir up arguments or oversimplifying something). Given a choice between Random and Drill (where is HE?), I’ll take Drill. But this blog needs some people with a sense of humor, so we need Random Name.
But we can always pray for him behind his back….
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Alright, Hamachi2, I know you’re not Lon, but your post made me laugh anyway.
Ah, Lon, gone but not forgotten.
I liked him.
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Pentamom, Jane D, momoffour, many others, do they leave or morph into other characters, or just lurk quietly in the shadows?
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It is a myth, as Random blathers about, that without the agnostics and atheists those with a Christian world view on WOW would fall upon one another. Occasionally when Christians on this blog are not disrupted, they are quite capable of having civil and broad ranging discussions with varying points of view. An example of this would be Andree Seu’s recent threads which, due mainly to her profoundly Christian influence, are an oasis of civility. Other civil Christian blogs would be the Cranach and TouchtoneMag.
What’s happened on this blog is that a gaggle of anti and a few liberal-Christians have lodged themselves on this blog with the effect of distracting most threads. Many of the anti-Christians in both subtle and blatant ways regard what Night Train calls the “evvies” and others call the “fundies” with rather smug disdain.
I fully expect Random Name to find an excuse to back out of his pledge, as he knows well that he gets far more of the attention he craves on this Christian blog than he could ever manage on some agnostic or atheistic blog.
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Guess I took my happy pill, too, because KRM nailed it.
I was planning to leave, but have decided to stick around until everyone agrees I’m not Lon.
What’s clever about this sentence is that it suggests that people should think he isn’t Lon without him actually saying he isn’t.
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Lynn – What?
I enjoy (some of) the guy’s posts, but this is a blog fer cryin out loud! He is free to come or go, and I’m certainly not going to beg or anything.
If he wants to be here, it’s open to him (he is well behaved, so no concerns there). But I don’t want him to feel obligated. It’s not like this is a communtiy service sentence.
I’m been playing here longer than anyone, but if I hit the point of wanting time away, then I’ll take time off. I’ve taken time away from other sites I’ve frequented, and quit going to some entirely.
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I sorta miss Nick Peters. Whatever happened to him?
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Back from another errand. What’s the deal, Lynn? Do you get paid more if you have more posters?
Would it help, then, if we took alternate names and posted twice as often?
I was gone for seven months, once. Did anyone miss me? How would ever I know?
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Many of the anti-Christians in both subtle and blatant ways regard what Night Train calls the “evvies” and others call the “fundies” with rather smug disdain.
As I explained the other day, I sometimes use “evvies” as shorthand for “evangelicals”. Peter Leavitt, on another thread, said that “evvies” is a “vicious” slur.
I swear, Peter. You’re as high strung and tightly wound as some of the gay guys on here.
Vicious? Get a grip.
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My father was a very fine chess player, probably good enough to be a “Master” if he had pursued it.
My brother and I learned the basics, but we did not inherit our father’s talents. He once played us both simultaneously blindfolded (keeping the entire games in his head) and easily beat both of us.
I did learn a bit about the standard “openings” and “gambits” of chess, including the notorious “Fool’s Mate” (the shortest way to lose a chess match and the “Scholar’s Mate” (the second-shortest way to lose a match).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fool’s_mate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scholar%27s_mate
I have several responses to this topic.
1. I like the attention. Now that I’ve gotten this much attention, there is not much reason for me not to take a break for six months.
2. I have noticed that in the average case, when someone stops posting at worldmagblog, their absence is taken for granted very quickly. Within three days no one mentions their absence. I don’t know how long it takes for them be accurately described as “fogotten,” but its probably not very long.
2. As several people have pointed out, Peter Leavitt’s hostile remarks directed at me are at the the very least in contradiction to the stated policies of worldmagblog. As I have pointed out, his continued participation in a forum where he abhors other people’s participation indicates a very confused person.
3. The various topics discussed here are similar to chess openings. I could develop this into an extended essay. Being merciful, I will only make a couple of points, but feel free to stop reading now. For example, point #2 could be described as the Ozymandias Opening.
4. However, Peter has predicted that I will not stay away for six months. (I presume it’s his impression that I will not be able to resist his “warm and fuzzy” denomination of Christian belief and practice.)
This represents Peter’s version in the worldmagblog posting game of the “Fool’s Mate” chess opening.
If I do stay away, he will not acknowledge it or admit that he was in error.
If I point out that I am staying away after I leave, then I am not staying away. Mate!
Of course, others could point it out for me. I presume I would have to pay people to do it for me.
I will make an auction out of it. What is your price to periodically point out to Peter that I am not here? (Not to mention to a few others who have made similar predictions) that I am not here. (Victoria, for example. I have to a admit that as overwhelming and irrisisible as I find her charms, after 42 years of marriage, I am so in the habit of being faithful to my wife, I am afraid I am stuck with it. Call me uxorious if you must.)
Anyway, I am taking bids as follows:
How often and how many times you will point that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOiG1hArSps? How much do you want to be paid for carrying out this serice?
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Two links in the previous post broke.
Here’s one, correct I hope:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fool’s_mate
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NightTrain, you tried to explain it, though it was obvious that you were using “evvies” as a diminutive rather than an abbreviation that would have been written as an abbreviation. You in fact are among the most acerbic anti-Christians on this blog.
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Nope, it can’t deal with the underline. Probably, no one cares, but just in case copy the whole thing and paste or search in Wikipedia.
I’ll try the other
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOiG1hArSps
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Mumsee,
If it’s any consolation, JaneD was Pentamom, so that’s one fewer missing person!
Like many, she took a break and returned, but under a different name, I believe.
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I have an idea. (Sorry!)
We should all list the posters we’d like to see take a sabbatical. That would be much more interesting. Who’s first?
