A global warming nutcase walks into a bar…
The bossiest, smuggest, preachiest, most didactic people I know are the ones who are Green, and who want everyone else to go Green, too. They are the new fundamentalists, the new Sermonizing Class. They are what so many preachy Christians, by and large, used to be in the culture and in the workplace (and some who still are), always quick to point out what someone’s doing wrong: why regular milk has too many chemicals, why driving your Taurus is bad for the environment, why your clothes could have been made of organic cotton. They think they’re educating you. But as soon as you make a joke about the milk, they don’t laugh. That’s because one problem with all passionate, argumentative fundamentalists is that they cannot laugh at themselves. Global Warmers and Climate Changers don’t know how to laugh.
The most sustained joke about the environmentally conscious is the South Park episode “SmugAlert!”, where the “smug” from all the hybrid-car owners in South Park begins to merge with the smug from hybrid-car owners in San Francisco. One character tries to point out that hybrids would be a good thing if people were prepared to drive them without being so self-satisfied about it, but everyone accepts that would be too much to ask-and people go back to driving their SUVs.
As a Christian and a young playwright, I struggled with how to write about Christians in a comedy. What would people say if I made fun of them? What if I point out the ironies and contradictions of the church, or a Christian character? Now, of course, I know the answer: it doesn’t matter. My job, as a comedian, was not to protect a certain class of people (Christians, or Climate Changers, or whoever). My job was to write things that were true, and because they were true, they were funny. We just happen not to see too many satires and jokes about Global Warming because too many of the people who write jokes believe in the stuff.




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HSK is right about folks needing to be able to laugh at themselves. Most people (including Christians) can, I think. I went to a conference/retreat once back in college and the speaker told us (all college kids, of course) that he could tell what kind of denomination we were by how we reacted to the things he said. All the Baptists said “Amen.” Those who clapped, those were the Charismatics. The Presbyterians? They were the ones who sat there quietly and nodded. And if a Presbyterian REALLY got into it, he would grunt in approval while he nodded.
Too funny. It was even funnier because I was attending a PCA church at the time and one of the elders there did exactly that (nodded while grunting) during the sermon all the time!
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I figured this was Harrison, the anti-science zealot, simply from the title of the post.
I know tons of liberal progressive sensitive types at my university. Only one in the past 3 years has fit the bill here. Sounds like you just have crappy friends harrison. You should try getting out more dude.
My job was to write things that were true, and because they were true, they were funny.
Good thing your new job is the exact opposite of that. It is still funny, denier.
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“Only one in the past 3 years has fit the bill here.”
Apparently Erasmus is another one. Good at sermonizing, but not able to laugh at himself.
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TJ,
That is funny. I went to a prayer meeting once of college students and when it was over a guy indentified what churches we went to by how we prayed. He pointed out how we addressed the Father, or which part of the Godhead we addressed, the speed of the prayer (EV Freers pray slower than molasses)and how we ended. He pegged us all correctly. Everyone laughed except the Presbyterian who grunted while nodding.
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I haven’t known very many EV-Freers, so I didn’t know that, Adios. That’s funny. You have to realize, though, that the Presbyterian grunting and nodding is about as excited as we are capable of getting!
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My brother was on vacation in Hawaii, and pulled into a parking lot at some lookout or park, left the car running and door open, ran over to the drinking fountain or bathroom, and on his way back some “surfer dude” says in his perfect SoCal accent “Dude, Mother Nature doesn’t like it when you leave your car running”. My brother rolls his eyes and thinks “You’d think the planet was the New Deity” and drives off…
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Adios beat me to it in No. 3. Erasmus has seemed so constipated this week in so many threads. There’s something funny in almost every situation. You live longer if you laugh at yourself.
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Adios (#4),
As a Presbyterian, I realize why (with a grin) we are called the Frozen Chosen. We also worship from the neck up, check our hands at the door, and are undercommitted and overcommitteed.
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(nods, grunts)
Wow, I had never realized how this little habit so readily identifies us Presbies! As practiced among the PCA-ers I know, it’s actually a throaty mmmph! – usually in response to a closely-applied point in a sermon, or in agreement in prayer, where others would say Amen – but close enough.
Next: how do our wardrobes identify us by denomination?
