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The Santa Clause?
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You got it kBells. I love that movie!
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Me, too.
Think I’ll watch it soon.
Good morning, all.
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I love Christmas stories. I’ve recorded a bunch of movies and TV Specials for my son. We have “Rudolph”, “the Grinch, “Charlie Brown”, “Santa Claus is coming to town”, “Polar Express”, “The Santa Clause, one and two, “A Christmas Story” and “A Christmas Carol” (too intense for him right now). But I can’t find “The Little Drummer Boy”.
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I received this e-mail twice today. Once from my sister, another from her husband. I really enjoyed it. (Hope this works. I had a little trouble cutting and pasting. The cursor jumps.)
An exchange between Winston Churchill
and Lady Astor: She said, “If you were my husband, I’d give you poison.” He said, “If you were my wife, I’d take it.”
Gladstone, a member of Parliament, to Benjamin Disraeli: “Sir, you will
ether die on the gallows or of some unspeakable disease.”
“That depends, sir,” said Disraeli, “On whether I embrace your policies or your mistress.”
“He had delusions of adequacy.” – Walter Kerr
“He has all the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire.” – Winston Churchill
“A modest little person, with much to be modest about.” –
Winston Churchill
“I have never killed a man, but I have read many obituaries with great
pleasure.” – Clarence Darrow
“He has never been known to use a word that might send a reader to the dictionary.” – William Faulkner (about Ernest Hemingway).
“Poor Faulkner. Does he really think big emotions come from big words?” – Ernest Hemingway (about William Faulkner)
“Thank you for sending me a copy of your book; I’ll waste no time reading it.” – Moses Hadas
“He can compress the most words into the smallest idea of any man I know.” – Abraham Lincoln
“I didn’t attend the funeral, but I sent a nice letter saying I approved of it.” – Mark Twain
“He has no enemies, but is intensely disliked by his friends.” –
Oscar Wilde
“I am enclosing two tickets to the first night of my new play; bring a Friend…. if you have one.” – George Bernard Shaw to Winston Churchill
“Cannot possibly attend first night, will attend second… if there is one.”
- Winston Churchill, in response.
“I feel so miserable without you; it’s almost like having you here.”
- Stephen Bishop
He is a self-made man and worships his creator.” – John Bright
“I’ve just learned about his illness. Let’s hope it’s nothing trivial.” -
Irvin S. Cobb
“He is not only dull himself, he is the cause of dullness in others.” -
Samuel Johnson
“He is simply a shiver looking for a spine to run up.” – Paul Keating
“There’s nothing wrong with you that reincarnation won’t cure.”
- Jack E. Leonard
“He has the attention span of a lightning bolt.” – Robert Redford
“They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge.” – Thomas Brackett Reed
“In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily.” -
Charles, Count Talleyrand
“He loves nature in spite of what it did to him.” – Forrest Tucker
“Why do you sit there looking like an envelope without any address on it?” – Mark Twain
“His mother should have thrown him away and kept the stork.
- Mae West
“Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.”- Oscar Wilde
“He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts… for support rather than illumination.” – Andrew Lang (1844-1912)
“He has Van Gogh’s ear for music.” – Billy Wilder
“I’ve had a perfectly wonderful evening. But this wasn’t it.”
- Groucho Marx
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They are all funny, but Mae West’s caught me by surprise. lol
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I’ve posted one of my favorites before:
“I’ve never hated a man enough to give his diamonds back.” Zha Zha Gabor
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Chas,
I hope everyone posts a funny one today. I love the clever use of words!
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My wife is intimidated by big trucks, and the computer. She won’t even check mail unless I’m close by. Some of us are intimidated by silly things. I was thinking about this event last night.
Last Friday, we were at the mall in Columbia. I was waiting for Elvera to do some shopping, and I was wandering about the mall. I stopped in front of a Starbucks and thought of going in for some coffee. Then, I thought nahhhhhh, and went to the food court.
While drinking my coffee from Chick-fil-a, it occurred to me, “How stupid is this?” How can I be intimidated by the little girl in Starbucks.
I know, some of you told me how to get a regular cup of coffee in Starbucks, but I still felt inadequate. Such a silly thing.
