Comments on: Messiah watch http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:46:58 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: NJLawyer http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279858 NJLawyer Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:34:32 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279858 Nevertheless, a person can decide not to vote for a candidate who refuses to wear the flag pin if said person doesn't like said candidate's explanation for not wearing said pin. So, yes, if a voter doesn't want to vote for Obama because he doesn't wear the pin, it's okay with me. It's a free country -- and that's what the flag represents. Nevertheless, a person can decide not to vote for a candidate who refuses to wear the flag pin if said person doesn’t like said candidate’s explanation for not wearing said pin.

So, yes, if a voter doesn’t want to vote for Obama because he doesn’t wear the pin, it’s okay with me. It’s a free country — and that’s what the flag represents.

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]]> By: NJLawyer http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279857 NJLawyer Tue, 04 Mar 2008 21:31:09 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279857 I could have sworn I read that Obama stood with his hands to his side when others were pledging allegiance. That's where I got that. That is completely different from wearing the flag pin. I could have sworn I read that Obama stood with his hands to his side when others were pledging allegiance. That’s where I got that.

That is completely different from wearing the flag pin.

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]]> By: StuBob http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279817 StuBob Tue, 04 Mar 2008 19:57:35 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279817 <i>Exaggerated?</i> Yes. <i> Which one? Katrina?</i> Yes, for one. <i> Iraq?</i> Yes, for another. <i> Afghanistan? </i> Another good example. <i>Letting Bin Laden go?</i> That was Clinton. <i> WMD?</i> Yes again. Exaggerated? Yes.

Which one? Katrina? Yes, for one.

Iraq? Yes, for another.

Afghanistan? Another good example.

Letting Bin Laden go? That was Clinton.

WMD? Yes again.

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]]> By: rdean http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279704 rdean Tue, 04 Mar 2008 16:04:48 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279704 #33: They’ve had them exaggerated, fabricated and pounded home by the liberal MSM, and Hollywood for the last eight years. Exaggerated? Which one? Katrina? Iraq? Afghanistan? Letting Bin Laden go? WMD? Not sure which one was exaggerated. #33: They’ve had them exaggerated, fabricated and pounded home by the liberal MSM, and Hollywood for the last eight years.

Exaggerated? Which one? Katrina? Iraq? Afghanistan? Letting Bin Laden go? WMD? Not sure which one was exaggerated.

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]]> By: SteveG http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279700 SteveG Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:52:24 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279700 NJLawyer at #34: <i>The fact that Obama does not wear a flag pin in and of itself is no import. I don’t wear mine daily either. That changes, however, if he is also refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag. Unwillingness to pledge allegiance to the flag says nothing good about this man. How does he expect to lead a nation that he doesn’t respect? Why would you vote for someone who does not respect his country?</i> Refuses to say the Pledge? Where the heck did that come from? <a href="http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress.com/2007/11/02/barack-obama-refused-to-say-the-pledge-of-allegiance-youve-been-played-for-a-daggone-fool/" rel="nofollow">It's another lie.</a> <a href="http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/11/obama-says-flag.html" rel="nofollow">Nope, still a lie.</a> And it remains <a href="http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/2007/11/obama_nabbed_by_the_patriotic.html" rel="nofollow">untrue.</a> Come on. Are we actually seriously going to base a decision for the presidency on who does the better job of wearing symbols and performing rituals? NJLawyer at #34: The fact that Obama does not wear a flag pin in and of itself is no import. I don’t wear mine daily either. That changes, however, if he is also refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag. Unwillingness to pledge allegiance to the flag says nothing good about this man. How does he expect to lead a nation that he doesn’t respect? Why would you vote for someone who does not respect his country?

Refuses to say the Pledge? Where the heck did that come from?

It’s another lie.

Nope, still a lie.

And it remains untrue.

Come on. Are we actually seriously going to base a decision for the presidency on who does the better job of wearing symbols and performing rituals?

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]]> By: Serious George http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279696 Serious George Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:47:02 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279696 "Unwillingness to pledge allegiance to the flag says nothing good about this man." Funny. There are a lot of Christians who have trouble speaking this oath. “Unwillingness to pledge allegiance to the flag says nothing good about this man.”

