Correct. However, the folks who do not participate at all in politics (don’t vote and don’t talk politics) only surrender the whole enterprize over to those who ‘worship’ government. That’s no solution.

In Minnesota, an angry populace punished the Republicans in our state political offices in 2006 by giving huge majorites to the Democrats. Without sufficient resistence, the Democrats just punished the populace with the biggest state-level tax increase ever, and the brunt of it will be carried by the poor and middle classes as sales taxes, gas taxes, and license fees all go up along with inflation that will make food prices rise along with everything that is shipped. A few weak and unprincipled Republicans also caved to help the Dems.

Don’t retreat into fantasyland or cynicism. You have to fight for your principles. Don’t worship government but don’t give it to those who do.

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I believe that Marcus Aurelius said, “The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding one’s self in the ranks of the insane.”

I believe that the largest problem politically in American is that far to many people, most all professed liberals or progressives and too many Republicans, actually worship government. Politics for these folks is their religion. As I age I gain more respect for those folks in our society, many in my family and among my friends, who do not participate at all in politics. They don’t vote and they don’t talk politics.

It use to strike me as unpatriotic, lazy and irresponsible. But, lately it strikes me as very logical and rational. We have no control over spending, taxes and judges. So, if I am not willing to convert the church of American Politics, then thank you very much I will serve my family, friends and neighbors. I believe that so much of what is left that is great in American is these good folks.

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The Churchill quotes go hand-in-hand with a question that has been troubling me a lot lately: can ANY form of human government survive without eventually being degraded and destroyed by sinful human nature?

Sadly, I think the answer to that is, No. Some, like ours, may last longer than others, but it too is in decline and will eventually self-destruct, unless God intervenes. The Biblical truth is that sin eventually destroys everything it touches.

In the face of this we have two kinds of hope. We have a little hope that God will intervene during our earthly lives and restore America to some semblance of what she once was (until the next cycle of decline). Then we have the BIG hope—the Christian’s eternal destiny— that God will one day close down this whole operation and establish the eternal government of His Kingdom, free of all sin, and which will last forever.

Amen and Amen!

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“If you sling a stick — preferably a big, heavy stick — at a Washington politician, likely as not the word you’ll make him stutter is some version of “accountability.””

Accountability huh? I thought “Change” was the big buzzword this year…

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“The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter.”

“It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.”

Actually, in a democracy (as in all systems), some get what they want and others don’t. In the USA (I know we are a ‘Representative Republic’), we are free to contend and vote for what we want but not necessarily to get it.

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Well said. It sorta puts in mind a passage from Amos: “You hate the one who reproves in court and despise him who tells the truth.” Amos 5:10.

The best example of politicians pretending to want accountability and then hating those who they themselves appointed to legally find the truth and apply accountability is seen in the unjustified hate that still lives in many politicians for Ken Starr, one of the most decent and honest men to set foot in Washington in my lifetime.

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Obama is the funeral director and his legions are chanting the dirge (See thread “Obama: We are the One.”)

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