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		<title>By: rdean</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2008/01/30/personal-note-ex-gay-liberation/comment-page-3/#comment-269690</link>
		<dc:creator>rdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 00:41:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will never &quot;submit&quot; myself to the ages old religion of a bunch of ignorant desert people that had multiple wives, engaged in slaugher, sacrifice and slavery.  Of course I don&#039;t understand those that do.  I have morals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will never &#8220;submit&#8221; myself to the ages old religion of a bunch of ignorant desert people that had multiple wives, engaged in slaugher, sacrifice and slavery.  Of course I don&#8217;t understand those that do.  I have morals.
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rdean

As Believers, and I am one, are tempted with sin, we all are &lt;b&gt;in different ways.&lt;/b&gt;  The Believers have the LORD and HIS promises to give us an &#039;escape&#039; it&#039;s up to us to depend on the LORD at those times, and flee from evil.

The devil tempts everyone, it&#039;s only through our LORD that we are able to resist those temptations which are sin.  &lt;b&gt;God is faithful to all who trust in HIM.&lt;/b&gt;

 
6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, &lt;b&gt;God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.&lt;/b&gt; 
 
7 &lt;b&gt;Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. &lt;/b&gt; James 4</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rdean</p>
<p>As Believers, and I am one, are tempted with sin, we all are <b>in different ways.</b>  The Believers have the LORD and HIS promises to give us an &#8216;escape&#8217; it&#8217;s up to us to depend on the LORD at those times, and flee from evil.</p>
<p>The devil tempts everyone, it&#8217;s only through our LORD that we are able to resist those temptations which are sin.  <b>God is faithful to all who trust in HIM.</b></p>
<p>6 But he giveth more grace. Wherefore he saith, <b>God resisteth the proud, but giveth grace unto the humble.</b> </p>
<p>7 <b>Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. </b> James 4
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		<title>By: rdean</title>
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		<dc:creator>rdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 22:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what we do with that temptation&#8217; 

Considering what gay guys do, no truly straight guy is tempted.  You have my word on that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what we do with that temptation&#8217; </p>
<p>Considering what gay guys do, no truly straight guy is tempted.  You have my word on that.
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 19:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tnnssmom - 132



We all are tempted in way or another to sin in  many ways.  IF we are a Believer it is &lt;b&gt;&#039;what we do with that temptation&#039;&lt;/b&gt; that makes the difference.  I have posted the passage of Scripture below many times. 

Maybe you haven&#039;t read my posts very carefully.  If one turns to Christ, repents, and then goes right back into WHATEVER sin  willfully stays there,  they have turned their back on Christ.  The LORD has given us an escape from sin, its up to the Believer to accept it and turn to Jesus Christ each and every time they are tempted.



There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but &lt;b&gt;God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.&lt;/b&gt; 1 Corinthians 10:13</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tnnssmom &#8211; 132</p>
<p>We all are tempted in way or another to sin in  many ways.  IF we are a Believer it is <b>&#8216;what we do with that temptation&#8217;</b> that makes the difference.  I have posted the passage of Scripture below many times. </p>
<p>Maybe you haven&#8217;t read my posts very carefully.  If one turns to Christ, repents, and then goes right back into WHATEVER sin  willfully stays there,  they have turned their back on Christ.  The LORD has given us an escape from sin, its up to the Believer to accept it and turn to Jesus Christ each and every time they are tempted.</p>
<p>There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but <b>God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.</b> 1 Corinthians 10:13
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		<title>By: tnnssmom</title>
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		<dc:creator>tnnssmom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Feb 2008 18:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If &#8220;sexual conversion&#8221; isn&#8217;t a necessity in the life of one who is involved in sexual sin, I fail to see the necessity in going any further. If someone wants to &#8217;sit&#8217; in their sin, what is the point of their coming for help to you or anyone else, except to complain, make excuses, blame anyone, about their situation&#8230;

Perhaps you might want to look at this situation a bit differently.  Same sex attraction is not the same as engaging in same sex behavior.  The attraction may be a temptation, but not necessarily a sin.  I would think that the goal in a person&#039;s life would be to grow in holiness as he/she develops a closer relationship with God.  God may or may not choose to change the direction of a person&#039;s sexual attractions.  One cannot use the presence or absence of change in the direction of one&#039;s sexual attractions as a sign of whether a person is right with God. I know several godly people who still experience same sex attraction. They see it for what it is--a temptation which they are likely to experience the rest of their lives.  They also see it as a sign of their need to depend on Christ on a regular basis.  