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I think Nick Peters got kidnapped by the Jews.
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You in fact are among the most acerbic anti-Christians on this blog.
Laconic, too!
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Night Train, if you miss Nick Peters, you’ve been around longer than your name.
I kinda worry about momoffour. She was having some problems and just diasppeared. I she may have reappeared yesterday as Psalm Singer, a new person, but I’m not sure.
RN won’t recognize us when he returns. I still think he will at least lurk around. In addition to mumsee’s list, WorthyGirl hasn’t been around lately either. I hate to start naming names, because I surely will miss someone.
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Actually, I’m not an anti-Christian. I’m an ex-Christian, who no longer believes in the religion, but has a lot of respect for it. More respect than many of its followers.
Oh yeah…when you list the people you like to see take a sabbatical, you have to say why you want them to go away.
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Night Train, if you miss Nick Peters, you’ve been around longer than your name.
Chas, get a scorecard. I was on the old version of Worldmagblog.com. So was Nick Peters. I was one of the first posters on the new version, and I complimented them on how much better it looked than the old one. You can check with Lynn, or search the archives.
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I keep seeing references to Jake and Sarah, who, judging by the comments, were evidently friends of Outkast. Has anyone seen them lately?
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Anlir 28-
Excellent suggestion. I just put 10cc on iTunes to sing along. Such a beautiful song. The warmth of it is comforting on such a blustery day. My wind gauge shows a high gust of 52mph, and it’s running steady at around 25-30. I was looking out at the water and the waves are blowing over the front of a big barge as it’s being towed into the wind by a southbound tug. Very dramatic. Like slow motion. Anyway, thanks for the tune selection. I haven’t played it in some time.
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RR in 33.
I have posted this many times in many places. I hope you’re watching and reading very carefully.
I am not Lon. Never have been.
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Random,
In exchange for keeping your “flame” lit while you are away, I want “Super Blogger” status. I don’t know exactly what that entails, but it sounds cool.
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Well, everything that went before on the old WorldMag site as far as identities/blog names is water under the bridge. While we may have some suspicions about certain folk and their blog names, nothing can be proven either way. So we take people at their word and move on from there.
If certain people really annoy you, ignore them. I find it works best and results in a more satisfying experience on here.
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re 50: glad to hear it. (See how easy that was?)
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Random,
Excellent youtube find! I suspect it will be like that if you ever come back for more of Peter’s brand of Christian love.
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Rob, you’re right, the Mossad captured Nick and have started out with water-boarding him. He has confessed trying to lead a faction of WorldMag bloggers in a conspiracy against Israel and that he is a devotee of Pat Buchanan. So far, he has said nothing about his view that the U.S. should withold its three billion a year from Israel’s coffers.
WorldMag bloggers with any heart should start a “Free Nick” movement, though for now I’m afraid they’re a bit distracted with the gushy “Stay Random” cant.
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RR-
LOL! It’s only about the 50th time. Thanks for reading.
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Stay Random!
Stay Random!
Stay Random!
Stay Random!
Stay Random!
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Night Train,
I’m sorry I mentioned you as an atheist or agnostic. When you mentioned that you are neither(way back in #6) it caused me to remember some posts where you mention faith, etc. Many times your opinions are quite different than the mainstream. So I was lumping you in with the more discordant crowd. A very poor excuse on my part for not getting it right. My apologies.
And the getting banned thing, I was just being sarcastic, which apparently wasn’t obvious. There was nothing harsh or offensive intended.
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Cameron 42,
(I didn’t want to say anything in case it was undercover or some such thing).
Worthy Girl got married a couple years ago didn’t she? Maybe she has a life and no time for us but I think she is a lurker with some comments now and then. Or do I have her mixed up with somebody else?
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Please don’t go. Please don’t go. That is all I have time for, but I mean it from the bottom of my heart.
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If Anlir and Hamachitwo were to take a sabbatical I would too.
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H20,
The original 10cc version of “I’m Not In Love” is my favorite, but I do like the dance version by Olive. That’s where I first heard it in a dance club. Then someone told me about the original by 10cc. Very cool song!
I’d give you the 2007 WorldMag “Don’t Tazer Me!” Award for your “I’m not Lon” statement, but it’s already been given out.
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Mumsee,
It seems like someone asked her, and she agreed she was the same person. If it was to incognito, I hereby apologize for spilling the beans!
Not sure about WG’s whereabouts, though…
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Re: #60
And leave our “left” flank un-manned/un-womanned? Not a chance!
Besides, I already took almost 6 months off total this year. I’m good to go for awhile.
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#54 and #56
…gushy “Stay Random” cant.
Stay Random!
Stay Random!
Sorry. Cant.
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Anlir,
I’ve not heard the version by Olive. I’ll look for it. The 10cc version is from when I was a kid. I like it in the dark with headphones on. Try it! The sound swirls ever so nicely… You have to be in the right frame of mind.
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Maybe the solution to this is for Random to go away and bring his compatriots to his own blog. Those WorldMag bloggers interested in his self professed radical agnostic views could then visit his profane blog and report to us Christian rubes the great truths of radical agnosticism.
The problem with this, of course, is that Random would not be able to play his narcissistic role as the court jester among the serious Christian folk. Sic transit gloria mundi.
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H20,
Not to drag this blog off topic, but there are a few songs that are just “hypnotic” to me:
“I’m Not In Love” – 10cc
“Riders on the Storm” – the Doors
“Wicked Game” – Chris Isaak
(the most “hypnotic” song ever to me)
I sure wish WorldMag had a regular blog on music!
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#43
We should all list the posters we’d like to see take a sabbatical.
I’ve been reading a lively scholarly book, Persian Fire by Tom Holland, which I recommend as a good historical read. It dramatically tells the story of the attempts by Persia under Emperor Ahmadinejad to conquer Athens ruled by King Olmert and Sparta controlled by King Ghazi Hamad a couple of thousand years ago.