I’m wondering if anyone else is intimidated by something which, if we think about it, is rediculous.
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One of my husband’s favorite insults is, “He is clearly educated beyond his intelligence.”
I think he got that from Jerry Clower.
Things that intimidate me. Foreign words. I have a bad ear and a poor memory and I am sure I will accidentally call someone’s mother a frog or something, if I try to speak a foreign language.
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I was told this Churchill story by an English comp teacher in college. I sure hope it’s true:
During WW2, Churchill received a report that had been prepared by a low-ranking officer, but hastily edited by a higher-ranking officer before the great man saw it. It seems the original writer had ended a sentence with a preposition.
The report was sent back to its writers, with the following note in the margin next to the edit: “This is just the sort of grammatical flummery up with which I will not put.”
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Intimidation, for me: going into a store to claim an item that was advertised as free with no other purchase necessary, without buying something else.
Silly, I know. My wife, brazen as she is, will march right in for the freebie and present it to the cashier without the slightest shame.
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Zsa Zsa also claims to be a great housekeeper. Every time she leaves a man she keeps his house.
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“When you come to a fork in the road, take it.”
–Yogi Berra
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I’m intimidated by having to call someone on the telephone, especially someone I don’t know. I have no trouble answering the phone, but I hate making the call myself. I’m generally relieved when I end up with voicemail and I can just leave a message instead of having to talk to someone, though I still get flustered and end up getting my words mixed up and forgetting whether I’ve given my name and number. I don’t know if I get flustered that way because I’m so uncomfortable on the phone, or if I’m uncomfortable on the phone because I know I get flustered.
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I knew the quote, but at the time it was posted I was sitting in a minivan on the side of the interstate waiting for someone to come and pick me up. Right now, I don’t even want to call a tow truck! Just let the van sit there till the first snow and I know someone will slide into it (that stretch of interstate is infamous for wrecks in bad weather). I am so frustrated!! New fuel pump in Sept while on vacation. Anti locking brake system two weeks ago. My present to my husband will not be bought to pay the tow truck charges. I do not like this, Sam I am!
I also know this is the day the Lord has made and by His grace I can choose to rejoice in it. I just want to enjoy my pity party a little longer
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Deb, a good time to remember, “this too will pass.” I sympathize with your frustration. No fun to have that happen.
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Thanks! I appreciate the encouragement. I know it will pass and I’m thankful we have car troubles instead of other kinds of problems. Trying to figure out rides for kids to get to work –
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For those who need something to ignore to make their day:
CHRONICLES OF CYBERIA #11E
Dreary Wheel Full Employment drearily continued)
Although the DrearyWheel organization is designed to run as simply and non-managed as possible, it does require a few supervisors and technical maintenance people. As it promotes from within, it does offer modest upgrade paths for people who wish to improve themselves slightly while still keeping to the simple DrearyWheel life style.
Because DrearyWheel bicycles are so boring and dreary, they do not disrupt normal business operations. Cyberia still contains regular bicycle manufacturers who manufacture sexy, stylish, feature-laden bicycles for sale, entertainment, competition, status rivalry, etc. DrearyWheel does not impact their business.
Of course, DrearyWheel does cost Cyberia some money to subsidize; however, it not only reduces most of the need for welfare, it modestly reduces air pollution, fuel consumption, and traffic crowding, as well as encouraging a bit of exercise. As they say in Cyberia, Not Bad.
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CYBERIAN CALENDAR: JAN 4
Don’t.
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Random – Thank you. I’m busy today, so I was hoping to be able to ignore something.
Chas – I am easily intimidated by stupid stuff. But I think I’m getting better, at least a bit.
I’d be intimidated by the Starbuck’s girl, or guy, too.
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Does anyone know where to find an online video, or other form of info, which refutes the video about the Sept. 11 attacks being an “inside job”?
My older daughter recently saw that one, & thinks it seems convincing. I’d like her to see something refuting it, to have the info to make up her mind.
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Karen O,
A quick GoodSearch (rather than Google) pulls up this one: http://911research.wtc7.net/reviews/loose_change/index.html
I know there are few more out there–I’ll keep looking.
