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Whirled Views 2.9
Happy Saturday!
Today, we are playing “Dueling Quotes,” in which I present for your discussion a pair of opposing quotes on the same subject.
Quote #1: “Follow your heart, but be quiet for a while first. Ask questions, then feel the answer. Learn to trust your heart.” (Unknown)
Quote #2: “The heart is deceitful and wicked above all things. Who can know it?” (Jeremiah the Prophet)
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Dueling quotes?
Perhaps a third quote is needed as referee:
“Above all else, guard your heart for it is the wellspring of life.” Proverbs 4:23.
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A few months ago (I was president then.), Jeff Miller came to speak to our Lions club.
Jeff Miller owns Miller Dry Cleaners and is the guy who instigated and organized the “Honor Air Flights”. They were highlighted on CBS (I think it was) News once. What happens is; they take WW II veterans to Washington, DC on a day trip to visit the various monuments. Primarily Arlington Cemetery and the WW II memorial. It was a big thing here and other localaties heard about it and picked up on it.
There’s an ad in the local paper today.
“Grant Her Wish Prom Season” … “Donate your gently used formal dresses to make prom wishes come true”. “Bring your dresses to Miller’s Fine Drycleaning on King St. … etc.”
It seems tha Jeff Miller is organizing a system where young women who can’t afford a nice dress can arranged to be fitted with an appropriate dress for the prom this season. (An article was previously written on this.)
I’ve read where prophets have prophesied doom for America because of the moral degredation that’s going on. I’m certainly aware of much of it. We really need repentance in our nation. However, I remember what (I think it was..) Chuck Colson said. “Maybe God found ten good men in Sodom”.
There are still good men around.
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Chas, I’ve heard of groups that also do this with Wedding dresses. It’s a great idea. As for quote number one, that seems to be the theme of nearly every children’s movie I’ve ever seen.
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Men who follow their hearts often steal from their companies and cheat on their wives.
Ultimately a person should follow a conscience that is informed by God’s Word and that is open to correction by others.
Barring that, a person should follow his conscience and his reason–not his heart.
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Chas, I noticed yesterday you used to live in Annandale, VA. When was that? My grandparents (who both passed away just within this year) used to live on Regor Lane in Annandale. I spent many an Easter and Christmas at their house.
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Momoffour, your grandparents probably lived close to No Va Comm College. I lived on Medford Dr. from 1972-2001. That’s the road from 236 (Little River Tpk.) to Annandale HS. We moved there from Falls Church. I liked it there. It’s almost impossible to live at a place more convenient than Annandale.
Elvera wanted to be close to her family. So, we are in Hendersonville, NC now.
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Joel Mark, great third quote!
And remember it was Woody Allen trying to justify an affair with his sort of step-daughter that said, “The heart wants what it wants.”
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What a small world–I was born in Falls Church. Grandma & Grandaddy were in a nursing center the last several years before they died, so I hadn’t been to their home in years. But I remember traveling 236 to get there. Neato!
Blessings, and have a wonderful Saturday.
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You too Momoffour. And I echo Adios’ amen to Joel Mark.
I see in the Washington Times that the NOW NY State Chapter has condemned Sen. Ted Kennedy’s endorsement of Obama. The national chapter doesn’t. In the political comic strip, Doonesbury, there is a discussion about Obama. This girl is worried about Obama being the first black Kennedy. She says, “Obama isn’t a natural Kennedy. He’s not reckless, has no dangerous appetites and no yachting experience. … What if he doesn’t cut it, and the clan rejects him? It’ll be a GENERATION before there’s another black Kennedy.” Sometimes Trudeau comes up with some good ones.
You guys may have to put up with me till my wife gets home this afternoon. I’m supposed to be working on my income tax now, but you can see I ain’t.
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You know, other cultures don’t use the heart as a symbol for the emotions, but other body parts. I think the Hebrews (or perhaps Greeks) use the stomach, thus the saying to have a gut feeling.
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Lynn, you feeling any aftershocks?
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We woke up at four this morning, in northern California, to a mild earthquake. But that can’t be what you mean, NJ.
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There was a 5.4 in Calexio around 11 last night, supposedly felt in the Mission Valley area of SD [think Qualcomm stadium, where the Chargers play], but I didn’t feel it 20 miles north of there. I haven’t heard about any aftershocks. Of course, there always are, it’s just that most can’t be felt. Calexico is pretty far east of downtown SD, almost to the Arizona border.
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I read about the Baja California quake, Michelle, but maybe it’s working its way towards you. I don’t really know what’s going on, I was wondering what you Californians are feeling, if you’re all right.
Has anyone been reading the news in the past few days about the Archbishop of Canterbury’s suggestion regarding introducing sharia law in the UK? Apparently, now he’s backtracking.
Someone on another blog wrote about giving in to Muslims that “surrender bit by bit is still surrender” (or words to that effect). Just how the Archbishop thought that doing this would integrate, assimilate, Muslims into British society is beyond me.