Ostracism (Greek οστρακισμός ostrakismos) was a procedure under the Athenian democracy in which a prominent citizen could be expelled from the city-state of Athens for ten years. While some instances clearly expressed popular anger at the victim, ostracism was often used pre-emptively. It was used as a way of defusing major confrontations between rival politicians (by removing one of them from the scene), neutralizing someone thought to be a threat to the state, or exiling a potential tyrant. Crucially, ostracism had no relation to the processes of justice. There was no charge or defence, and the exile was not in fact a penalty; it was simply a command from the Athenian people that one of their number be gone for ten years.
[Wikipedia]
Aside from the usefulness of such an idea for worldmagblog, think what a blessing it would be for our national politics. Just think if when we voted for President, we could also cast a ballot for a politician we would like to see banned from American soil (as well as television, radio, and Internet) for ten years!
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I’m amazed you folks find Random polite and on target. His postings display a mastery of furtive, nasty pea-shooterey–has he not openly crowed about how he gets away with insulting Christians because they’re too thick to take his point? Well… did you not get his point? I read him as sort of a senior-center Eddie Haskell.
In any case, I find it ridiculously twee to beg him to refrain from refraining from posting for awhile. It’s not like he’s teetering on a high ledge and you need to convince him not to jump. Or is this a clever way of “love bombing” the man so he’ll convert? If so, sincere good luck with that.
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Kwerna,
You should get a big GOLD STAR for your post, its the best one yet, and true!
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There is a small group on WorldMag who are furious at the presence of non-Christians and liberal Christians on here, and regularly issues “invitations” to them to leave by assorted means.
I’m grateful to Lynn Vincent and her fellow editors for not backing down in the face of their pressure. Kudos to them for their principled stand of welcoming all.
Like the space on Monopoly, we are all “just visiting”. There is only one Warden, and that’s Lynn.
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Anlir 67-
Agreed all around.
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Anlir – 71
Lynn isn’t a “WARDEN” ….. please keep in mind this isn’t a prison –
No one is “FURIOUS” ….. try and calm down -
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Victoria,
I like you and your sense of humor and your understanding of who we are in Him. I look forward to meeting you.
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Victoria,
Sometimes I forget that one has to be quite literal on here lest people misunderstand.
Monopoly – a board game
“Just Visiting” – a space on the Monopoly board (that shares space with the jail)
Lynn – allegorically the “warden” of the “jail” (aka: the WorldMag blog).
Sorry for any confusion.
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Anlir: Like the space on Monopoly, we are all “just visiting”….
This is rich, as you are “visiting” WORLD |On the Web, a sister publication to WORLD magazine that report[s] from a biblical worldview and provide an open forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of religion and culture.
While you claim to be a mere “visitor” you and your anti-Christian compatriots keep up a ubiquitous viewpoint that traduces the Christian world view and supports the pieties of hard-edged secular humanism. Kwerna is exactly right that you and your anti-Christian buddies … display a mastery of furtive, nasty pea-shooterey–has he [Random] not openly crowed about how he gets away with insulting Christians because they’re too thick to take his point? Well… did you not get his point? I read him as sort of a senior-center Eddie Haskell.
The fact is that you are playing a transparent game of trying to gull serious Christians into thinking that you respect them, while in plain fact you disdain them and hope to convert them to the hard edged anti-Christian pro-life and pro gay marriage agenda.
I should guess that not one of you and your anti-Christian buddies subscribe to World Magazine.
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Victoria,
Not to nit-pick, but you missed a fine opportunity to use bold font.
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Peter Leavitt 76,
Well said.
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I, for one, feel “wounded”….
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Anlir – 75
You have FOOLED NOT ONE PERSON on this blog – Play with all the analogies you like, catch up on the ‘latest games’ OR in this case, OLD GAMES, we’ve seen them all before, from one person or another, its always the same -
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#76
Exactly. OPEN FORUM.
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If you really want a Random Name, get one here. They have, as they say, LOTS of them…
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kwerna,
Flattery doesn’t work when it’s laid on too thickly. But thank you.
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HamachiTwo – 77
Nit-pick away, it keeps you busy and entertained, no matter how silly it looks! Use your opportunity’s wisely, they have much more impact if centered for a REAL target -
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One wonders what part of “open forum” Peter Leavitt doesn’t understand?
Actually, I think he understand it well – he’s just furious that I (and others) take advantage of it.
Well, I’m proud to be attacked by Peter and Victoria. I wear that as a badge of honor on here.
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Random Name – 83
ATTENTION
ATTENTION 
ATTENTION, its THICK all right . . . 
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Victoria,
I just happen to expect you to use bold now, and it rather unsettles me when you don’t; especially when presented with such an appropriate opportunity.
You know you’re my favorite, don’t you? Seriously!
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Actually I have thought about disappearing and returning with a different name, as a liberal. Management and Random both recognize that it is differences that make this blog interesting and if all the liberals left it would be less interesting. Since they are in the minority, they are more valued. It’s just a matter of supply and demand. One radical agnostic. Seven or eight conservative Christian SAHM’s.
After awhile I will threaten to leave and see what happens.
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Kbells,
There is no way you could be a credible liberal. I sometimes wonder if Peter Leavitt is a liberal playing a conservative to make them look bad. I suspected that of James too.
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Anlir:One wonders what part of “open forum” Peter Leavitt doesn’t understand? I perfectly understand the meaning of an open forum. Among other things it allows one to express concern that this blog with a Christian worldview has become infested with a gaggle of anti-religious folk who constantly demean evangelical and orthodox Christians and disrupt most threads.