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Knew there was another one:
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/military_law/1227842.html
Anything searched with “loose change” and “popular mechanics” will net what you’re looking for. There are others in this search range if two aren’t enough.
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There is a great article in page 8 of Machine Design (dec 13) by the editor Leland Teschler.
The most interesting paragraph:
In fact, therre are “substantially more” scientists and engineers graduating in the us than there are jobs. Most suprising, kids coming out of US secondary schools do not lag far behind comparable students in economicalloy competitive countries when it comes to science and math.
The research came from the Rand Corp, Harvard University, the National Bureau of Economic
Research and Stanford University.
It’s a fairly long article. The conclusion is, “not to increase the supply of engineers and scientists, but to increase the demand for them”.
Of course, with so many jobs going overseas, I suspect that is where many will end up. I have a friend who is moving to Germany and another one moving to Portugal of all places. One of our service engineers was just offered a job in Korea.
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I was at Wal-Mart yesterday and saw a new book from Joel Osteen called Become A Better You.
Wow.
A better Night Train?!
Is such a thing even possible?
You know what book I’ll be reading at B&N this weekend!
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Karen, here are a few other sites debunking the 9/11 conspiracy myths:
http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr
http://www.911myths.com
http://www.debunking911.com
http://www.loosechangeguide.com
http://www.loosechangeguide.com/LooseChangeGuide.html
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Here are a few videos to watch (some are interviews with the production staff of “Loose Change” — very revealing, imho). Also, I think one of those websites above (the first, maybe?) will link you to a series of YouTube videos that will play “Loose Change” and break down the errors (stopping the tape each time) point by point.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7tMHMQ863Q (Hardfire Program 1 part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYYfahSy5kE (part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQfEu7N7brk (Program 1 part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKxE6UqeVpU (program 2, part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFF_17mgL4c (prog 2, part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4sHGHiRkPA (prog 2, part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stVmEmJ666M (Democracy Now, part 1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d0XEHahJ2Q (part 2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Fm3Zc7D8I (part 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lpckijMVe3I (part 4)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEg6XEP-Cig (part 5)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlOG3g-mOXU
Enjoy!
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There are many sites that attempt to debunk the 9/11 “myths”, but they don’t do a very convincing job of it. In particular, the Popular Mechanics article is really pathetic.
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How many of you have ever stapled the cuff of your sleeve to the papers you were trying to staple? The co-worker who helped extricate me apologized for laughing, since she said she had done the same thing. (Note to self: don’t wear sweaters with long loose-fitting sleeves to work)
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The Popular Mechanics site that Cameron referenced is probably one of your better resources. There is a podcast program at the site, available for download, that you could send to your daughter that would at least address some of the immediate concerns:
http://avmedia.popularmechanics.com/audio/PopMechShow7.mp3
The History Channel did a documentary a few months back that dispelled the myths of the movie. I only watched the second half, but it was pretty good. Here’s a link the info for the show, which will re-air on January 6: http://www.history.com/shows.do?episodeId=240087&action=detail
Here are a couple of links of that History Channel show I found on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-ddhFrxtB8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giFYm7Zo408
Finally, here is a quote from one of the “Loose Change” folks that I’ve transcribed from one of the videos I posted above:
“We made that film essentially as a bunch of kids. That’s the reality of the situation. We were a bunch of kids tackling a subject far beyond the scope of any one documentary. I will be the first to admit that our film definitely contained errors. It still does contain some dubious claims, and it definitely does come to some conclusions that are not 100% backed up by the facts. … ‘Loose Change’ is really not a fair representation of the 9/11 truth movement.” – Dylan Avery, director of “Loose Change”
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A dear friend sent me the link to this lovely Scripture Christmas Tree yesterday. It has music, so turn off your speakers if you’re at work
http://home.att.net/~sheryl2/FLASH/SEASON/ScriptureTreeChristmas.html
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kBells wins again! The Santa Clause is correct. Please enjoy your digital hot chocolate…
~~@)
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kBells #10– I think that quote is actually from a Mike Royko column a number of years ago in syndication through a Chicago newspaper. He was discussing the attempt to get a basketball coach at an Indiana university fired for an un-PC remark. Mike made the remark about the professor who was leading the attempt to get the coach fired. I finally managed to stop laughing enough to call my dad, who loved Mike Royko, too, and alerted him to the column. He called me back, laughing so hard he could barely talk.
