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Messiah watch
Tevye and the entire cast of Fiddler on the Roof has been waiting for the Messiah to come for a long, long time. Some of us think he’s already come. The media, too, says he’s here. They call him The Obama. For your Monday morning fix of Obama-as-Messiah media coverage, just check the archive of purple prose at Slate, where they’ve culled “material from newspaper, television, and magazine profiles of the U.S. senator from Illinois, best-selling author, Harvard Law Review president, Men’s Vogue cover model, two-time Grammy winner, efficient note-taker, physics wunderkind, descendent of George Washington’s great-great-great-great-great grandfather, teenage jazz enthusiast, possible telepathic communicator with space aliens from distant galaxies, improvement on all civil rights gains since 1957, calmer of turbulent Iownas, and front-running candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination.”
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Yes, but can he conjure up a hurricane and aim it at the exact neighborhood he wants to destroy.
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Obama freaks me out. It terrifies me to think of him in office. Good grief.
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I got email from a gal who says Obama was only baptized about a year before he declared his candidacy.
Sharia law coming soon, folks. See Alex Jones for details!
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Repent, unbelievers.
Sawgunner, nice to see the anonymous e-mail lies are circulating already. That one is no more true than the one that says he’s secretly a Muslim who was educated in a Madrassa.
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And irrelevant anyway. We’re electing a Commander-In-Chief, not a Christian-In-Chief. Why would it matter when he was baptized?
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When you get two posts from SteveG that close together, all it does is prove that liberals have no sense of humor.
(#1 Good one, KBells!)
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Hey, my favorite article in media whirl this week is in TIME magazine: “Is Experience Really Necessary for a President?”
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Obama a messiah?
That’s how Republicans think. To thinking people, a political leader is just that.
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I missed that one, Adios.
In my family, among the liberals and conservatives alike, we’re saying we already went down the road of an inexperienced outsider and we got Jimmy Carter. I think Obama is more sophisticated than Carter, but even Carter had more legislative and executive experience. Still waiting to see what, if anything, Obama has done in the past beyond run for office.
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RDean, the Republicans aren’t following Obama. The Democrats are. Republicans know Obama is not the Messiah. Democrats aren’t asking questions. Democrats aren’t thinking.
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NJL, here would be my question: So what is the harm or danger of the Dems (supposedly) not thinking?
Or (let’s broaden this a bit), what is the harm when supporters of any candidate are not especially thoughtful?
On voter ignorance there can be two types of questions. First there is the question of fandom, the idea that partisans or enthusiasts for a particular candidate are voting for the candidate as celebrity, rather than as some one with an agenda. Second, there can also be the ignorance of a candidate’s actual policy positions — they are not available in the literature or web sites; or that agenda is otherwise clouded, spoken in a kind of code (sort of a Straussian vision as it were).
As a Dem, it does seem that President Bush’s followers have exemplified both kinds of ignorance. In 2000, there was a real ignorance about what his governing policies would be — most assumed that it would be moderate, a la Texas, and so were surprised by the harder edge that quickly emerged. Alan Brinkley covers some of this in his book review in Sunday’s Times. In 2004, the Evangelical supporters of Bush demonstrated something closer to the “ignorance” of fandom — that is, preferring the candidate despite some obvious policy disadvantages. Of course, Evangelicals will dispute that there vote was uninformed or otherwise ignorant, much as the present-day Obama supporters would also assert about their candidate.
So what is it about ignorance that rankles you? Or is this a mere tautology, where Democrats are assumed to be ignorant, and then pronounced ignorant (and so validating the initial premise)?
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And neither is RDean apparently…
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If Obama is elected, then Christopher Reeves will walk again! Well, after Obama raises him from the dead, that is.
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When you get two posts from SteveG that close together, all it does is prove that liberals have no sense of humor.
You didn’t think my “Repent, unbelievers” line was funny?
Tough room!
I only posted twice in a row because I had an additional thought right after the first one had already posted, so I had to add by way of PS.
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#11: In 2000, there was a real ignorance about what his (Bush) governing policies would be
That didn’t last long.
When Obama started campaigning, supposedly, the Democratic nom was all sewn up in favor of Hillary. ALL the blogs were about Hillary. What Obama has done is to “LEARN”. Remember when Bush said he doesn’t read the paper or watch TV? He didn’t know the difference between a Sunni and a Shiite and didn’t care. Remember when he said he talks to God when making policy? Remember when he said he didn’t care about Bin Laden and doesn’t think about him anymore?
I just don’t see Obama making these types of mistakes. At the very least, he has shown an ability to “LEARN”.
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You doubt that Obama is the Messiah? You must be a racist! There is no other explanation!
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Uh, oh
This one’s for SteveG: Google “canada obama nafta” and you get the following:
“In an internal Canadian memo leaked to the Associated Press, a diplomat described a February meeting between Austan Goulsbee, Obama’s economic adviser, and George Rioux, Ottawa’s consul general in Chicago. …The memo said Goulsbee told Rioux that Obama’s campaign remarks about NAFTA “should be viewed as more about political positioning than a clear articulation of policy plans.” …Goulsbee also said campaign rhetoric “that may be perceived to be protectionist is more reflective of political manoeuvring than policy,” according to the Canadian memo.”