I’ll start: for those PCA men who belong to churches where you don’t have to wear a coat and tie, the open-collared shirt and khakis must still be pressed, and the shoes must be shiny.
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I was hoping somebody was going to finish the joke.
A global warming nutcase walks into a bar . . .
finds a man sitting at the bar, just looking at his drink. He’s been looking at his drink for about a half an hour when the global warming nutcase takes the drink from the guy, and just drinks it all down.
The poor man starts crying. The global warming nutcase says, “Come on man, I was just joking. Here, I’ll buy you another drink. I just can’t stand seeing a man crying.”
“No, it’s not that. This day is the worst of my life. First, I fall asleep, and I’m late to my office. My boss, in an outrage, fires me. When I leave the building to my car, I found out it was stolen.
“The police say they can do nothing. I get a cab to return home and when I leave it, I remember I left my wallet and credit cards there. The cab driver just drives away. I go home and when I get there, I find my wife in bed with the gardener. I leave home and come to this bar.
“And when I was thinking about putting an end to my life, you show up and drink my poison.”
Stolen from http://www.jokesplace.com/joke/thebadday.html
Anyone have a better finish?
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As a Student of Theology in the ARP a few years ago (a SoT is simply a man in seminary preparing for the ministry), I had to preach a sermon before our Presbytery. I received at least two “Amens” from the presbyters gathered. I think we almost declared that a revival had broken out.
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#3, #7, the point is that Harrison’s strawman doesn’t exist. THAT is funny. but you guys go hear hear, amen, grunt, catch the vapors, etc because it fits your preconceived bigotry. That is also funny, that I am the stick in the mud for pointing out that your Two Minute Hate is just one more fabrication in your ontology.
At my church growing up, when those little old granny women caught the spirit they’d just raise their hand up scream like a banshee panther. It always scared the heck out of me and I wondered what was wrong with them. Of course now at that church no one ‘gets led’ to do that sort of thing. They also quit having the quartets do the singing on 5th sunday and they told Anna to lay off the Jerry Lee Lewis/ Jimmy Swaggart style piano. and that was the best thing about going to church. Hell I’d still go listen to her play.
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OK, Roger, I’ll big.
A global warming nutcase (GWN) walks into a bar. There he finds a man, obviously one enamored with potent potables, hunched over numerous empty glasses. The man is disheveled, hasn’t shaved in a few days, etc. The global warming guy asks, “What’s got you down, friend? The bad news about the environment?” The drunkard replies, saying “You know, because of global warming, the weather patterns in the city have shifted, and an unusual phenomenon has resulted.” He points to the window of the bar (the bar is located near the top of a skyscaper, btw). “You see that tall building next to us?”
“Yes,” the GWN responds.
“Well, the wind patterns pass between the two buildings so that if someone were to step out of the window, he would get caught by the winds and deposited right back into the bar.”
“I don’t believe you,” says the GWN.
“I’ll bet you $100.” The GWN accepts.
The drunk goes to the window, opens it, and steps out into thin air. Sure enough, he almost immediately flies back up and into the bar. He walks over, collects his $100, and orders another drink.
“I’ve got to try that,” says the GWN. “I’ve always wanted to feel what it’s like to fly.” He steps out the window and promptly falls 50 stories to his death.
The bartender pours a drink, hands it to the drunkard, and says, “You’re a mean drunk, Superman.”
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Err, I meant to say “I’ll bite.” I used the preview feature so I can’t blame it on that.
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A global warming nutcase walks into a bar. Panting, he says, “Please give me a drink right away. I rode my bike all the way over here.”
“Good for you, man,” the bartender says. “It’s great to stay in shape.”
“Well, I’m just doing my part to preserve the planet.”
“Wow! How far did you ride?”
With all the sincerity a global warming nutcase can muster he replied, “Three whole blocks.”
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No such strawman, huh? Well, here’s my absolute favorite Earth Day story. This is back in 1990, when they brought Earth Day back (I think I have my years right). I was in college, and I was talking to this girl one day on campus. One of the local college restaurants was serving drinks with paper straws instead of the plastic ones. She had a soft drink in a cup and was drinking in through the straw, and she began sermonizing (not exaggerating) about how this was so great and so good for the environment and how we need to do this kind of stuff not just for Earth Day but all the time because the environment is so important and we have to take care of it. Then, after finishing her homily, she pulled out a cigarette and lit it up. True story.