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Another of my favorite Roykoisms was a column called “The Cub Factor” in which Mike theorized that you could predict the winner of the World Series before it started as soon as you knew which two teams would play each other. The team with the fewest ex-Cubs on it would win.
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Pauline, #15–
I have that exact phone problem. It is a real bummer. My husband forgets I have it and keeps asking me to make calls for him. I do it, but man, it’s painful.
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#23: Does anyone know where to find an online video, or other form of info, which refutes the video about the Sept. 11 attacks being an “inside job”?
It doesn’t take an engineer to know that a 747 flying hundreds of miles an hour, fully loaded with fuel, flying into a building will bring down the building. Any building in the world.
The conspiracy theories started when Bush said he saw the first plane hit the tower and then the second 20 minutes later. You can see the video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60
There was no footage available until the NEXT DAY.
No conspiracy, just Bush being his old lying, incompentant self. Check it out for yourself.
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Pauline and Janie–I hate making phone calls too. I only do it when it is absolutely necessary. My husband is always amused by it. My mom is the same way. I would rather talk face to face with someone, but I have no problem writing either.
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Janie, out here in San Diego we have Ted Leitner and “the Padre factor.” Which ever of the two teams in the series has the most ex-Padres will will. The All-Star Game? Just one big ex-Pads reunion. MLB players, apparently, only get to play in America’s finest city when they are on their way up, or down, never in their prime. It’s against club policy (or wallet).
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Chas 9,
Anything where I think I might be inconveniencing anybody: clerks for sure, phone calls, that sort of thing. I have to persuade myself that people like phone calls or that the clerk is there to serve and benefits from me purchasing.
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Thanks, EYG.
And thanks, Anlir, for posting right after Random so I could get all my ignoring done in one big chunk.
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Holiday Tragedy:
At Least 58 Dead in Pakistan Train Wreck
By ASHRAF KHAN – 3 hours ago
MEHRABPUR, Pakistan (AP) — An express train crowded with holiday travelers derailed in southern Pakistan on Wednesday, killing at least 58 people and leaving hundreds of terrified survivors to claw their way out of the wreckage in total darkness.
The train, which derailed about 2 a.m., was loaded with an estimated 900 passengers, many of them heading home for the Islamic holiday of Eid al-Adha.
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g4CmlrA_GpQrKGt5JCwZaEyW0qKgD8TKJ2K80
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#14- We could fill the thread with Yogi Bera quotes.
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I was a big fan of Mike Royko. He once did a column on how obnoxious he found small dogs, describing one as only be good for using as a mop.
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The only quote I can think of from memory is this one:
“You can get more with a kind word and a gun than you can get with a kind word” – Al Capone
I suppose it’s not “PC”, but I find it humorous in a twisted sort of way.
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Thanks for the help, Folks. I’ll send the info along to my daughter. She’s a smart girl who likes to look at things from different angles.
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Karen O – I found the Popular Mechanics magazine matrials debunking the 9/11 conspiracy nuts delusions t be very well done (concise, compeling, fairly simple for laymen to understand without over simplifying).
Rdean – US schools are churnig out lots of engineers, but a lot of them aren’t Americans.
Great snarky put down stories:
Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher went to eat with her cabinet members after a meeting.
The server asked her what she would have.
She said “I shall have roast beef.”
He asked “And for the vegetables?”
She replied “The vegetables shall have roast beef as well.”
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#4 KBELLS,
I saw the Little Drummer Boy as part of a collection of Christmas animated films at Costco yesterday.
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krm,
I find that amusing,too.
I have a high regard for Margaret Thatcher.
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The Zsa Zsa Gabor being a good housekeeper made me lol, too.
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Thanks to all those who prayed for Laura’s CHRISTMAS concert last night. It was a huge success, with several of her classmates joining her to sing the ORIGINAL lyrics to the holiday classic, and most of the parents standing to applause their courage stand once the song was over (yes, everyone noticed!).)
On a lighter note:
One beautiful December evening Pedro and his girlfriend Rosita were sitting by the side of the ocean. It was a romantic full moon, when Pedro said, ‘Hey, mamacita, let’s do Weeweechu.’
