Comments on: Personal Note: Vain arguments

By: SteveG

SteveG — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 05:54:55 +0000

CoyoteBlue at #53: Amen, sister.

How come so few of them get it, do you think?

By: Reg

Reg — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 07:27:50 +0000

36-Kim
Great idea, to me that is where this post was headed. A place to tell the stories of our lives. That would also be one of the solutions in the book Pagan Christianity. We have become passive listeners to the professionsal skills of few, whereas the new testament model was that of active participation for everyone.

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By: CoyoteBlue

CoyoteBlue — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 02:30:41 +0000

Erasmus

Well, sometimes. But mostly observations are dismissed because folks know being a sinner and all that it isn’t possible for me to see what they see in the same words. Ergo any way that I may interpret a passage from scripture must be flawed. But theirs being redeemed and all must be correct. You can’t really have a conversation with folks when that is the starting point.

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By: Lynn Vincent

Lynn Vincent — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 01:48:18 +0000

Theo writes:

As a scientist I hate when people share there personal experiences or story and expect people to accept it as fact. N=1 is hardly evidence.

True enough. But when millions of people over two millennia have similar stories of transformation, that might count for something.

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By: CoyoteBlue

CoyoteBlue — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:59:26 +0000

Drill

If you really stuck to Christ’s message and spoke about greed as much as he did and the corruption of the powerful as much as he did, Christians would be hated indeed.

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By: CoyoteBlue

CoyoteBlue — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:57:51 +0000

NJL

And see there you are, non-Christians are not in it. MIM points out the quality of mercy, I would not dispute that, but I would stand by my statement as the story is primarily about the hypocrisy of the would be stoners. But it is convenient to invalidate the view of non-Christian by remarking that they are not “in” it and so cannot see. It puts you in the area where you have an exclusive on truth and that breeds contempt for others, rather the opposite, I believe of Lynn’s point in her original post. Me, I don’t skate over the “chastening” parts. But neither do I dwell on the one sentence part of this particular story of “go and sin no more” as the central message of the story.

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By: NJLawyer

NJLawyer — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 00:39:32 +0000

Drill hits it right in 45, and MakeItMan in 48.

The thing about Scripture, especially the parables, is that you learn something new every time you read it. So, when our non-Christian friends say they’ve read the Bible, I’m sure they have, but they’re not “in” it — which MakeItMan points out in #48.

The farther our formerly Christian friends get away from the Word, the more they don’t like the chastening part. It’s inconvenient. Drill’s right: it must be SOMETHING that offends them.

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By: Erasmus

Erasmus — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:42:25 +0000

coyote you might not be able to expect conversation (who am i kidding, you can’t) but you sure can wind up the monkey and watch it dance around beating those cymbals.

RDean take note of the is-ought fallacy and category errors that lynn is throwing around.

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By: Victoria

Victoria — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:25:24 +0000

NJL

I appreciate your kind words and support.

Thank you,

Victoria

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By: Make it Man

Make it Man — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 19:18:36 +0000

“The story of the alduterous woman for example, is not a story about the woman and her sin, but rather about those who set to stone her.”

Actually I think it’s about more than that…

It’s also about the compassion Jesus shows to all sinners.

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