I seriously doubt whether any of the devout Christians on WorldMag blog would venture onto agnostic or atheistic blogs. I don’t object to an open Christian blog but question the good sense, judgment, and manners of the rather virulent anti- Christians, however smarmy, who are patently on this blog to insult serious Christians.
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I don’t think anyone should leave, I enjoy even those I disagree with.
However, there’s been a lot of crankiness around here the past few days. Maybe we all need some sort of holiday. We could take off next Tuesday, for instance, and see if we come back in a better mood.
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Virulent and smarmy.
I like that in my anti-Christians!
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KBells,
We would welcome you to the “dark side of the moon”.
I can say that for myself, it’s been fun being in the “minority” on here. Well, not all of the time, but most of the time. If it wasn’t fun, I’d leave.
I sort of feel like I’m living under a “protectorate” with Lynn as my Governess.
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I would NEVER pretend to have any other beliefs than the ones I BELIEVE IN –
Many people play games on blogs, they play the liberal one month, and the next, change sides and become a conservative, etc. I don’t think that people who play those games have any particular strong beliefs in anything, life is just a ‘game’ to be played –
The Scriptures have something to say about this:
Too much is at stake as a Born Again Believer in Jesus Christ -
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In the history of Christianity, Christians at times killed and tortured each other. There is a discrepancy between the self-regard which many Christians here display toward themselves and their history and the actual facts of their history. Over time, Christians’ behavior toward each other and non-Christians has improved. To the extent that they Christians’ behavior has improved, I congratulate them, as I do for their contributions to civilization (which I think are considerable). To the extent that they whitewash or otherwise “pretty up” or deny their past, I don’t admire them or agree to fluff up their self-esteem and preening.
I don’t apologize for considering Christianity a myth, desperately clinging to opposition to most modern biology and to constant reiteration of ancient texts as undeniably ture.
There is something no quite honest and straighforward going on here. Displacement is a word that comes to mind.
There are obviously substantial disagreements within this community. For example, there is an ostensible invitation for a variety of people and points of view (including non-conservative and non-Christian) to participate, under certain terms of service. Not everyone really agrees with this, but rather than acknowledging these differences (in ways that might or might not pull the wraps off other disagreements that might or might not exist), there is a “papering over” of such differences, and a displacement (as I mentioned) directed against people who do not flatter and fluff over Christian sensibilities as much as they think they should be soothed and admired. Nor can they really admit very honestly how hurt their feelings get.
I have never pretended to be something I am not. For example, I think the attitude of conservative Christians toward homosexuals is disagreeable and shameful, and far in excess of any problems that they may cause in our society.
As coyote blue pointed out else where (and good for her in doing so in a way that seems to be more palatable to some sensitive skins here than my sarcasm), we have problems in our society in regard to marriage and families and how we control and direct sexuality. No matter how much you keep saying these problems are caused by arguments for “gay marriage” (which I don’t even particularly support), you are avoiding much deeper problems with human being beings, problems that 2000 years of prayers have not solved, and for which I doubt you have much of a prayer in the future.
Also, if somebody says, Random ‘gayed’ the thread that’s at least equal to the child who knocked off his parents and then thros himself on the mercy of the court because he is an orphan.
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We’re virulent and smarmy rubes?! Codswallop!!
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I’m on Sabbbatical and I haven’t heard you screaming although I will say, last year I missed Anlir terribly. I so wanted to tell him my New Orleans Po’Girl story and couldn’t. I am sure I will miss my radical Agnostic. I wish I could remember how to wink on here oh well you can use your imaginations.
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I seriously doubt whether any of the devout Christians on WorldMag blog would venture onto agnostic or atheistic blogs. I don’t object to an open Christian blog but question the good sense, judgment, and manners of the rather virulent anti- Christians, however smarmy, who are patently on this blog to insult serious Christians.
We all share a society with many differences of opinion about how it should be run and about how we make decisions. People–Americans and citizens of other countries (whom I don’t consider less valuable or worthwhile regardless of their nationality or ethnic group or religious belief) are dying and suffering.
This is an open forum in which citizens of all beliefs discuss these issues as much as they discuss their religious beliefs. Often they claim their religious beliefs give them a special insight or right to decide these difficult issues.
If you just want to talk about your religion and how wonderful it is, go ahead. Trust me…if that’s all you really want to talk about, most of the people who irritate you will sigh with boredom and leave soon enough.
If you think you have a special right to decide how the country should be run, and want to talk about it, in a public place, and then lament how rude they are to you, and then feel sorry for yourselves because some of them are laughing at you and some of them are disagreeing with you, have a good time.
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“A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. James 1:8″
Few places are as single-minded as Boston. Really.
http://www.boston.com/news/globe/magazine/articles/2006/06/04/single_minded/
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Hamachi, are you in Boston?
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No. Exactly the opposite! My cousin, Peter Leavitt lives there though.
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Among other things it allows one to express concern that this blog with a Christian worldview has become infested with a gaggle of anti-religious folk who constantly demean evangelical and orthodox Christians and disrupt most threads.
1. The use of the word “infested” is quite pejorative and uncivil. It makes one wonder if the writer is truly interested in dialog, or insults.
2. It assumes that Christians are the rightful “heirs” to this site, and those who are not Christian are invading it in some way.
3. It is not automatically “disrupting” a thread to disagree with the prevailing Christian view. It all depends on how one does so.
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I seriously doubt whether any of the devout Christians on WorldMag blog would venture onto agnostic or atheistic blogs.
1. That’s irrelevant to WorldMag’s policy of being open to all.
2. Other blogs may not have the same “open door” policy. That’s their prerogative.
3. It’s an opinion, unless backed up by some quantifiable proof. The world of blogging is vast and varied.
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I don’t object to an open Christian blog but question the good sense, judgment, and manners of the rather virulent anti- Christians, however smarmy, who are patently on this blog to insult serious Christians.