‘Oh no, not now, let’s look at the moon!’ said Rosita.
‘Oh, c’mon baby, let’s you and I do Weeweechu. I love you and it’s the perfect time,’ Pedro begged.
‘But I wanna just hold your hand and watch the moon.’ replied Rosita.
‘Please, corazoncito, just once, do Weeweechu with me.’
Rosita looked at Pedro and said, ‘OK, one time, we’ll do Weeweechu.’
Pedro grabbed his guitar and they both sang…..
‘Weeweechu a Merry Christmas, Weeweechu a Merry Christmas, Weeweechu a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.’
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Huge news!
The incandescent bulb is going away in the USA starting in 2012. The new energy bill passed by congress mandates that they no longer be made.
What ya’ want to bet that people will start hoarding incandescent light bulbs?
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Anyone see where Huckabee is now getting flack for his 1992 book Kids Who Kill? In the book, which was actually written by his “co-author”, the popular Christians hack George Grant, Huckabee denounces both homosexuality and necrophilia as “institutionally supported” aberrant behaviors. Not sure who Huckabee/Grant used for their fact checkers, but I’m not aware of any institution which supports having sex with dead people.
http://snipurl.com/1vk2s
Someone mentioned on here the other day that a person named Joe Carter used to run the Worldmag blog. In the article, it says that a Joe Carter is Huckabee’s director of research. Does anyone know if that’s the same Joe Carter?
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Anlir/#53,
I know I will. There are too many places in our home where fluorescents aren’t feasible–you won’t get any benefit from putting them in places where you don’t leave the lights on for more than fifteen minutes or so. Every closet and bathroom fit that bill. The life span is shortened to a comparable incandescent, but I paid three times as much.
TJ and I were already in the habit of turning lights off–now we have to remember to leave them on even if we’re just passing through or doing a quick task (finding keys in a dark room, for example). Many fixtures in our current home were fitted with the florescent version, but it’s a hassle.
I don’t know of anywhere that takes depleted florescent bulbs here in Louisville, Ky. You cant’ just throw them away because of the mercury that could contaminate the ground/water.
I think they’re fine for businesses where lights are on for several consecutive hours, but my home doesn’t always fit the bill.
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#53
My wife raises the same point Cameron mentions about safely disposing of fluorescent bulbs. This may be a case of grabbing a well-meaning idea without thinking it through.
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#54
Joe Carter did run worldmagblog. He has his own blog called the Evangelical Outpost
[I wondered about his rather abrupt exit form wmb, though it may have been a no harm/no foul incident.]
The following seems relevant to your question:
from http://beltwayblogroll.nationaljournal.com/archives/2007/12/huckabees_rise.php
December 05, 2007
BELTWAY BLOGROLL
Huckabee’s Rise Keeps Blog Guru Busy
The rising political fortunes of Republican presidential candidate Mike Huckabee have been keeping his blog outreach expert busy.
Joe Carter of The Evangelical Outpost has been on the Huckabee payroll for only a few weeks, but Huckabee’s poll numbers coincidentally have been climbing during that time. And as any candidate knows, a climb in the polls triggers a corresponding climb in bad press.
That means guys like Carter, whose title is research director, have to spend more of their time answering charges against their bosses. Carter has done that at his own blog by rebutting arguments that Huckabee is a tax lover and not a fiscal conservative. He also has done it by directly challenging Huckabee critics like The Club For Growth.
Now Carter is doing it by contacting conservative bloggers who help spread the negative word about his boss. A case in point: He e-mailed Jim Geraghty of The Campaign Spot twice in response to a post about the hot Huck topic of the week — the candidate’s role in releasing a serial rapist from prison who later killed a woman in Missouri.
Carter’s new role as a voice for the campaign has earned him praise from some GOP quarters, but it also has made him a target for criticism. Blogs for Thompson, which supports Huckabee GOP rival Fred Thompson, blasted Carter for calling the Dumond episode an “unfortunate incident.”
“That might by an apt description of a fender bender in the parking lot but not the preventable murder of an innocent woman,” the blogger wrote. “A ‘travesty of justice’ is a better description.”