Funny. There are a lot of Christians who have trouble speaking this oath.

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]]> By: SteveG http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279694 SteveG Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:43:27 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279694 This one's for NJLawyer: From <a href="http://www.forbes.com/reuters/feeds/reuters/2008/03/03/2008-03-04T000047Z_01_N03391783_RTRIDST_0_CANADA-OBAMA-UPDATE-1.html" rel="nofollow">Forbes:</a> <i> But the Canadian Embassy in Washington released a statement essentially backing up the Obama camp's version of the meeting between adviser Austan Goolsbee and officials at the Canadian consulate in Chicago. "There was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA," the embassy statement said. "We deeply regret any inference that may have been drawn to that effect." </i> This one’s for NJLawyer:

From Forbes:


But the Canadian Embassy in Washington released a statement essentially backing up the Obama camp’s version of the meeting between adviser Austan Goolsbee and officials at the Canadian consulate in Chicago.

“There was no intention to convey, in any way, that Senator Obama and his campaign team were taking a different position in public from views expressed in private, including about NAFTA,” the embassy statement said. “We deeply regret any inference that may have been drawn to that effect.”

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]]> By: NJLawyer http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279686 NJLawyer Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:10:58 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279686 I'm sorry, SteveG. I don't think that's a "wash." If this is true, Obama is talking to a foreign government prior to being elected and telling that government one thing, while telling American citizens something else. He has no business involving the Canadian government in this election. In fact, after I added my last post, I found out that there was some motion in the Canadian parliament with a view towards condemning interference in the US election. This is big stuff, and it opens up the question of how Obama would conduct foreign policy. (I still don't have the full facts on this, and it's been a week. There's something that is not right here with the media.) The flag thing is a completely different issue. The fact that Obama does not wear a flag pin in and of itself is no import. I don't wear mine daily either. That changes, however, if he is also refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag. Unwillingness to pledge allegiance to the flag says nothing good about this man. How does he expect to lead a nation that he doesn't respect? Why would you vote for someone who does not respect his country? I’m sorry, SteveG. I don’t think that’s a “wash.” If this is true, Obama is talking to a foreign government prior to being elected and telling that government one thing, while telling American citizens something else. He has no business involving the Canadian government in this election. In fact, after I added my last post, I found out that there was some motion in the Canadian parliament with a view towards condemning interference in the US election. This is big stuff, and it opens up the question of how Obama would conduct foreign policy. (I still don’t have the full facts on this, and it’s been a week. There’s something that is not right here with the media.)

The flag thing is a completely different issue.

The fact that Obama does not wear a flag pin in and of itself is no import. I don’t wear mine daily either. That changes, however, if he is also refusing to pledge allegiance to the flag. Unwillingness to pledge allegiance to the flag says nothing good about this man. How does he expect to lead a nation that he doesn’t respect? Why would you vote for someone who does not respect his country?

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]]> By: kBells http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279636 kBells Tue, 04 Mar 2008 13:17:38 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279636 "Most Americans can’t name any accomplishments from neither Bush nor McCain." This guy wasn’t "most American’s". He was an elected official on national Television telling people to vote for Obama. "But every American can name Bush failures. They have been so spectacular." Of course they can. They’ve had them exaggerated, fabricated and pounded home by the liberal MSM, and Hollywood for the last eight years. “Most Americans can’t name any accomplishments from neither Bush nor McCain.”

This guy wasn’t “most American’s”. He was an elected official on national Television telling people to vote for Obama.

“But every American can name Bush failures. They have been so spectacular.”

Of course they can. They’ve had them exaggerated, fabricated and pounded home by the liberal MSM, and Hollywood for the last eight years.

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]]> By: rdean http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/comment-page-1/#comment-279608 rdean Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:23:35 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/03/messiah-watch/#comment-279608 #30: Odd that it only drew four comments, none from liberals. Not really. Most Americans can't name any accomplishments from neither Bush nor McCain. But every American can name Bush failures. They have been so spectacular. #30: Odd that it only drew four comments, none from liberals.

Not really. Most Americans can’t name any accomplishments from neither Bush nor McCain.
But every American can name Bush failures. They have been so spectacular.

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