Now, if a person is actively choosing to engage in unbiblical sexual behavior, that would be a different story.  Even then, there&#039;s still hope--if they&#039;re willing to consider the idea that there might be better ways of meeting their needs, things might change.

Of course, I think we all &#039;sit in our sin&#039; in some part of our lives.  We may gossip, steal others&#039; reputations, overeat, or engage in a number of sinful behaviors or attitudes, all the while justifying them to ourselves and convincing ourselves that we aren&#039;t really sinning against God.  It doesn&#039;t necessarily mean we aren&#039;t Christians; most likely it means that there are areas in our lives that we haven&#039;t yet yielded to Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If &#8220;sexual conversion&#8221; isn&#8217;t a necessity in the life of one who is involved in sexual sin, I fail to see the necessity in going any further. If someone wants to &#8217;sit&#8217; in their sin, what is the point of their coming for help to you or anyone else, except to complain, make excuses, blame anyone, about their situation&#8230;</p>
<p>Perhaps you might want to look at this situation a bit differently.  Same sex attraction is not the same as engaging in same sex behavior.  The attraction may be a temptation, but not necessarily a sin.  I would think that the goal in a person&#8217;s life would be to grow in holiness as he/she develops a closer relationship with God.  God may or may not choose to change the direction of a person&#8217;s sexual attractions.  One cannot use the presence or absence of change in the direction of one&#8217;s sexual attractions as a sign of whether a person is right with God. I know several godly people who still experience same sex attraction. They see it for what it is&#8211;a temptation which they are likely to experience the rest of their lives.  They also see it as a sign of their need to depend on Christ on a regular basis.  </p>
<p>Now, if a person is actively choosing to engage in unbiblical sexual behavior, that would be a different story.  Even then, there&#8217;s still hope&#8211;if they&#8217;re willing to consider the idea that there might be better ways of meeting their needs, things might change.</p>
<p>Of course, I think we all &#8217;sit in our sin&#8217; in some part of our lives.  We may gossip, steal others&#8217; reputations, overeat, or engage in a number of sinful behaviors or attitudes, all the while justifying them to ourselves and convincing ourselves that we aren&#8217;t really sinning against God.  It doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean we aren&#8217;t Christians; most likely it means that there are areas in our lives that we haven&#8217;t yet yielded to Christ.
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		<title>By: rdean</title>
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		<dc:creator>rdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 23:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ha ha ha ha.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha ha ha.
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 22:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Hell &lt;/b&gt;is going to be the loneliest place in the Universe.  Everyone who will be there, will have no excuse.

After every knee is bowed before the LORD, those who believed will spend Eternity with HIM, those who scoffed and mocked and played games with God&#039;s Word will spend an Eternity apart from the LORD, and apart from everything else except the darkness which will never go away.

 Many don&#039;t want to believe this now, however the day is coming when it will be a reality to each person as to where they are and how the got there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Hell </b>is going to be the loneliest place in the Universe.  Everyone who will be there, will have no excuse.</p>
<p>After every knee is bowed before the LORD, those who believed will spend Eternity with HIM, those who scoffed and mocked and played games with God&#8217;s Word will spend an Eternity apart from the LORD, and apart from everything else except the darkness which will never go away.</p>
<p> Many don&#8217;t want to believe this now, however the day is coming when it will be a reality to each person as to where they are and how the got there.
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		<title>By: rdean</title>
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		<dc:creator>rdean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Victoria, if heaven is made up of people like you, I suspect it&#039;s going to be a very lonely place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Victoria, if heaven is made up of people like you, I suspect it&#8217;s going to be a very lonely place.
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Flaming Icarus - 126

I&#039;m sorry you fail to understand what I wrote.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flaming Icarus &#8211; 126</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry you fail to understand what I wrote.
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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>REG,

Thanks for your email. :)</description>
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