Well, there you have it: a messiah who speaks with forked tongue. This must be that new foreign policy Obama plans to introduce. Tell the Americans one thing, the foreigners another.
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Harris, I was trying to zap RDean’s #8 post because he went after Repubs. It was a discrete response. I thought he was picking on Repubs, so I just wanted to return the favor. I was teasing him. Never did I expect such a long response as yours!
I am not rankled. I think you are quite right in observing the “fandom” given Bush and now Obama. I have been reading vicious anti-Bush posts since I found this blog, how anyone who defended Bush was beaten into the ground, and now I’m greatly amused at the way the liberals defend Obama. And it’s coming, one way or the other.
(And yes, SteveG, I laugh at your unbelievers repent!)
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#18: and now I’m greatly amused at the way the liberals defend Obama.
That’s because of the huge difference between Bush and Obama. Bush made his millions in questionable business practices where he was even investigated by the SEC. It’s well known that Daddy helped him out of this difficulty. His military record is questionable. Bush lied about his conviction. Bush got into Harvard based on family connections and achieved mediocre grades and his main accomplishment was as a drunken cheerleader who put together parties for rich frat boys. Bush ran dirty campaigns for both Governor and President spearheaded by a toad named Carl Rove (who publicly stated that one of his most proud moments was tricking hundreds of homeless people into showing up as a Democratic fundraiser where he lied to them, promising free dinner and beer).
Obama worked as a volunteer with street organizations and grew up with a single mother. His academic achievements include the heading the Harvard Law Review, a prestigious position highlighted by the fact that he was the first black editor in it’s 104 year history. He graduated near the top of his class and then taught Constitutional Law at a Chicago University. He was voted into office in a landslide victory against a black Christian, Alen Keyes, who ran on a platform of hate and discrimination and who, during the election, disowned his own daughter for being gay. At the beginning of the election season, Obama was given zero chance of being the Democratic nominee against the expected winner, Hillary Clinton. He has put together one of the finest campaigns this country has seen in years with contributions coming from over a million Americans with the average contribution being around a hundred dollars.
So, you are greatly amused at the way the liberals defend Obama. Well, there is a lot to defend.
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Watching the VIDEO below, you will notice after a few pictures, that everyone is Pledging the Flag of the United States of America, that is ALL but Obama, who keeps his arms at his side.
Extremist? Barack Obama information from news websites VIDEO
Obama won’t wear U.S. flag pin
‘‘The truth is that right after 9/11 I had a pin,’’ Obama said. ‘‘Shortly after 9/11, particularly because as we’re talking about the Iraq war, that became a substitute for I think true patriotism, which is speaking out on issues that are of importance to our national security.
‘‘I decided I won’t wear that pin on my chest,’’ he said in the interview. ‘‘Instead, I’m going to try to tell the American people what I believe will make this country great, and hopefully that will be a testament to my patriotism.’’
So is it patriotic NOT to salute the Flag of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA? When did that happen?
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So, RDean, who do you think is lying? Obama or the Canadian?
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No one in the media have asked the “messiah” what he thinks Israel should do in response to hundreds of deadly rockets being launched into Israel from Gaza.
Enquiring minds want to know.
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So is it patriotic NOT to salute the Flag of the UNITED STATES of AMERICA? When did that happen?
It happened when wearing a piece of metal on your lapel became some sort of “patriotism test.”
Just like true religion, true patriotism is shown in actions and principles, not in outward symbols that any hypocrite can wear.
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#21: So, RDean, who do you think is lying? Obama or the Canadian?
Without going and looking at this nonsense, I’m going to guess what you are talking about since I saw a similar ridiculous story on Dan Abrams. The National Anthem was being played and a couple of people standing around Obama had their hands over their hearts. Everyone knows that you put your hand over your heart during the pledge or salute if you are in the military, the anthem is optional.
As to the pin, there was a greasy conservative Republican in Dan Abrams whining on and on about Obama not wearing a flag pin and how if you are and elected official you should and he should be embarrassed for not wearing the pin and the sky is falling. Dan Abrams said, “Are you wearing a pin”. The greasy conservative Republican said this wasn’t about him. Dan said, “You are an elected official, where is your pin”? Republican congressmen Jack Kingston could only stammer and stutter, this is about Obama, not me. I have one. I will wear it. Dan said, “You aren’t wearing it now”.
You want to see? Check it out at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiypKLr8oKA
It’s a hoot.
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NJLawyer: Obama’s people dispute the accuracy of the memo, but I will say that I’ll lose some trust in him if it turns out to be true. If he was aware of a meeting with his staff, he should have said so.