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NJ — didn’t even know about the Baja quake until I read your comments…
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NJL, there’s a thread about the “Anglican Primate…” a couple of threads down. You might be interested.
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Thwarted once again. I tried to read an article in the World mag online but it did not want my acct number, said I already had a username and a password activated. Well, since that is not something I know anything about, guess I will be waiting for the hard copy. Again.
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Thank you, Chas. I hadn’t see it.
If you’re still posting, I take Elvera has not yet returned home.
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I think there is some truth inherent in the “Follow your heart” concept. That is, sometimes we have dreams, aspirations, etc., which may indeed be noble or even God-inspired, but tragically we often allow other people’s priorities or doubts to deflect us from pursuing them.
On the other hand, it is certainly true that our heart, in the sense of our desires, lusts, feelings, etc., can deceive us. Intuition can become another name for prejudice or folly. We feel we really want something, not realizing it will ultimately make us terribly unhappy, maybe even kill us. It requires regular meditation and prayer to make sure that the input from our heart is worth acting on.
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Friends,
I’ve written on another important influence on America’s Founders, the British unitarian minister Richard Price. Price was an Arian who believed Jesus to be a divine but created and subordinate being. He promote “rational” and “liberal” religion, which, in that era, was virtually synonymous with rejection of the Trinity. If interested, check it out:
http://positiveliberty.com/2008/02/richard-prices-religious-liberalism.html
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Thanks NJL. She got home about an hour ago. Things are back like before.
Some of you probably think that isn’t important.
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Mumsee,
Did you try the username/password you use to log in here? They might be the same…
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Cameron,
I did think of that but two problems: so many have told of their difficulties getting logged off of here and then not getting back for some time, I did not want to mess with success. And I don’t have any idea what my password is here. When I made the leap, they gave me some peculiar bunch of numbers, I tried to change it to something I could remember, got locked out and repassworded with another complicated thing, wrote it down, could not get in with it, went round and round for a while, somehow we settled on something but only they and the computer know what it is. I tried typing just mumsee but they wanted more and the computer just sat here laughing as it wallowed in its feeling of power and control…
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Chas,
Life is good when everybody is where they are supposed to be.
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Mumsee,
Try unplugging the computer for a while. It won’t help you log on here, but it will help remind it who’s the boss.
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Thanks Cheryl D, that may be just what we need around here, then maybe we can get rid of that pesky message that says “this something or other is accessing information beyond its control, would you like it to stop?” Well, of course I want it to stop! Silly question.
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I just read this, how sad!
“An 8-year-old boy is preparing to return to his home school district in Colorado as a girl, so school officials are designating two school restrooms as unisex facilities, and preparing to counsel other students on the issue of transgenderism.”
“The report comes from KUSA-Television in Denver, which did not identify the third-grade student or his family in the Castle Rock suburban district.”
“A spokeswoman for the Douglas County School District in Castle Rock, said the district’s calling “is to educate all kids no matter where they come from, what their background is, beliefs, values, it doesn’t matter.”
“I just find it ironic that they can dictate the dress style of children to make sure they don’t wear inappropriate clothing, but they have no controls in place for someone wearing transgender clothing,”
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Mumsee,
I guess you don’t use Firefox/Mozilla as a browser? One (of the many) good thing about it is that it remembers passwords that you allow it to remember. Simply double-clicking makes them appear in the box if they aren’t already there.
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Cameron,
Well, now, this is too weird. I thought I would try your double clicking idea but when I called up the story I wanted to read, the whole story came on. No boxes asking for anything. Okay, some things are beyond our ken and we might as well sit back and enjoy them. Guess I will go read that article. Thanks!
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Mumsee, re: Cheryl D’s #25. That won’t help. The computer just sits there and pouts. Then it thinks of ways to get even. Sometimes, when it gets too saucy, I just hit Ctrl/Alt Delete just to show it that I can.
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Glad I could help!
(Maybe next time it will actually be useful help!)
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Chas,
I have noticed that it develops a dark glow when I tell it to shut down. It is an eerie feeling, almost like it is preparing to leap up and bite. The Dog Whisperer says, “exercise, discipline, and love” are required. Maybe I should be taking it on walks as well as the Ctrl/alt/delete idea?
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Back to the quote: although I sympathize with the computer problems;(Mumsee, you better back it up quick;for tomorrow it may not start. It will not leap up and bite but sink and die with the evil blue screen of death)I digress:In most things the heart will lead us into temptation if given the chance of following our sinful nature. I would tend to agree more with Jeremiah than (unknown) although he must be commended for testing the heart before acting on the desires. “ask Questions and feel the answer” kind of begs the Proverb.
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Victoria,
That’s so horrid I’m nearly wordless. I hope they haven’t done any surgery on him. Parents get kids taken away for far less. What are these people thinking?
Has anyone else read the sad, sad book titled (I think) The Boy Who Was Raised as a Girl? It’s a true story of identical twin boys, a circumsision disaster…and the horrid choice to experiment and raise the child as a girl. (Since the book was published, both boys are dead, very young, in their thirties I think.) It was an experiment, nothing more (though not from the parents’ perspective–they were told it was their best option). And it destroyed lives. This will do so too; it cannot do otherwise.