Ironically, Carter was a Thompson backer, even going so far as to start Blogs For Fred back in the summer, until a few weeks before he joined the Huckabee campaign. (Read his co-authored Huckabee endorsement.)
UPDATE: Kingpin Kos and Atrios are using their newfound blog power to try to hang the Dumond baggage around a rising Huckabee’s neck — something Kos said they couldn’t do in 2002 because they were “wee insignificant specks and our writings about the case got read by few.”
Posted by Danny | 02:16 PM
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Cameron,
I suspect there will be many, many people like you. People like the warm light that incandescent bulbs give off compared to fluorescent bulbs, which have a cold, “institutional” feel.
Part of the legislation mandates a recycling plan for the bulbs with mercury.
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There was no footage available until the NEXT DAY.
No conspiracy, just Bush being his old lying, incompentant self. Check it out for yourself.
RDean, I am glad that we agree on the “no conspiracy” aspect of this. But I don’t have a clue what you mean about footage not being available until the next day. I did not see the first plane fly, but I saw the second plane fly in “live.” I was in a car repair “waiting room” and then managed to see the footage re-air again and again all morning long. Perhaps I have misunderstood you.
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I’m with you, Cameron. I replaced the incandescent bulbs with flourescents and have had to replace them again and again and you can’t throw them away in my progressive community. What’s worse, the flourescents, at least at church, do weird things to my eyes and give me a headache .
Another bad idea under the guise of me-first greenism.
Though maybe DC Lawyer has an answer to my complaints . . .
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Any energy bill that doesn’t do anything to create energy is a stupid bill. I’ve said it so many times before, congress should just go home, campaign, go on boondoggle, just go away and stop making things worse.
Another quote: “Money doesn’t make you happy. I have 50 million dollars. I was just as happy with 48 million.”
Arnold Schwartznegger
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Interesting discussion on Joe Carter. Wasn’t it this summer/fall when World was pushing Thompson so hard? That would coincide with Joe launching his websites. And now it’s mostly Huckabee while he is working for him? Coincidence?
Fact checker indeed.
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“Thanks to all those who prayed for Laura’s CHRISTMAS concert last night. ”
It was ME! It was my positive thoughts that did it. Glad to hear it was a rousing success.
At my kids’ school they do all the Holidays in some form or another. They’ve already done Hanukkah. Tomorrow a parent will be sharing the ancient (4000 year old) celebration of the Persian Winter Solstice. Should be very cool to see how this season has traditionally been celebrated for thousands of years in another culture. Friday is the Christmas party with Santa! It’s all good!
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#59: But I don’t have a clue what you mean about footage not being available until the next day.
Some footage from some tourists who happen to catch it. Some footage from automatic cameras that shoot the sky for the internet or news. Some from some company that was taking pictures for street repairs. The footage wasn’t actually shown until the next day. But not according to Bush. I don’t believe he had prior knowledge. I just believe he is a goof.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpONEX8tme8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtLAdLTuiIg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm73wOuPL60&feature=related
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Hey Michelle,
“Greenism” – that could be the cool, new word for 2008. I like the sound of it! “Environmentalism” is so 1960’s. “Greenism” is much hipper!
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Uhhh-oooh!!
“Flip-Flop” Romney did it again. He’s making stuff up and getting called out on it.
Was It All A Dream?
Mitt Romney claims that his father marched with MLK, but the record says otherwise
http://thephoenix.com/article_ektid53200.aspx
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Wonkette is running it to.
http://wonkette.com/335936/someone-had-a-dream
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FIRE!!
It looks like the Bushies will go to any length to get rid of the records that incriminate them. What do you wanna bet there are/were records in there that were being sought for investigations.
http://www.voanews.com/english/2007-12-19-voa51.cfm
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What about Romney saying that his dad marched with MLK (in Grosse Point, MI)? Turns out not to be true. One wonders if it’s part of his attempt to separate himself from the Mormon Church’s racial policies that held until 1978, when Romney was well into adulthood.
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My husband and I like those little curly fluorescent bulbs that just fit right in your regular incandescent sockets. We replaced all our bulbs with those and our electric bill went down about $20 per month. None have burned out yet–they seem to last longer than incandescents.