But what are we to do? If Obama becomes the nominee, we’ll have a Democrat who apparently lied about talking to the Canadians about NAFTA and a Republican who apparently lied about meeting with a lobbyist’s client. Seems like a wash.
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Good catch RDean. And that’s really the point. McCain doesn’t wear a lapel pin. This joker Kingston is criticizing Obama for it and he’s not wearing one either.
They focus on all this trivia and trumped-up patriotism rubbish because they know they really can’t stand on ideas. If they could, they would.
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Speaking of Messiah, I just saw on the news that Bush has spent 452 days on vacation since he took office. It’s public record. I guess we should be grateful. Imagine how much more damage he could have caused.
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#24. I saw the guys point. Obama never wears one. Will not wear one. This guy does, just wasn’t that day. I liked the graphic. Apparently any criticism of Obama is called smear or racism.
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All I know is that Obama doesn’t have an American flag sticker on the bumper of his car. One can only conclude that Obama hates America.
And have you seen his house? There’s no American flag flying outside of it. I wonder why Obama is so ashamed of America?
All this is enough to make you wonder if he’s really in league with the America haters and the terrorists.
Remember folks – a vote for Obama is a vote for the terrorists.
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Now if you want to see funny, check out this guy.
http://online.worldmag.com/2008/02/21/drawing-a-blank/
Odd that it only drew four comments, none from liberals.
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Kbells at #28: Obama never wears one. Will not wear one.
And explains it as being because patriotism is about much more than wearing a pin, and refusing to play along with the cheap symbolism makes a serious and important statement to that effect.
I agree with him. Republicans are obsessed with symbols and emblems and making sure you have enough red white and blue in your outer appearances. It’s beyond ridiculous that this is even worth mentioning.
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#30: Odd that it only drew four comments, none from liberals.
Not really. Most Americans can’t name any accomplishments from neither Bush nor McCain.
But every American can name Bush failures. They have been so spectacular.
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“Most Americans can’t name any accomplishments from neither Bush nor McCain.”
This guy wasn’t “most American’s”. He was an elected official on national Television telling people to vote for Obama.
“But every American can name Bush failures. They have been so spectacular.”
Of course they can. They’ve had them exaggerated, fabricated and pounded home by the liberal MSM, and Hollywood for the last eight years.
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I’m sorry, SteveG. I don’t think that’s a “wash.” If this is true, Obama is talking to a foreign government prior to being elected and telling that government one thing, while telling American citizens something else. He has no business involving the Canadian government in this election. In fact, after I added my last post, I found out that there was some motion in the Canadian parliament with a view towards condemning interference in the US election. This is big stuff, and it opens up the question of how Obama would conduct foreign policy. (I still don’t have the full facts on this, and it’s been a week. There’s something that is not right here with the media.)
The flag thing is a completely different issue.
The fact that Obama does not wear a flag pin in and of itself is no import. I don’t wear mine daily either. That changes, however, if he is also refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag. Unwillingness to pledge allegiance to the flag says nothing good about this man. How does he expect to lead a nation that he doesn’t respect? Why would you vote for someone who does not respect his country?
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This one’s for NJLawyer:
From Forbes:
But the Canadian Embassy in Washington released a statement essentially backing up the Obama camp’s version of the meeting between adviser Austan Goolsbee and officials at the Canadian consulate in Chicago.
“There was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA,” the embassy statement said. “We deeply regret any inference that may have been drawn to that effect.”
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“Unwillingness to pledge allegiance to the flag says nothing good about this man.”
Funny. There are a lot of Christians who have trouble speaking this oath.
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NJLawyer at #34: The fact that Obama does not wear a flag pin in and of itself is no import. I don’t wear mine daily either. That changes, however, if he is also refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag. Unwillingness to pledge allegiance to the flag says nothing good about this man. How does he expect to lead a nation that he doesn’t respect? Why would you vote for someone who does not respect his country?
Refuses to say the Pledge? Where the heck did that come from?
It’s another lie.
Nope, still a lie.
And it remains untrue.
Come on. Are we actually seriously going to base a decision for the presidency on who does the better job of wearing symbols and performing rituals?
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#33: They’ve had them exaggerated, fabricated and pounded home by the liberal MSM, and Hollywood for the last eight years.
Exaggerated? Which one? Katrina? Iraq? Afghanistan? Letting Bin Laden go? WMD? Not sure which one was exaggerated.
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Exaggerated? Yes.
Which one? Katrina? Yes, for one.
Iraq? Yes, for another.
Afghanistan? Another good example.
Letting Bin Laden go? That was Clinton.
WMD? Yes again.
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I could have sworn I read that Obama stood with his hands to his side when others were pledging allegiance. That’s where I got that.
That is completely different from wearing the flag pin.
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Nevertheless, a person can decide not to vote for a candidate who refuses to wear the flag pin if said person doesn’t like said candidate’s explanation for not wearing said pin.
So, yes, if a voter doesn’t want to vote for Obama because he doesn’t wear the pin, it’s okay with me. It’s a free country — and that’s what the flag represents.
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