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My son was diving for star fish and had collected three when an environmentalist walked up to the dock and aggressively threw the starfish back into the ocean, “Don’t you know those are living creatures?”
Now, I can understand why he’d want to save a life. But, apparently the fact that we’d allow our son to hunt starfish made us unworthy of courtesy or politeness.
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One more Earth Day story (true again) for the road. When I taught high school math, the school (well, at least certain teachers) would make a big deal about Earth Day. Now, mind you, I am fairly responsible with the environment, turning off lights, recycling, that sort of thing. But on Earth Day each year, if I was giving a test, I would make sure I ran it off on as much paper as possible (ordinarily I would run copies front and back to save paper; on ED, I would run it front side only). When a student invariably asked, I would quote George Will’s statement about the most wonderful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you cut it down (as long as you replant, that is!): houses, pianos, books, baseball bats, etc. Well, at least that’s not as bad as another teacher who would used hairspray on his hair only one day out of the who year: Earth Day. And he sure would use a lot of it too! He was a government teacher, so he probably got a lot of discussion mileage out of that can of hairspray.
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Ah, it must be tu quoque day.
TJ what exactly is the punch line about the lady lighting up a cigarette? I don’t get it.
If you think the most wonderful thing about a tree is what you do with it after you cut it down then…. well you probably think food comes from the grocery store.
If you think replanting a pine tree on a plantation gets you a gold star, you probably think a tree is a tree is a tree.
If you think that recycling is an environmental solution, you also probably think that technical and legislative solutions can resolve moral problems.
If you think pianos, 2×4s and baseball bats come from pine trees, you are probably one crappy carpenter.
Now, we have come to a point of agreement. I think the anti-litter and pro-recycling lobby are absolutely barking up the wrong tree and they are actually an impediment to the resolution of the problems they are attempting to combat. I wonder how disparate are our views regarding that.
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TJ,
That just sounds pissy. I respect your stance of taking personal responsibility but not wanting to buy into Earth Day hype, but to go out of your way to hurt the environment as much as possible on Earth Day just to make some kind of point…
You’re going to be one of those cantankerous “you kids get off my lawn” old men, aren’t you?
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By the way, if you think a tree is a tree is a tree, then you must not care for
truffels
oyster mushrooms
morels
chicken of the woods
black trumpets
king boletes
cauliflower mushroom
sheepshead mushroom
corrugated milky caps
caesar mushrooms
2 colored bolete
hedgehog mushroom
bearded tooth mushroom
only black morels, cauliflowers and 2 colored boletes are associated with pine trees. None of them plantation pine trees (plantation pine trees are not a forest).
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Erasmus, I have two words for you: prune juice.
Now, get back to work and stop that weather!
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NJL I don’t work on climate change. although i am accumulating a dataset that might be useful for generating some predictions.
there are some observations of significant range shifts of birds and butterflies in North America and Europe in the last 50 years. this should give you pause. we know these are good data from the sheer number of observers that have contributed observations (birds and butterflies are perhaps the two best known groups of animals on earth because they are big and sexy and lots of amateurs observe them).
i’ll stop bothering you with facts and let you get back to your denial.
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HSK – I think a comedy on the smugness of Christians who hate gays and oppose abortion would be more interesting. Why don’t you try it?
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TJ what exactly is the punch line about the lady lighting up a cigarette? I don’t get it.
I would think all that cigarette smoke isn’t particularly good for the environment. I could be wrong. Perhaps you can educate all of us on how great cigarette smoke is and how it actually helps us breath easier. Maybe you can link one of those commercials or reports from 50 years ago about how smoking was actually healthy.
If you think pianos, 2×4s and baseball bats come from pine trees, you are probably one crappy carpenter.
Apparently I’m not the only one (ok, I’ll grant you pianos). Here are a couple of things I found pretty quickly:
“Pines are among the most commercially important of tree species, valued for their timber and wood pulp throughout the world. … Commercial pines are grown in plantations for timber that is denser, more resinous, and therefore more durable than spruce (Picea). Pine wood is widely used in high-value carpentry items such as furniture, window frames, paneling and floors.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine
“Pulpwood for paper, sawtimber lumber, poles, and veneer logs are valuable timber commodities to Georgia’s economy. These are the products most people think of and value in terms of tree products since they are used for the building, furniture, pencil, and paper products we use daily.
http://www.gfc.state.ga.us/ForestMarketing/TreePRoducts.cfm
I linked the last site, btw, since my mom lives in Georgia and actually has 100+ acres dedicated to pines. Pine trees are about the only thing that will grow in that part of Georgia.