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I was just reading “Meet the Regulars” and there are a lot of names on there I seldom see commenting here. And a lot of names out here that aren’t on the list.
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We tried the early fluorescent bulbs and quit using them as it was so annoying to wait for them to turn on. Also, they didn’t fit well in some places. I get headaches also from fluorescents, since I notice them flickering. I hope the new ones don’t do this or I will have headaches all the time.
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Thanks for the Romney/MLK story, Hamachi. I’ve heard so many politicians who claim to have “marched with Dr. King” that I assumed long ago that it was just a perfunctory statement that they all make, along the lines of “it’s really great to be here tonight”, etc. Kinda like back in the old days of the Jerry Springer show when it was obligatory for the newest person to come out on stage to slug someone on his/her way to the chair.
Glad someone called him on his fabrication. I’m much too young to remember George Romney, in fact I’d never heard of him until this election cycle, but I find it highly improbable that a rich Mormon Republican businessman in the late 50s early 60s was a big fan of MLK’s. Unlikely in the extreme. The non blacks who actually did “march with Dr. King” were overwhelmingly Jews, and the ones who weren’t Jews were Quakers, hippies, beatniks, commies, etc. Rich white Mormon Republican businessmen were most certainly NOT marching with Dr. King. Romney is such a fraud.
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Mandatory fluorescent bulbs will be like mandatory low-volume toilets; a few busybodies will feel like they’ve done something great, while ordinary people lose something useful and gain nothing in return.
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Anlir,
I’m pretty sure it is a preemptive strike to vaccinate him against his cult’s history. FOX won’t be reporting it, but at least it’s out there.
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Wonder how little Huey Hewitt will spin this Romney lie?
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Janie in 70-
We’ve had a similar experience with the curly fluorescents. They come in a warm tone now that is nice, and we use them in several areas of the house. They aren’t perfect for every application. I still use incandescents in my reading lamps, and halogens in the kitchen. I haven’t bothered to check the electric bill. I’m sure we are using less electricity, bit not sure if we are saving money overall with the additional cost of the bulbs.
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The light bulb replacement plan didn’t pan out for us, see above. But, replacing the 1992 refrigerator with a 2007 one, has dropped our electric bill by 25% most months. I’m astonished, genuinely shocked, every month by the difference in the bill between last year and this.
But I hate my drawer freezer . . .
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I have poor eyesight and need bright light to read.
I’ve never found a fluorescent bulb [straight or curly] that’s bright enough for me to read by. What are people like me supposed to do when incandescents are outlawed?
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I agree, Kayvee. Flourescents are terrible for reading. This is really stupid, just like the low water toilets someone pointed out above.
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Kayvee,
Buy the “large print” edition.
Seriously, I guess I’d stock up on the incandescent bulbs. You’ve got 5 years to build up your inventory.
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There is a contest show playing this week on NBC called “Clash of the Choirs”. A bunch of famous and semi famous singers selected about 20 people from each of their hometowns. The choirs are completing for 250 thousand for their favorite hometown charity. They have been absolutly amazing. The onstage friendships between the people are what this country is about. People from every race and class working together. And the singing is steller. They are all so exceptional and accepting. They even accept the guy with the pink scarf.
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Wonder how little Huey Hewitt will spin this Romney lie?
I’m curious about that as well, Night Train. Since Hewitt thinks that Romney can apparently do no wrong (and anyone who manages to challenge Romney is the enemy and must be taken down!), it should prove interesting.
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Anlir – Have you visited the “large print” section at Barnes & Noble lately? At the B&Ns near here there are usually about 9 or 10 books, most of them romance novels :-p [that's if you can find them at all]. My preference is for current events, or a good page-turner mystery.
Maybe I should go back to yesterday’s thread about Christmas presents and change my “material” request to a lifetime supply of incandescent light bulbs
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Rats & Mice – that was supposed to be
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Michelle, we just replaced our 1977 refrigerator! I was very tempted to get a drawer, but decided to go with a top freezer. Why do you not like your drawer? I’m not sure of the savings in electricity yet as I haven’t gotten my bill since I have had it.
