Comments on: Chill Bill http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:20:05 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Kyle A http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267380 Kyle A Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:20:43 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267380 NJLawyer, you have a point. How a candidate reacts to pressue is important. I think what bothers me about the "Chill, Bill" bit is that the Clintons are following political strategies that are risky--they will either show emotion or not depending on how the poll data turn out. We learn nothing important from politicians whose every word and gesture is planned. Do you think that you've seen the real Bill Clinton? We will never see the real Clintons (or the real Obama, or the real Romney, etc., etc., etc.). NJLawyer, you have a point. How a candidate reacts to pressue is important. I think what bothers me about the “Chill, Bill” bit is that the Clintons are following political strategies that are risky–they will either show emotion or not depending on how the poll data turn out. We learn nothing important from politicians whose every word and gesture is planned.

Do you think that you’ve seen the real Bill Clinton? We will never see the real Clintons (or the real Obama, or the real Romney, etc., etc., etc.).

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]]> By: NJLawyer http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267238 NJLawyer Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:55:23 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267238 I can't argue with CherylD's first paragraph either! Well said. I could swallow Obama to keep the Clintons out of the White House, too. And he can't accomplish much without the backing of Congress. The only bad thing is the judicial nominees. That would disappoint me tremendously. (Justus331, stay brave!) I can’t argue with CherylD’s first paragraph either! Well said. I could swallow Obama to keep the Clintons out of the White House, too. And he can’t accomplish much without the backing of Congress. The only bad thing is the judicial nominees. That would disappoint me tremendously.

(Justus331, stay brave!)

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]]> By: StuBob http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267185 StuBob Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:21:51 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267185 As usual, I'm completely with Cheryl D. As usual, I’m completely with Cheryl D.

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]]> By: Cheryl D. http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267175 Cheryl D. Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:11:36 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267175 As a Republican I'm rooting for Obama. Not because I want him as president, but because (1) I think he'll be more beatable (he doesn't have the necessary experience, and her campaign seems more likely to use any-means-necessary, including fraud) and (2) I'd rather see him win than her, if it comes down to that. I have heard repeatedly that he is even more liberal than she is. But I think he'd be a powerless president and get less accomplished--a good thing when we're talking about a president with a bad agenda. I also don't want to see the Clintons anywhere near the White House ever again, so if it takes defeat from someone else in her party, I'll accept that. As a Republican I’m rooting for Obama. Not because I want him as president, but because (1) I think he’ll be more beatable (he doesn’t have the necessary experience, and her campaign seems more likely to use any-means-necessary, including fraud) and (2) I’d rather see him win than her, if it comes down to that.

I have heard repeatedly that he is even more liberal than she is. But I think he’d be a powerless president and get less accomplished–a good thing when we’re talking about a president with a bad agenda. I also don’t want to see the Clintons anywhere near the White House ever again, so if it takes defeat from someone else in her party, I’ll accept that.

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]]> By: Justus331 http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267144 Justus331 Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:09:44 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267144 DC Lawyer: I hope this note finds you doing well. I suspect you'd not seen a question I posed to you in a previous thread, so I'll be brave and ask again. Could you please tell the class what is it about Barak Obama's experience, policy, campaign and voting record that makes you support him for President? DC Lawyer: I hope this note finds you doing well. I suspect you’d not seen a question I posed to you
in a previous thread, so I’ll be brave and ask again.
Could you please tell the class what is it about Barak Obama’s experience, policy, campaign and voting record that makes you support him for President?

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]]> By: DC Lawyer http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267117 DC Lawyer Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:16:33 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267117 Obama 2008. Know hope. Obama 2008. Know hope.

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]]> By: Bob Buckles http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267110 Bob Buckles Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:03:53 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267110 As a Republican I am having a hard enough time trying to figure out who to vote for. I don't think any of the Democrats has enough experience for the job. As a Republican I am having a hard enough time trying to figure out who to vote for. I don’t think any of the Democrats has enough experience for the job.

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]]> By: NJLawyer http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267101 NJLawyer Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:50:02 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267101 Roger, how many people would believe her? (I'm sorry, but I'm in a disputatious mood today.) Roger, how many people would believe her?

(I’m sorry, but I’m in a disputatious mood today.)

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]]> By: Roger http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267087 Roger Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:33:52 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267087 <i>Do you think Clinton’s campaign can recover from these latest setbacks?</i> I don't know for sure. It depends on her. What the nation needs to hear right now is something like, "I am my own person and candidate. My husband does not speak for me. If elected, this will NOT be my husband's third term in office." Do you think Clinton’s campaign can recover from these latest setbacks?

I don’t know for sure. It depends on her. What the nation needs to hear right now is something like, “I am my own person and candidate. My husband does not speak for me. If elected, this will NOT be my husband’s third term in office.”

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]]> By: NJLawyer http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/comment-page-1/#comment-267070 NJLawyer Mon, 28 Jan 2008 14:05:36 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/01/28/chill-bill/#comment-267070 Yes, KyleA, it should be in a perfect, totally rational world. Now come down to earth, 'cause we don't live in a perfect, totally rational world. These little crying fits and the reactions to mudslinging actually tell us about something about the candidates. How they throw off criticism tells us a lot about a person. The fact that McCain is rumored to have a temper doesn't bother me. I have one, too -- it takes a lot to bring it out, but when it comes, it's a doosie. But I have no effect the world. It depends what makes McCain lose his temper and how it affects his decisions. Hillary's crying: she was tired up there in NH, that was evident. She saw all her hard work going down the tubes and she was sad about it. This softens her a bit, and it takes the edge off the idea that she has only the desire for power and evil intent inside of her. Cry too much, too often changes that equation. These may seem like small things, but we use them evaluate what a candidate might do on a larger scale, when faced with a real problem. It's how we get to know them as people. They ARE people. Just as we want to know a babysitter before we leave our children with her, so too, do we want to know a candidate before we hand him/her the presidency. Yes, KyleA, it should be in a perfect, totally rational world. Now come down to earth, ’cause we don’t live in a perfect, totally rational world. These little crying fits and the reactions to mudslinging actually tell us about something about the candidates. How they throw off criticism tells us a lot about a person.

The fact that McCain is rumored to have a temper doesn’t bother me. I have one, too — it takes a lot to bring it out, but when it comes, it’s a doosie. But I have no effect the world. It depends what makes McCain lose his temper and how it affects his decisions.

Hillary’s crying: she was tired up there in NH, that was evident. She saw all her hard work going down the tubes and she was sad about it. This softens her a bit, and it takes the edge off the idea that she has only the desire for power and evil intent inside of her. Cry too much, too often changes that equation.

These may seem like small things, but we use them evaluate what a candidate might do on a larger scale, when faced with a real problem. It’s how we get to know them as people. They ARE people. Just as we want to know a babysitter before we leave our children with her, so too, do we want to know a candidate before we hand him/her the presidency.

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