JJF: Hey you, get off my blog!
Just kidding. Relax, the whole paper thing was completely tongue in check (as was Will’s comment, although he did remind folks when he said that that many trees are intended to be a crop, not an endangered species). Oh, I really did that, but it was once a year to make a point. Most of the time I was too busy with simple things, like teaching the kids not to be wasteful with their own paper, not littering, that sort of thing. Besides, I wasn’t trying to “hurt the environment as much as possible”; if I were, I would have purposefully scheduled tests on that day and copied one question per sheet (front only, of course)!
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I think a comedy on the smugness of Christians who hate gays and oppose abortion would be more interesting. Why don’t you try it?
Wouldn’t be original; NBC already beat him to the punch!
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HSK, you provided the perfect topic to easily prove your point. Spinoza and Erasmus are your proving ground for unfunny zealots of “climate change.”
A global warming nutcase walks into a bar and shouts, “The facts speak for themselves!” A patron trying to watch a game turns and irritatedly says, “then shut up and listen.”
Birds and butterflies change their course. So what? That says absolutely NOTHING about the hypothesis of anthropogenic global warming.
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of course it depends on how you define ‘the environment’. Do note that i have already alluded to this sort of sophistry with my critique of recyclers and anti-litterers.
note that your wiki search did not suggest that 2×4s are pine. Some of them used to be, but not any more. Im sure there are economic reasons for that too. But out of about 40 houses I have worked on I have never used a pine 2×4. trim and flooring yes. OSB is made from woodchips that are probably pine derived.
Baseball bats are not made from pine trees.
Pine trees are about the only thing that will grow in that part of Georgia.
ORLY? about the only tree? the only thing? the only cash crop? 100 acres of pines ain’t good for nothing but chiggers, ticks and a place to lose a wounded deer.
my beef with timber industry ain’t your sweet little old mommer’s fault though so I won’t pick on her.
I’m just wondering do you agree with Reagan? Seen one tree, seen them all? how many more do you need to see?
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wiglaf
do you know anything about biology?
do you know what determines the range limits of species?
should i even bother with pointed stupidity? you tell me.
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#2: Sounds like you just have crappy friends harrison. You should try getting out more dude.
Funny how he got the description of the religious zealots right. Actual personal experience maybe?
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<i<note that your wiki search did not suggest that 2×4s are pine. Some of them used to be, but not any more.
Please also note that the paper copy story which I related took place over 15 years ago, and the Will quote is much older than that. After as my mom’s acreage goes, it would be difficult for her to plant much more in pines since that’s all the land she owns. But, her neighbors also have much acreage set out in pines. I would guess there are thousands of acres. I actually did a study of the land in that part of the state when I did a biology project in college. The land is too “sandy” to yield much else. Pines trees tend to thrive in that type of soil, however.
BTW, I know pine straw is supposed to be a nice habitat for chiggers, but I walked through those woods for nearly 20 years of my early life with nary a chigger bite to show for it. I can’t say the same for the nearby swamp, however. But I’m sure all the wildlife in those woods found them to be beneficial.
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# 28: A serious question, Erasmus, as I have not read (to the best of my knowledge) your “critique of recyclers and anti-litterers” before. The way you typed your comments, it makes it sound like you are anti-recycling and pro-litter (or at least against those against litter). Since I would think that sort of position to be beneath you, could you better explain (and without sarcasm, so that I can better understand where you are coming from?).
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100 acres of pines ain’t good for nothing but chiggers, ticks and a place to lose a wounded deer.
And the couple hundred thousand dollars they’ll pay for it as it matures, plus the money she gets for pine straw each year. It’s about the only crop in that region, and probably the only cash crop. Over a ways, they grow Vidalia onions, but that’s about it.
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But I’m sure all the wildlife in those woods found them to be beneficial.
that was my point.
TJ I propose that the motives of recyclers and anti-litterers are misguided. Simply put, they are methods for sustaining the status quo of resource use and as such they stymie any attempts to move beyond the disposable culture that has grow up around us.