I believe the old bulbs are out for the next year here in MN. I better stock up myself as I usually need a lot of light for reading. This may end up being a big problem for senior citizens. Anyone older than 50 requires twice the light to see, according to my daughter, who is an interior designer. Every decade the need for more light increases. But if there is a big market for better bulbs, I guess someone will start making them.
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Re: fluorescent bulbs – we tried the “curly” kind and one blew up in my husband’s face (fortunately no injuries) – that was the end of that experiment for us
I just found out at our Cub Scout den’s visit to the “transfer station” (where the trash and recycling are processed) that I can take my old fluorescent bulbs there, and it’s no charge for residential use (businesses have to pay to take theirs). I’m surprised a larger city like Louisville doesn’t have a similar program.
Re: footage of 9/11 – I remember watching the TV for well over half an hour that morning, and they described the planes hitting. I can’t say for sure now whether or not I saw footage of the plane hitting but I thought I had, so I can easily imagine saying I had seen it, but being mistaken if in fact all I saw was the damage to the towers but not the plane itself.
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For any of you that like history or just know who in history they like, who in history, from around the Middle Ages to now, is your favorite king?
My favorite is Gustavus Adolphus (Gustav Adolph),
the King of Sweden in the 1600s who was known as the Lion of the North. He was the main leaders of the Protestants against the Catholics in the Thirty Years War.
I see him as an admirable character because he was a Christian, loved by his troops, a military genius (considered one of the ablest generals ever by Napoleon Bonaparte and Car von Clausewitz), knew 9 languages (7, 9, around there), held the nobility in check from trampling on the peasants, and other things, not the least of which was bravery, as he would often lead the charge in a battle)
A hero and role model in about every sense, you could say.
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Pauline,
I think he’s making a distinction between the first plane hitting, which we didn’t see on the air, and the second plane hitting, which we all saw live because the cameras were still trained on the buildings.
Louisville recycles everything known to man except CFLs. I’m stocking up, as I said above.
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Groucho Marx is one of my favorite putdown artists. These are attributed to him:
Groucho: ” I’d love to help you out; which way did you come in?”
Victim: “I didn’t come here to be insulted!”
Groucho: “Oh? Where do you usually go?”
Preptalks
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I have to wear glasses with a special UV filter on them in fluorescent light from working under bare fluorescent lights as a teen. I HATE the lights, and get awful headaches from them. I guess it is time to stock up on incandescents.
I can see it now, about five years down the line we will have a “War on Incandescent Lights”. The Mafia and other criminal gangs will be dealing in incandescent light bulbs in a black market that will have us baby boomers as customers. You think contraband coming across the Southern border is bad now, just wait!
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Peter L.
Not to worry. The Chinese will still make incandescent lights, and whoever is in power at the time will be so afraid of offending them. Besides, if Wal-Mart wants to sell incandeswcents, who has the will to say no.
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I’ve never bought or used one myself, but I know there are light bulbs known as “full spectrum light,” which is supposed to simulate daylight. I just checked the website of one of the companies that makes them, and they make them in both incandescent and fluorescent types. So if the law requires only fluorescent bulbs (and just because a law is passed now doesn’t mean it won’t get changed or delayed before five years is up), there will be bulbs available that are much better than the fluorescents typically in use today. Right now they’re fairly expensive because it’s a niche product (otherwise I’d get them), but if there is more demand the price will go down.
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I can’t even imagine this light bulb thing actually taking effect, but I’m horrified that it passed. I too need plenty of light (and I’m only 40), and fluorescents just aren’t as good for reading (which is what I do for a living). One advantage of being self-employed now is that I don’t have fluorescents (just in my laundry room, where it doesn’t matter). I’ll wait and see before I stock up, but if this seems set to stick, then I’ll have to stock up somehow. (I don’t have much storage space in this house, and don’t really want to rent a storage locker.
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The new fluorescents are supposed to last upto 10 years. I bought a large pack of 12 which on a per bulb price was similar to incandescents. They are as bright as a regular 60 watt but my wife prefers three way lights topping up to 120 watts — far too much brightness for a man who spent too much time in basement bars. They turn on immideiately with no flickering – I read with them and have no problems. fluorescents can be dropped off at our local transfer site for free.
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