I’d say the the number of “insulters” is vastly over-rated by the writer. To be sure, there are a couple (on both sides). The vast majority of Christians and non-Christians on here are good, decent folk.
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“The vast majority of Christians and non-Christians on here are good, decent folk.”
Amen.
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Random This is an open forum in which citizens of all beliefs discuss these issues as much as they discuss their religious beliefs. Often they claim their religious beliefs give them a special insight or right to decide these difficult issues.
You elided the point that World on the Web is a sister publication of World Magazine that reports from a Christian World view and that it is open forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of religion and culture.
Christians don’t claim any special right to decide difficult issues, though we do insist on our right to debate these issues in the public square.
You delude yourself in imagining that we Christians cannot carry on an interesting and wide-ranging discussion of the issues of the day; further Christians in terms of charity and mission work are familiar with realities in our country and the world. Any study of giving places religious people far in front of the liberal chattering class.
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Aw, go Google yourself!
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Peter Leavitt at #90: You’ve made very clear many times that you’d prefer to be in a forum open to Christians only so you need not be troubled by having to hear other points of view.
May I respectfully suggest you go find one and stop griping here.
The policy of this blog is that all view points are welcome, so long as they are polite, respectful and pertain to issues, not personal attacks.
As such, those of us who are not Christains have not “infested” this blog, and are not “smarmy” or even, for the most part, “anti-religious.” (I am religious myself, just not Christian.)
The few who have not lived up to the blog’s policies have been banned, and rightly so. The rest of us are welcome to be here.
If you don’t like it, you have a very simple remedy available to you: Find a blog that does not have the open-door policy.
Otherwise, I suggest you get used to it.
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Let Random do whatever he likes. If he’s entertained by thinking his departure has attritional, then have at it….
I’m entertained by his constant declamations, and occasional reasonable summation of an issue, and so will miss him, if only slightly. He seems to be one of a few that can really back up from an issue, see both sides, and reasonably sum it up, all without leaving his own opinion behind.
Have fun on your sabbatical. It will be interesting to see if you are correct….
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That should have read: “attritional value”
Gahhhh!
WHERE’S PREVIEW!!!
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I tend to disbelieve the conception that if all the non-Christians left this blog that the Christians would fight among themselves. With that being said, wouldn’t it be slightly dull if all the non-Christians left this blog? There wouldn’t be very many people left to argue or debate. There would be some, but the issues would be a lot less.
RN, you said “In the history of Christianity, Christians at times killed and tortured each other.”
Well, I like history, especially certain periods of time, like the American Old West and a few other eras, but I must say, I have not heard of Christians in history killing and torturing each other. So would you mind posting a documented case of that for me? Also, it depends who you call Christians. If you say Roman Catholics, Mormons, Jehovah’s Witnesses’, and any other religious group are all included in the name “Christians”, that isn’t really fair to some of the others who are Reformed, for instance. (although I am not)
That’s because they’d say “you’re lumping us all together. Their sect might have done that, but it doesn’t mean ours did.” Everybody should be careful not to commit the error/logical fallacy of hasty generalization, which, unfortunately, many do.
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~~~WARNING: Self-pity party ahead~~~
Alas, I feel like my name has been hijacked at times. For over two years I was the only Peter L here. Then a few months ago the former Solon started using his real name, that happens to be Peter Leavitt, another Peter L. Someone initially thought he and I were one in the same, an insult to him to be sure. At any rate, now I read responses to him, and think it is my name, though I know I did not say what they say I said. I am wondering if I should take my moniker and leave it for another. Perhaps I should start calling myself Solon. I thought of switching to my middle name, but another has used it a time or two.
All my life I have known very few people blessed with my name (though when young I thought it was a curse every time I heard a certain nursery rhyme about some guy and pumpkins). Here, on WMB there have been at least 4 others with the name Peter: Peter E, Peter S, Peter V and Peter Leavitt. I first posted as Peter, but another posted with that name, so I added my initial. Now another Peter L.
Alas, what am I to do? I think I’ll take a one week sabbatical and see if I am missed. But then, everyone else will be on holiday too, so no one will know. Sigh!
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Rio,
There have been many historical examples of Christians fighting Christians. In the fourth crusades a Christian army attacked and sacked the Christian city of Constantinople. Even in modern times Ireland has had a lot of fighting between Protestants and Catholics.
The fact that Christians have fought throughout history just goes to show us that people can pervert the faith for their own selfish gains.
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Victoria, Joking.
Hamcih, I did minor in theater.
Anlir, been there, didn’t like it.
If all the liberal, non-believers left what would we argue about? Let see infant baptism, predestination, mega churches, eschatology, worship music. Oh my gosh, worship music! There are people on this blog who will scratch your “i’s” out if you say you like the wrong kind of worship music.
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KBells,
I enjoy your perspective. Please stay as genuine as you are. Really.
You did forget one argument alluded to in post 109. What is a Christian. Some don’t wish to include all the sects who follow Jesus, unless of course it is to claim the United States as a Christian Nation.
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#111,
Rio has suggested Catholics cannot be called Christians, at least by some. I was halfway through his request for suggestions when the tar and feathering of the Mormon leader by Missouri Christians came to mind. Alas, the Mormons are tossed out with the Catholics, so neither is acceptable Christian on Christian persecution. Is this really a Christian Nation if most of the people who identify as Christians are not considered Christians by the Christians who declared themselves more Christian and decide who is Christian enough to be called a Christian?
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I would have wholeheartedly endorsed appeals that folks like Porcell, Christopher Taylor, Ed Jordan, Jane D, Lydia, Bert Perry and several others remain here. I learned much from them, and contrary to RN’s contention, had my mind changed on more than one occasion as a result. This one, not so much. Admittedly, this is an entirely subjective opinion. Apparently, I’ve not yet acquired a sufficient taste for narcissistic frisson.