In my state there are millions of billboards crying “STOP LITTER”. This is sadly ironic, as the highways where these signs are erected are the biggest piece of litter on the landscape of the earth.
The one young lady that I mentioned above as the sole proponent of the foolishness the denier HSK ascribes to “Global Warmers and Climate Changers” once told me “Ecology tells us that we should recycle.” And I was incensed, as I hoped that admissions would keep stupid people out of our program and they had clearly failed. But she had a warped view of what science does and is (one shared by many on this blog, I might add, although her sensibilities were quite different from many of those here, although they are both anathema to me). Ecology is the study of the distribution and abundance of organisms in space and time. not a value system.
I falsified her position for myself years ago with a revelation while squirrel hunting in that glorious in between time, after the beginning of the season but before the leaves fall. I noticed an old budweiser can in the woods, and happened to pick it up and peer inside. it was full of moss and dirt and crawly things. immediately i realized that the recycling issue was an aesthetic issue, and that the moral issue was far deeper and more significant than what do you do with a coke bottle.
but the manufacturing lobby loves recycling. that way no one calls them out on the throw-away culture that they have created.
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Thank you for your comments, Erasmus. They are appreciated. Interesting perspective, too. You have given me something to think about! And you almost managed to get through a post w/o commenting on someone’s intelligence.
Just kidding. I do appreciate the effort.
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cameron that may be. pines are worth money and regenerable. forests are irreplaceable.
as an example, trillium seeds (pretty little spring flower) are dispersed by ants. I know of a huge chunk of woods in Great Smoky Mountains National Park that was once (~80 years ago) farm fields. The fence posts are still intact, but now rather large poplar and black cherry trees have grown up (some of them around 25-30″ dbh). Trilliums are absent, because they are dispersed so slowly and have not yet reached the middle of the patch.
My point is just that one patch of woods is not the same as another patch of woods. Gipper not withstanding.
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HSK,
You mention your struggles to write about Christians in a comedy. Have you read Adrian Plass’s books? They’re some of the best humor I’ve read, and none of it offensive (in my opinion).
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Erasmus,
Let me “rephrase” for you:
“Birds and butterflies change their course. So what? That says absolutely NOTHING about the hypothesis of anthropogenic global warming.”
Even the “global” part can be disputed.
To quote you:
“should i even bother with pointed stupidity? you tell me.”
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I’m tempted to play off of Harrison’s joke, and write one that starts:
A Global Warming Nut came onto a blog….
…and wrote that everyone else was a bunch of idiots.
…and was snarky and condescending.
…and proved Harrison’s point.
But none of my punchlines were funny….
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LOL!
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I have always held to the idea that one of the more prominent signs of a fanatic is the inability to laugh at one’s own group (or about the topic in question).
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Erasmus, I’ve still thinking about your aesthetic argument argument, and I’m still intrigued. You are more or less correct, I think, in that this is in no way a moral argument in favor of recycling or against littering. I think there are moral arguments that might suffice, though. Apathy might not be a convincing appeal (I only mention this because our neighbors, who go to meticulous lengths to landscape their yard and even set aside lawn “waste” for the city to collect, will not do the same with recyclables; I’ve seen their trashcan, for instance, overflowing with cardboard, and that just seems a shame). But how about, with regard to littering, laziness (or sloth if you prefer)? That would seem to be a moral problem of pretty great magnitude. Using another school teacher example, I can not tell you how many times I saw kids throw trash on the ground when a waste barrel was an arm’s length away. Or the time I was riding with a friend in her car; she was a smoker, and didn’t want to smell up her car, so she would crack the window and dump the ashes in a soda can. When she finished the cigarette, what did she do? Well, throw it out the window of her car, of course. Drove me crazy (no pun intended).
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# 41 — KRM, what’s that supposed to mean?!? Are you making fun of me?!? That’s not funny!
Oh, just kidding.
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Well, to prove I’m equal opportunity, for any GWN’s out there, here are a few religion jokes (most of these you’ve probably heard, though):
A man dies and goes to heaven. An angel shows him all the various rooms in heaven. The first room has beautiful choral singing. “These are the Methodists,” the angel explains. “This is how they worship God.” The second room had the sound of joyous praise music and tambourines and like coming from it. “These are the Charismatics, and this is how they worship,” said the angel. The angel took the man to room after room, and finally got to the last room at the end of the hall. “You have to be perfectly quiet now and not say a word,” the angel said. “Why?” the man asked. “Because in this room are the Baptists, and they think they’re the only ones here.”
