Comments on: Dobson’s un-endorsement http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:28:53 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: SteveG http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-271102 SteveG Thu, 07 Feb 2008 15:08:08 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-271102 SBG: That's probably true about Obama, but look at who else was in the field that's not anymore. Kucinich. Edwards. Obama is seen as a bridge-builder who is able to work with people regardless of differences in political beliefs. (whether or not that's an accurate perception is a different question, but that's the perception.) Clinton is less so -- she is polarizing -- but she both benefits and suffers from name recognition. (Some people love her and some people hate her because of who she is, regardless of specifics.) McCain has a similar factor working his favor. He's mild-mannered and doesn't seem the type to draw hard ideological lines. Obviously there are some voters, both conservative and liberal, who would prefer someone to take a hard stand for their ideologies. But the majority of voters, if the primary results so far are any indication, want someone who is going to lead the country, not just the conservative or the liberals. SBG: That’s probably true about Obama, but look at who else was in the field that’s not anymore. Kucinich. Edwards.

Obama is seen as a bridge-builder who is able to work with people regardless of differences in political beliefs. (whether or not that’s an accurate perception is a different question, but that’s the perception.)

Clinton is less so — she is polarizing — but she both benefits and suffers from name recognition. (Some people love her and some people hate her because of who she is, regardless of specifics.)

McCain has a similar factor working his favor. He’s mild-mannered and doesn’t seem the type to draw hard ideological lines.

Obviously there are some voters, both conservative and liberal, who would prefer someone to take a hard stand for their ideologies. But the majority of voters, if the primary results so far are any indication, want someone who is going to lead the country, not just the conservative or the liberals.

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]]> By: SAVEDBYGRACE http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-271024 SAVEDBYGRACE Thu, 07 Feb 2008 04:32:54 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-271024 STEVEG, Doesn't Obama have a 100% liberal voting record? Doesn't he take a hardline stand for abortion? for a universal health care program? for civil unions? One of the few against a military response to Iraq. As for the Republicans, I don't think they are necessarily looking for a uniter, they are just afraid of losing to the Democrats. They would rather have a liberal president with an R next to his name than one with a D. STEVEG,
Doesn’t Obama have a 100% liberal voting record? Doesn’t he take a hardline stand for abortion? for a universal health care program? for civil unions? One of the few against a military response to Iraq.

As for the Republicans, I don’t think they are necessarily looking for a uniter, they are just afraid of losing to the Democrats. They would rather have a liberal president with an R next to his name than one with a D.

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]]> By: SteveG http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-271015 SteveG Thu, 07 Feb 2008 03:48:45 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-271015 What's happening, I think, is that voters are saying they're really tired of leaders who take hardline ideological stands. For all you say about Clinton and Obama being "liberal," they're really pretty moderate. The Democratic voters eliminated the most liberal people in the field (Kucinich, for one) early on. And the Republican side, while the conservatives are not completely out of it yet, the voters are going big for the least hardline conservative available. That tells me people want a president who really will be a uniter, not one who will be uncompromising, either liberal or conservative. What’s happening, I think, is that voters are saying they’re really tired of leaders who take hardline ideological stands.

For all you say about Clinton and Obama being “liberal,” they’re really pretty moderate. The Democratic voters eliminated the most liberal people in the field (Kucinich, for one) early on.

And the Republican side, while the conservatives are not completely out of it yet, the voters are going big for the least hardline conservative available.

That tells me people want a president who really will be a uniter, not one who will be uncompromising, either liberal or conservative.

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]]> By: Dav http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-270994 Dav Thu, 07 Feb 2008 02:23:54 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-270994 McCain is truly a tragedy for the Republican Party. It sickens me that this coming election will feature two despicable, evil, liberals who do their best to harm the rights I hold most dear. The only silver lining that I can find to this horrible, impending tragedy is that it took Jimmy Carter to usher in Ronald Reagon. Maybe we're on the verge of that... McCain is truly a tragedy for the Republican Party. It sickens me that this coming election will feature two despicable, evil, liberals who do their best to harm the rights I hold most dear.
The only silver lining that I can find to this horrible, impending tragedy is that it took Jimmy Carter to usher in Ronald Reagon. Maybe we’re on the verge of that…

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]]> By: Scroop Moth http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-270780 Scroop Moth Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:12:44 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-270780 JOEL MARK: <i>a person (SM does not even know)</i> Actually, Joel, I do. I've read one of his books, listened to a couple of his radio commentaries, and read private correspondence between him and a Yale biologist regarding intelligent design. Beneath the mask, there was nothing but expedience. JOEL MARK: a person (SM does not even know)

Actually, Joel, I do. I’ve read one of his books, listened to a couple of his radio commentaries, and read private correspondence between him and a Yale biologist regarding intelligent design.

Beneath the mask, there was nothing but expedience.

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]]> By: Mr_Meaner http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-270626 Mr_Meaner Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:36:22 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-270626 Oh this is too rich. Huckabee may turn out to not be the buddy McCain thought he was. liberal republicans stabbing each other in the back. I think... I really think.. That the Shmuckster thinks he can win, now. So much for the WV back-room deal between "buddies". Watch Huck come out attacking McCain, tomorrow. It is hilariously sickening (if that makes sense) Oh this is too rich.
Huckabee may turn out to not be the buddy McCain thought he was.
liberal republicans stabbing each other in the back.

I think…
I really think..
That the Shmuckster thinks he can win, now.

So much for the WV back-room deal between “buddies”.

Watch Huck come out attacking McCain, tomorrow.

It is hilariously sickening
(if that makes sense)

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]]> By: Night Train http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-270622 Night Train Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:24:16 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-270622 You're welcome, Cheryl. Sometimes I can be unnecessarily belligerent. You’re welcome, Cheryl. Sometimes I can be unnecessarily belligerent.

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]]> By: Joel Mark http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-270616 Joel Mark Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:13:36 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-270616 Cheryl, I have also heard Keyes talk about his support for reparations. Cheryl, I have also heard Keyes talk about his support for reparations.

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]]> By: Joel Mark http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-270615 Joel Mark Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:12:30 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-270615 Judgmental Scroop Moth - 47, It hardly gets more inappropriately disrespectful and disdainful than for Scroop Moth to respond to a person (SM does not even know) who expresses heartbreak and for Scroop Moth to accuse him of "lying through his teeth when he says he’s heartbroken." Where do these liberals get their cyrystal balls to gaze right into the depths of the hearts and minds of conservatives? Where does this hatred come from, Scroop Moth, and where will it take you? Judgmental Scroop Moth – 47,

It hardly gets more inappropriately disrespectful and disdainful than for Scroop Moth to respond to a person (SM does not even know) who expresses heartbreak and for Scroop Moth to accuse him of “lying through his teeth when he says he’s heartbroken.”

Where do these liberals get their cyrystal balls to gaze right into the depths of the hearts and minds of conservatives? Where does this hatred come from, Scroop Moth, and where will it take you?

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]]> By: Cheryl D. http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/comment-page-2/#comment-270614 Cheryl D. Wed, 06 Feb 2008 04:11:51 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/02/05/dobsons-un-endorsement/#comment-270614 Thanks, Night Train. Thanks, Night Train.

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