Regards,
SG
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Well, I’ve got a short break, so I’m going to add my two cents. I like having the non-Christian input on this blog because I like to see what the other side is feeling and saying. It helps me seek on data for Apologetics. However, I treasure the sweet Christians as well; especially when heart matters are raised. Sometimes I am a little chagrined when I see a post from a Christian that has some thorns wrapped around the thought expressed (after all, a soft word turneth away wrath). Nevertheless, most times I understand the pique the Christian posters feel as well.
As for Random, I will miss his non-sequitors and silliness. I will mourn briefly and then move on.
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No sabbaticals allowed, huh? I’d better start improving my actitude around here!
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#111
I tend to write quickly while in the middle of other things, and thus make many hasty errors.
I have mixed up names and people while posting here. I have been conscious of different Peters posting (pickled peppers, etc.) and tried not to get them mixed up. If I offended you advertently or inadvertently I apologize. I have no quarrel with you.
I think.
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#117
This is serious.
Let me point out the great war of the Sequitors and the Non-sequitors in 1317. Many people died dreadful deaths for departing from the topics of the time.
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#110
I am short of time and at an inconvenient location at the moment.
So, this is a very brief, off the top of my head answer.
First, after the Protestant Reformation, Catholics and Protestants fought wars and killed each other. Were one of those groups not Christians?
Second, in the English “Civil” war the “High Church” of the King fought the “Low” church of Cromwell. The war was quite bloody. Were the high church people not “real” Protestants, but Catholics in disguise?
Third, although the body count was low, there are documented cases, I believe, of Puritans killing Quakers in New England. Were either group not Christians?
When Roger Williams did not preach in Massachusetts as the the Puritans thought he should, the Puritans were going to ship him back to England. I admit this is a bit of a stretch, in part because I like Roger Williams so much, and he died old in his bed, but if he had not fled to Rhode Island (where the “savages” provided refuge), his fate as an “extradited” colonist might have involved torture and or death.
If you have the patience for it, and wade through his Bloody Tenant, Roger Williams was a man who lived at a time when Christians tortured and killed each other. He was a bit down on the whole business, but he was a bit of a crank, I admit.
(It takes one crank to recognize another.)
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This will likely be my final post on this matter, seeing as how it feels like a horse that’s been “beat to death” as they say.
The reason I am so passionate about the issue of “inclusion” is because I have always been for the little guy, the marginalized, the people who are different in some way. Growing up as a minority, I know what it’s like to feel excluded, to feel like you will never fit in.
I also don’t like mean people and bullies. We have our share of those on here, and they come from all sides, Christian and non. I know what it’s like to be mistreated, to be picked on, to be bullied. Those are terrible things to do to other human beings. As distasteful as it is, sometimes you have to stand up to the bullies.
But I also know that the vast majority of people on here are decent and kind. Those are the people that I like to engage with. May their tribe increase. And may we all be more kindhearted toward each other.
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As usual, DCL, misses the point about Christianity by telling us about the political theory of communism. So, let me tell him again, the Gospel is not about politics, it’s not about government. It’s about salvation, and communism can’t give him that.
I don’t know the purpose in announcing a sabbatical or threatening one. Perhaps those who wish to go think the blog won’t go on without them. It’s not as if we’re on the Titanic here, my friends. We can all be replaced in a lot of ways without causing too much of an upset. There are probably readers who have not posted, and I submit they will fill the void.
We will miss those who go, but as KRM says, do it or don’t. It’s your life.
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Michelle writes: Back from another errand. What’s the deal, Lynn? Do you get paid more if you have more posters?
No, but I am trying to qualify for the toaster oven.
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Kwerna writes: furtive, nasty pea-shooterey
You watch your language, young lady!
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Random and One Last Breath,
You both make some very good points.
I am not going around saying which denominations, groups or sects are considered Christians or not, neither am I going to attack anyone because of their religion. I’m just saying that some (not all) people believe that some of those religious groups are not true Christians.
A point they make may be that several of those, like Mormons and Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t rely solely on the Bible, but have their other books which they believe to be equally inspired.
As I have just pointed out the opinion of a few,
although it may be a controversial subject,
I don’t think I am considered dangerous enough for a lynch mob to come after me or someone to (attempt to) assassinate me. (yet)
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RN and the rest,
Christians may have killed each other in history, ignoring the different denomination thing,
but you can’t judge the majority based on a few,
and often the religion was just a sort of cover-up for the political motives. The Protestants and the Catholics in England, for instance.
Both wanted the throne, and the power that accompanied it. Religion was only part of the issue. In the other cases, like in the Crusades, the destruction and devastation was prevalent,
and since it was war, the knights accomplished a lot of damage in the process of Crusading.
Part of it may have been when some of the different nations’ armies squabbled with each other, the French and English, for example, but that’s only one possibility.
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RN, I like Roger Williams, and don’t particularly admire the Puritans. Many tend to disagree with me and say that the Puritans were the highmark of Christianity and that they just went a little overboard in what they did. They might be correct, but I just point out that the very things the Puritans moved to America for (i.e. Religious freedom) they eventually withheld from others after they had established their community. The very reason that Roger Williams had to flee to Rhode Island. Then there were the Salem Witch Hunts, but I am not going to go into detail because all of you probably have heard of those already, and I don’t go condemning different religions, denominations, etc. if it can be helped. My defense of the history of Christianity has been put forth. I now have my opinion and will hold my stance against all comers.
Amen.
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Kwerna’s thoughts nail this topic. ’m amazed you folks find Random polite and on target. His postings display a mastery of furtive, nasty pea-shooterey–has he not openly crowed about how he gets away with insulting Christians because they’re too thick to take his point? Well… did you not get his point? I read him as sort of a senior-center Eddie Haskell.