I’ve been told that Episcopalians should be called “Whiskey-palians.” That’s because wherever you find four, you’ll always find a fifth.
The nice thing about Presbyterians is whenever you put three in a room together you’re always bound to find at least five different opinions.
And, last but not least: What’s the difference between meeting a Baptist in a liquor store and meeting a Presbyterian in a liquor store? The Presbyterian says, “hi.”
Sorry, don’t know any Lutheran jokes…
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We cut dowm less than 2 acres of second growth red woods last summer. we got $42,000 for them.
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So? I cut down three trees in my yard last year and I haven’t gotten anything but turnings from ‘em…
Oh. And several large trashbags of shavings…
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and an improved septic system?
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There are a number of well-done websites run by Christians that satirize some of the less savory aspects of American Christianity. Just do some googling. One that also has a for real print magazine is The Wittenburg Door.
http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/
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Erasmus, I am not in denial, but I’m not constipated like you either. The thread is about having a sense of humor. You don’t have one. It’s sad.
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I’m a huge fan of “South Park”. What most people don’t get or know is that Matt Stone and Trey Parker are neither liberal or conservative. They’re libertarian. While I generally don’t agree with their philosophy, I do appreciate the humor which seems to offend everyone equally. Ok – they haven’t mocked libertarians yet, but nearly every other group in America has been torched by them at some point. I suppose they should save the torching of libertarians for their final episode. I think 3 of their classic episodes were the ones on Scientology, Mormonism, and the kids forming a Christian rock band.
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NJL, I have a great sense of humor. Harrison’s pointed ignorance is tiresome.
Wiglaf, I’ll pass.
I’m not a global warming nut, so saying that i am incapable of laughing at ‘my own group’ is silly. None of you are likely to know what my ‘own group’ is anyway. I could be a quadriplegic lesbian eskimo.
I am however a crusader for speckled trout and ramp patches and it is dirtbags that would rather scrape the tops off of mountains or build third homes and golf courses at 4500 feet that are a bigger threat to them than global warming. There is some evidence that southern strain (native) speckled trout might have some adaptations to dealing with living at the southern extent of the range anyway, since they have been here at least since the pleistocene and probably before that.
I heard libertarians were republicans that took LSD. That actually describes many of my libertarian friends.
hey bob sounds like a good score. I am not against cutting trees, I am against global markets that cheapen local economies and apply the lowest common denominator. you guys would probably like wendell berry.
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Erasmus,
I read a very interesting article about trout recently. I think it was in the Smithsonian magazine. Fascinating how various species wound up where they are now. Brown trout especially… Our Fish and Game department (I think- there may have been others) was none too scrupulous when it came to stocking trout, and the Browns about did in quite a few other species. I found it fascinating how various species thought wiped out, had holed up in unlikely places, and “found” again. I seem to remember that a green trout was rediscovered in Montana in small streams running through pastures. The streams were so small you’d think no fish could survive there.
Mumsee,
I haven’t gotten to those trees yet. When the March rains are past, I’ll probably be paying someone to take down the Sweet Gums that are threatening not only my septic system, but the neighbor’s and my house… I did take the little pine tree down a couple of weeks ago. So make that four trees so far.
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MIM after wiping out the native salmonids here in the southern appalachians, folks brought rainbows and browns here from western N America and europe respectively. brook trout range declined by at least 90% in about 100 years. There is no telling what we lost… specks have very plastic life histories in other habitats and regions and probably were several species. no one knows. fish and game agencies began stocking northern (pisgah strain) ancestry fish because southern strains would not domesticate, so this further eroded adapted gene complexes and in fact most native speckled trout in NC and TN are of northern population origin today. those lost adapted gene complexes would be an important source of genetic variation if fish are pressured by climate change (they are already under pressure by increasing acidification of streams in GRSM national park).
you’d be surprised how small a speckled trout stream can be. i have had people tell me that i was crazy for saying there were fish in those holes.
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I read the article, saw the pictures, but I’m still surprised by it…
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