Everyone involved in this hideous social experiment has lost sight of their senses. I pray this child is not lost, or others in his class, to this horror.
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Mumsee: I’m sorry you had trouble logging onto the magazine site. Click here, where you’ll be asked to enter your email address (if you have more than one, use the one you most likely used when you first registered on the magazine site). You’ll then be sent via email a new login to use. If that doesn’t work, please contact our customer service department at 800-951-6397, Monday-Friday, 9 a.m.-7 p.m. ET, or email them at customerservice@worldmag.com. They’ll be very glad to help you out. Thanks.
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Cheryl – 34
I know about the child you are speaking of. I knew one of them had died, but was not aware of the other twin.
It wasn’t an experiment as I remember, but a circumcision which had gone wrong……
As to this current situation. It doesn’t seem to be an experiment, but a child who is mislead, most likely by the parents. Yes Cheryl it is a ‘horror’ however, I believe that as we come to the last days before the LORD returns we will see much evil, even to those who are least able to defend themselves.
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Mickey,
I have no idea what happened, but when Cameron suggested I go back and try double clicking, it let me in with no question of passwords or user names. I was able to read several items without a problem. Thanks!
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Mumsee – Kinda sounds like a secret way to enter, like “Click twice & tell them Joe sent ya.”
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karen O,
Except that I did not even get the opportunity to click! I think there is an underweb sending messages from computer to computer, warning the gaining computer what is about to happen so they can do sly things to the unsuspecting. It is a vast internet conspiracy.
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As far as the dueling quotes, I have not yet thought of any but I am still trying. I can think of quotes but not conflicting ones. They have to be in here somewhere, I will keep looking.
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These aren’t all that profound, but consider these
1. Absence makes the heart grow fonder.
2. Out of sight, out of mind.
Huh?
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How about these-
“Opposites attract.”
“Birds of a feather flock together.”
Ajisuun -
Just today I read your comment on the Surprises thread about being asked to be your niece’s maid-of-honor.
When I got married, almost 22 yrs, ago, I asked my 58-yr.-old aunt to be one of my bridesmaids cuz she is such a special lady.
Yesterday, at a Ladies’ Lunch at church, an 88 yr.-old woman said she had been asked to be her niece’s (grandniece, I believe) matron-of-honor. Isn’t that beautiful?
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I knew those things were in there! Good job girls! And to think, I knew all four of them but could not bring them together. It must say something about my mind but I don’t think I want to know.
Ajisuun,
It is much easier to read your blog than to comment, you might warn people as an encouragement to keep trying!
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Friends,
I’m working on a piece for in print publication, the thesis of which I will briefly detail for feedback. The concept of political liberty emerged from religious disputes in Western Civilization and it was religious dissidents who first articulated these notions. It was out of the experience of mistreatment that religious dissidents began to demand first toleration and then liberty.
Because “Protestantism” was a dissident movement, Protestant thinkers played key roles in establishing liberty. And unitarians — those who believed in what orthodox Trinitarians consider soul damning heresies of Arianism and Socinianism — were the ultimate dissident Protestants and as such played key roles in influencing political liberty and the American Founding. My article focuses chiefly on these unitarian heretic ministers (though some of these figures weren’t ministers) who were instrumental in advancing the cause of liberty. They include, Joseph Priestley, Richard Price, John Locke, Isaac Newton, John Milton, Samuel Clarke, Jonathan Mayhew, Charles Chauncy, Samuel West, and a few others. All of those names were Arians or Socinians (unitarians).
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Victoria,
Yes, it was a botched surgery…but the experiment part was to raise him as a little girl rather than as a boy. So they dressed him in dresses, gave him a girl’s name, gave him dolls…all under the “loving” direction of a scientist who had been looking for a child to experiment on. And the experiment kept being reported as a success, though the parents noted that privately they noticed that their “daughter” was more masculine than their (unmutilated) son.
When he was told the truth as a teenager, he immediately chose to return to boyhood, always having had a sense he wasn’t a girl. I may be wrong, but I believe that one of the twins killed himself and one died very young of natural causes, but likely related to this whole sordid mess. I’m pretty sure both are dead now, but couldn’t swear to it.
I daresay this is an experiment of the same kind, and likely to bring similar tragedy to the family that would dare do such a thing to a child. Yes, he probably “wants to be a girl,” but he isn’t, and pretending he is will not solve the problems he’s experiencing.
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I don’t know too much about this, Jon Rowe, but your basic premise makes a lot of sense — that “political liberty emerged from religious disputes in Western Civilization.” Our early settlers certainly came here for freedom of religion, which is also freedom of thought. We get that phrase “separation of church and state” from Jefferson’s letter, but I doubt he’s the first one to come up with the idea. Is that where these Unitarians come in?
(I think Cheryl’s right that it was an experiment. I think that doctor was testing nature v. nurture.)
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