In any case, I find it ridiculously twee to beg him to refrain from refraining from posting for awhile. It’s not like he’s teetering on a high ledge and you need to convince him not to jump. Or is this a clever way of “love bombing” the man so he’ll convert? If so, sincere good luck with that.
The Eddie Haskell bit and the lovely use of “twee”mark this blogger as tres talented.
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Okay, what is a “twee”?
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It’s something you can hang Cwistmas decowations on this time of year, silly.
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I will first of all point out that I didn’t start this topic.
Second, in terms of the history of Christianity and its good points and bad points and the history of secular reformism and its good points and bad points.
The good and bad points of Christian history are complicated. As pointed out, some of the bad things that happened were probably more a result of politics and power struggles than truly a result of the religious belief.
I don’t really consider myself a “leftist” (I have to say this over and over again). It is probably more accurate to call me a secular person who does not find meaning or direction in revealed religion.
I don’t think that the essence of what went wrong with Communism was atheism. There are leftist “social welfare” states such as Scandinavia and Holland that probably don’t rate the description “evil” in the same way as the Communist countries of the past (Soviet Union, etc.) and present (North Korea, Cuba, maybe Venezuela on the way there).
You may not like the social welfare states or think they work well, but that’s not the same as evil.
My main point is that an advocate of either leftist politics should start with acknowledging where it went very wrong. The examples I used in the past, still valid, I think, were Orwell and Camus.
By the same token, an advocate of Christianity should acknowledge where it went wrong. It’s not unfair to say That wasn’t real Christianity or typical of Christianity, but such distancing shouldn’t be whitewashing or evading.
The two examples for me are Roger Williams (in the past) and Gary Wills in the present, one an eccentric Protestant and one an eccentric Christian.
I am sorry this post is so labored, but I find it difficult to write about these topics here because the slightest “opening” for criticism seems to bring a deluge of nitpicking. My nits are picked raw. Anybody got a good brand of nit salve to recommend?
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BTW, that’s a lovely sweater you’re wearing, Mrs. Vincent.
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Mumsee. “Twee is a derogatory term in that something or someone is twee, meaning old fashioned, old hat, out of date, very uncool.
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I am not sure exactly what is the proper definition of good manners is for people who disagree with each other strongly.
I would use TJ and Cameron as examples of good manners among (a variety of) people who mostly disagree with me about religion, history, and philosophy. They are not responsible for my praising them, but I figure they can defend themselves reasonably well even though I didn’t ask their permission to use them as examples.
I am going to try and role play what I would consider to be an example of good manners in saying good bye to a non-conservative, non-Christian, very sarcastic person.
Dear Random,
I do not agree with your values and opinions. I do not think your contributions to worldmagblog have been useful or helpful. I am glad you are leaving. I hope you do not come back. I have my doubts you will really stay away, and I will have a good time pointing out your hypocrisy and lack of self-control if you do come back.
I would consider that a reasonable critical comment addressed to me and after about five minutes walking around away from me computer (my usual way of dealing with a negative comment aimed at me), I think I would make a polite acknowledgment and then forget about it.
Check you own mileage.
Twee–t. (I think a saw a putty tat.)
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Actually, emphasis on the cutsie-poo–
Dictionary:
“Affectedly dainty or quaint: twee writing about furry little creatures.
[Origin: 1900–05; appar. reduced from tweet (perh. via pron. twiʔ), mimicking child's pron. of sweet]
Overly precious or nice”
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Thank you, when I first saw it, I thought it was a typo but could not figure what could fit. Makes much more sense, depending on whose definition. Probably not the ornament one.
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Random, thanks for the twee lesson on manners.
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TRR: “It’s something you can hang Cwistmas decowations on this time of year, silly.”
I am laughing sooooo hard here. Thank you. TRR
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Night Train: I’ve never received an official welcome either, but I don’t think that’s a regular feature. You just sort of ease into the family. People kinda know you, your responses to controversial topics may be predictable but you surprise people sometimes, you make a few blog-buddies, develop some inside jokes, and get comfortable. I hope you haven’t taken the lack of official welcome as a snubbing.
I notice you’re here, and I’m glad you are. And you are most unofficially welcomed!
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KevinB,
Allow me to be the first to offer you the official welcome to our little family. The paperwork authorizing me to do so seems to have been lost in the mail but you can trust me. Now I will tell you the only rule. You must be fifty to post on anything because if you are any older or any younger, we don’t care. Make yourself comfy.
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Wow, Mumsee, thanks for cluing me in. The only thing that worries me is that after 270 more days nobody will pay attention to me any more. Doesn’t that make you a little uncomfortable?
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Mumsee,
I was NEVER officially welcomed, in fact, I was told to leave – how did that happen? I’ve been pondering this for some time ……
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KevinB,
Not in the least because I happen to know that it is in the works to adjust the rule and as of Sept 13 next year, only 51 year olds will be allowed to post. You may have to be silent for a few days. Get over it.
Victoria,
Let me be the first to offer you the official hand of welcome to our little family. The paperwork authorizing me… etc. And the only rule you need to be aware of is the one that says only people who type in bold may be listened to with the exception offered to fifty year olds who have never bothered to learn how to type in bold.
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Thank you Mumsee, for your kind welcome, to the blog of UN-BOLDERS ….
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Mumsee, what are you and your big family doing for Christmas?
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Eldest son is coming down from Canada and has turkey duty. Second is coming in with wife and son from Florida. First daughter is coming up from Boise. Third son is going from New Mexico to California to get married. Fourth son is going to learn that my patience will run out if he cannot find something positive to entertain himself. Second and third daughters and fifth son have been busily baking cookies and candies and tree decorations. Finally, we will get together in celebration of our Savior’s birth, the event setting in motion the final years before His death and resurrection. Tonight the youngest three and I had a very in depth discussion on the value of works. That they are done in response to salvation, not as steps in salvation. And the differencce between the demons who believe and tremble and the saints who believe and are saved. And why it is so important to treat others as He treats us.
