Comments on: Roots of the modern university http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:06:14 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: hrw http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260910 hrw Fri, 11 Jan 2008 02:53:00 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260910 <i>first terrorist cult????</i> superlatives make no sense when they are wrong. The Assasins, the Russian nihlist, etc all precede the Weather Underground who bear more resemblance to the anarchist-syndicalist supported by George Orwell than a terrorist cult. first terrorist cult????

superlatives make no sense when they are wrong. The Assasins, the Russian nihlist, etc all precede the Weather Underground who bear more resemblance to the anarchist-syndicalist supported by George Orwell than a terrorist cult.

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]]> By: hrw http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260889 hrw Fri, 11 Jan 2008 01:02:33 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260889 I read Bill Ayers' memoir "Fugitive Days" An interesting read from a former member of the Weather Underground, which I should re-read. Unlike Horowitz he's fairly unrepetant and still an anarchist, slightly mellowed by age. I read Bill Ayers’ memoir “Fugitive Days” An interesting read from a former member of the Weather Underground, which I should re-read. Unlike Horowitz he’s fairly unrepetant and still an anarchist, slightly mellowed by age.

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]]> By: llama http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260867 llama Thu, 10 Jan 2008 23:52:56 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260867 Scroopy, I agree with Olasky's take on secular humanists but they still aren't happy - especially when they eventually meet their Maker. Scroopy,

I agree with Olasky’s take on secular humanists but they still aren’t happy – especially when they eventually meet their Maker.

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]]> By: rdean http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260823 rdean Thu, 10 Jan 2008 21:30:07 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260823 I love it when someone from the "Right" writes an honest book about the left. It's like an athiest writing an "honest" book about the Christians. Or the Christians writing an "honest" book about the gays. Hold on, I think I just dropped my grain of salt. Here, you take it. I love it when someone from the “Right” writes an honest book about the left. It’s like an athiest writing an “honest” book about the Christians. Or the Christians writing an “honest” book about the gays.

Hold on, I think I just dropped my grain of salt. Here, you take it.

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]]> By: Scroop Moth http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260729 Scroop Moth Thu, 10 Jan 2008 18:17:55 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260729 Arcadia, I knew a communist who graduated from Reed College and got a job for Wells Fargo Bank, where he proceeded to make a bad loan of $8 million to a bunch of crooks who rented out Mercedes automobiles -- but there were no Mercedes, of course. Expediently, the guy got a job with a bank in Portland which added a zero to his loan limit. Does this count as revolution? Arcadia, I knew a communist who graduated from Reed College and got a job for Wells Fargo Bank, where he proceeded to make a bad loan of $8 million to a bunch of crooks who rented out Mercedes automobiles — but there were no Mercedes, of course. Expediently, the guy got a job with a bank in Portland which added a zero to his loan limit. Does this count as revolution?

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]]> By: arcadia http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260708 arcadia Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:41:43 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260708 What, a bunch of college students are going to conclude that the best place to spread social revolutionary doctrine is through the business world...? I wonder how many religious groups have reached the same conclusion. "Hey let's ignore the community we live in and try to convince GE, IBM and Microsoft to spread the Good Word"? What, a bunch of college students are going to conclude that the best place to spread social revolutionary doctrine is through the business world…?

I wonder how many religious groups have reached the same conclusion. “Hey let’s ignore the community we live in and try to convince GE, IBM and Microsoft to spread the Good Word”?

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]]> By: Scroop Moth http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260697 Scroop Moth Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:14:52 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260697 Being a leftist, Harrison, I can't see what's so funny! The efforts at composition by 16 students in the school cafeteria are no more "accidentally" comic than the efforts of the folks who wrote the Second Amendment or the Westminster Confession. This ain't humor, it's sausage making. Being a leftist, Harrison, I can’t see what’s so funny!

The efforts at composition by 16 students in the school cafeteria are no more “accidentally” comic than the efforts of the folks who wrote the Second Amendment or the Westminster Confession. This ain’t humor, it’s sausage making.

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]]> By: Scroop Moth http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260692 Scroop Moth Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:03:36 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260692 Llama, that's not what Olasky wrote on a recent thread, where he admits that secular humanists often live successfully and avoid the troubles that drive the weak, the bad, and the ugly into the arms of Jesus. Llama, that’s not what Olasky wrote on a recent thread, where he admits that secular humanists often live successfully and avoid the troubles that drive the weak, the bad, and the ugly into the arms of Jesus.

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]]> By: llama http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260689 llama Thu, 10 Jan 2008 16:50:43 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260689 It came as shock to the many whack jobs of old on the left when they grew up to find out no matter how wonderful and perfect their later life turned out, no matter how rich, skillful and wonderful character attributes they held, they still had 'Private Troubles to Fix and Many Problems to Solve.' It was even a greater shock to them to find out that these troubles and problems were still caused in the great majority by themselves rather than someone else, in spite of how perfect they had become. The greatest shock of course was when they found out they still couldn't fix troubles or solve problems in the least. It came as shock to the many whack jobs of old on the left when they grew up to find out no matter how wonderful and perfect their later life turned out, no matter how rich, skillful and wonderful character attributes they held, they still had ‘Private Troubles to Fix and Many Problems to Solve.’

It was even a greater shock to them to find out that these troubles and problems were still caused in the great majority by themselves rather than someone else, in spite of how perfect they had become. The greatest shock of course was when they found out they still couldn’t fix troubles or solve problems in the least.

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]]> By: RobHays http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/comment-page-1/#comment-260630 RobHays Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:50:49 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/10/roots-of-the-modern-university/#comment-260630 Let me preface this critique by saying that I feel that we as Christians in particular should never turn a blind or uncaring eye toward the suffering of our neighbor. That said, "that people may see the political, social and economic sources of their private troubles" is such a monumental cop-out and denial of personal responsibility. Having "private troubles"? Guess what? It's not your fault, it's all the political, social, and economic factors that have put you in this situation! If we focused more on treating people in pain as adults capable of making real decisions, and not helpless pawns in a system designed to oppress them, we'd have universities that actually dialogue about important things again. Let me preface this critique by saying that I feel that we as Christians in particular should never turn a blind or uncaring eye toward the suffering of our neighbor. That said, “that people may see the political, social and economic sources of their private troubles” is such a monumental cop-out and denial of personal responsibility. Having “private troubles”? Guess what? It’s not your fault, it’s all the political, social, and economic factors that have put you in this situation!

If we focused more on treating people in pain as adults capable of making real decisions, and not helpless pawns in a system designed to oppress them, we’d have universities that actually dialogue about important things again.

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