What are you folks doing down there in sunny California?
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Well, I have never issued formal welcomes to individuals, so I hope no one feels slighted. The “welcomes” have always been generic, due to the large number of people who come and go.
In any event, I welcome KevinB, Mumsee, and Victoria to the WorldMag blog. May your stay be prosperous and long.
I’m sort of the one-man “Welcome Wagon” on here. I would welcome helpers in that regard.
We want this site to grow by bringing in new people. We want them to join in the conversation instead of just reading the posts. So we want to make it easy and comfortable for a new person to join.
One of the things that a new person can do is identify themselves, let us know you’re new, and tell us a little bit about yourself.
I’m sure that some people reading this blog are thinking that this blog is a clique, where every one knows each other. First, we’re not a clique. We want you to know that the circle is open for you to join. Second, we do know each other, some better than others. But that has come from spending time on here getting to know each other. If you join us, we will get to know you too.
So don’t be shy – jump right in!
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Okay, where is it? There used to be a thing that told us how to do all that fancy stuff and now, when I finally wanted to write something in bold, to say you are welcome to Victoria, I can’t find it. Who is in charge of housekeeping around here? Oh, never mind, I probably don’t want to know. You are most welcome Victoria 145.
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I notice you’re here, and I’m glad you are. And you are most unofficially welcomed!
Thanks, KevinB!
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Mumsee – 147
You have one busy household – Your Christmas sounds wonderful, and cozy –
Our home is decorated with tree’s, candles, Nativity, nutcrackers, it’s wonderful. I love all the Christmas music we have been listening to, it warms the soul with all the love God has bestowed on us, by sending His Son to be born so long ago. We are having lamb for Christmas dinner, its one of our favorites.
Here is your lesson for BOLDING
message, etc remember, NO SPACES between the symbols.
I hope I don’t get in trouble for showing you….LOL, well I seem to do that without even trying.
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Mumsee, I made spaces and it still bolded – OK, here is another try going down the page –
Message
Hope this works – symbols together on either side of message -
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Nothing works – Sorry
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Mumsee: I finally wanted to write something in bold, to say you are welcome to Victoria, I can’t find it
You have to manually use the HTML code now.
Type WITHOUT THE SPACES in front of what you want to bold and ALSO WITHOUT THE SPACES at the end. (I use the spaces so that the system won’t interpret this as a code tag, which it will once you take the spaces out.)
So if you wanted to write:
A big thank you to Joe Bob!
You’d write:
A big thank you to Joe Bob! … without the spaces between the angle-brackets and the b’s.
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Heh … ok, it doesn’t notice the spaces.
Use the angle bracket to close the tag. That all goes in front of what you want to make bold.
To turn the bold off, do the same thing at the end except add a / in front of the b.
You can do italics the same way, using i instead of b.
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OK, I almost give up.
Use ,b. to open the tag, except use the SHIFT key to get the angle brackets instead of , and .
And the same at the end, but add the /
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WITHOUT THE SPACES IN FRONT OF WHAT YOU WANT TO BOLD you are welcome, Victoria ALSO WITHOUT THE SPACES
Angle brackets??????? HTML code???????? Tag???? What are you talking about SteveG?
you are welcome, Victoria
youarewelcome,Victoria
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I did it!!!!
Thank you SteveG!!!!
But that was a lot of work and remembering, best write it down on my Spanish card.
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MUMSEE, you did it –
WELCOME to the Victoria in BOLD CLUB!
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Thank you, Victoria, and it is written down so watch out world!
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Mumsee is now BOLD
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Soon to come from The Subtle Press: THE ALL UPPER CASE BOLDLY ITALIC BIBLE!
Too bad we can’t underline and strikethough as well in our messages, not to mention put every character in a different color and font, like a Ransom Note.
Instead of just saying I was going to leave, I should have posted a ransom note, demanding $5,000 to leave the good Christians of World in peace.
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ATTENTION:
Only twelve more days, 12 count them – 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 left to send your Goodbye Cards –
You can give these SPECIAL GREETINGS:
“sorry to see you go” – “have a good vacation” – “hope you have fun” – “don’t get sunburned” – “don’t get sea sick” – “read if you get bored” –
Since it will be SUMMER when you ‘KNOW WHO’ returns, you can add “I will wish you a HAPPY WINTER and a HAPPY SPRING, see you next SUMMER!
VICTORIA in BOLD
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But somebody will have to put out the italics directions first
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Mumsee, instead of using the b you use i – then you will have italics -
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clever What other mysteries lie buried in the depths of this laptop?
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Buried deep within the tangled web of the computer are SECRETS
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What is it that you wish to know?
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Victoria the Bold is an awesome lady.
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I just watch and wait to find out what I don’t know, how would I know what I don’t know if I don’t know what I am missing? Then, if it appeals to me and I have the time, I ask.
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Peter Leavitt, I hope you have a wonderful CHRISTMAS -
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Victoria; That’s a very cute christmas tree!
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Hey, i have a question. Who are we trying to convince to stay? I’m kind of confused…
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“It’s something you can hang Cwistmas decowations on this time of year, silly.”
*Silly*
My word is spreading contagiously…
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Liz – 173
Thank you, I’m glad you like it.
Merry CHRISTMAS!
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#174,
Nobody I know, Liz. I wish you a Merry Christmas!
I won’t try to draw you a twee, however, though I will go out with a chain saw later today and cut down a hemlock for my wife to decorate today.
Victoria, I wish you a Merry Christmas as well, as bold as you want!
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