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		<title>By: Make it Man</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/12/a-global-warming-nutcase-walks-into-a-bar/comment-page-2/#comment-282984</link>
		<dc:creator>Make it Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the article, saw the pictures, but I&#039;m still surprised by it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the article, saw the pictures, but I&#8217;m still surprised by it&#8230;
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		<title>By: Erasmus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erasmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>MIM after wiping out the native salmonids here in the southern appalachians, folks brought rainbows and browns here from western N America and europe respectively.  brook trout range declined by at least 90% in about 100 years.  There is no telling what we lost...  specks have very plastic life histories in other habitats and regions and probably were several species.  no one knows.  fish and game agencies began stocking northern (pisgah strain) ancestry fish because southern strains would not domesticate, so this further eroded adapted gene complexes and in fact most native speckled trout in NC and TN are of northern population origin today.  those lost adapted gene complexes would be an important source of genetic variation if fish are pressured by climate change (they are already under pressure by increasing acidification of streams in GRSM national park).  

you&#039;d be surprised how small a speckled trout stream can be.  i have had people tell me that i was crazy for saying there were fish in those holes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MIM after wiping out the native salmonids here in the southern appalachians, folks brought rainbows and browns here from western N America and europe respectively.  brook trout range declined by at least 90% in about 100 years.  There is no telling what we lost&#8230;  specks have very plastic life histories in other habitats and regions and probably were several species.  no one knows.  fish and game agencies began stocking northern (pisgah strain) ancestry fish because southern strains would not domesticate, so this further eroded adapted gene complexes and in fact most native speckled trout in NC and TN are of northern population origin today.  those lost adapted gene complexes would be an important source of genetic variation if fish are pressured by climate change (they are already under pressure by increasing acidification of streams in GRSM national park).  </p>
<p>you&#8217;d be surprised how small a speckled trout stream can be.  i have had people tell me that i was crazy for saying there were fish in those holes.
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		<title>By: Make it Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make it Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erasmus,
I read a very interesting article about trout recently. I think it was in the Smithsonian magazine. Fascinating how various species wound up where they are now. Brown trout especially... Our Fish and Game department (I think- there may have been others) was none too scrupulous when it came to stocking trout, and the Browns about did in quite a few other species. I found it fascinating how various species thought wiped out, had holed up in unlikely places, and &quot;found&quot; again. I seem to remember that a green trout was rediscovered in Montana in small streams running through pastures. The streams were so small you&#039;d think no fish could survive there.

Mumsee,
I haven&#039;t gotten to those trees yet. When the March rains are past, I&#039;ll probably be paying someone to take down the Sweet Gums that are threatening not only my septic system, but the neighbor&#039;s and my house... I did take the little pine tree down a couple of weeks ago. So make that &lt;i&gt;four&lt;/i&gt; trees so far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erasmus,<br />
I read a very interesting article about trout recently. I think it was in the Smithsonian magazine. Fascinating how various species wound up where they are now. Brown trout especially&#8230; Our Fish and Game department (I think- there may have been others) was none too scrupulous when it came to stocking trout, and the Browns about did in quite a few other species. I found it fascinating how various species thought wiped out, had holed up in unlikely places, and &#8220;found&#8221; again. I seem to remember that a green trout was rediscovered in Montana in small streams running through pastures. The streams were so small you&#8217;d think no fish could survive there.</p>
<p>Mumsee,<br />
I haven&#8217;t gotten to those trees yet. When the March rains are past, I&#8217;ll probably be paying someone to take down the Sweet Gums that are threatening not only my septic system, but the neighbor&#8217;s and my house&#8230; I did take the little pine tree down a couple of weeks ago. So make that <i>four</i> trees so far.
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		<title>By: Erasmus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erasmus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 02:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NJL, I have a great sense of humor.  Harrison&#039;s pointed ignorance is tiresome.

Wiglaf, I&#039;ll pass.

I&#039;m not a global warming nut, so saying that i am incapable of laughing at &#039;my own group&#039; is silly.  None of you are likely to know what my &#039;own group&#039; is anyway.  I could be a quadriplegic lesbian eskimo.  

I am however a crusader for speckled trout and ramp patches and it is dirtbags that would rather scrape the tops off of mountains or build third homes and golf courses at 4500 feet that are a bigger threat to them than global warming.  There is some evidence that southern strain (native) speckled trout might have some adaptations to dealing with living at the southern extent of the range anyway, since they have been here at least since the pleistocene and probably before that.

I heard libertarians were republicans that took LSD.  That actually describes many of my libertarian friends.

hey bob sounds like a good score.  I am not against cutting trees, I am against global markets that cheapen local economies and apply the lowest common denominator.  you guys would probably like wendell berry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NJL, I have a great sense of humor.  Harrison&#8217;s pointed ignorance is tiresome.</p>
<p>Wiglaf, I&#8217;ll pass.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a global warming nut, so saying that i am incapable of laughing at &#8216;my own group&#8217; is silly.  None of you are likely to know what my &#8216;own group&#8217; is anyway.  I could be a quadriplegic lesbian eskimo.  </p>
<p>I am however a crusader for speckled trout and ramp patches and it is dirtbags that would rather scrape the tops off of mountains or build third homes and golf courses at 4500 feet that are a bigger threat to them than global warming.  There is some evidence that southern strain (native) speckled trout might have some adaptations to dealing with living at the southern extent of the range anyway, since they have been here at least since the pleistocene and probably before that.</p>
<p>I heard libertarians were republicans that took LSD.  That actually describes many of my libertarian friends.</p>
<p>hey bob sounds like a good score.  I am not against cutting trees, I am against global markets that cheapen local economies and apply the lowest common denominator.  you guys would probably like wendell berry.
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		<title>By: Anlir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anlir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 00:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a huge fan of &quot;South Park&quot;.  What most people don&#039;t get or know is that Matt Stone and Trey Parker are neither liberal or conservative.  They&#039;re libertarian.  While I generally don&#039;t agree with their philosophy, I do appreciate the humor which seems to offend everyone equally.  Ok - they haven&#039;t mocked libertarians yet, but nearly every other group in America has been torched by them at some point.  I suppose they should save the torching of libertarians for their final episode.  I think 3 of their classic episodes were the ones on Scientology, Mormonism, and the kids forming a Christian rock band.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a huge fan of &#8220;South Park&#8221;.  What most people don&#8217;t get or know is that Matt Stone and Trey Parker are neither liberal or conservative.  They&#8217;re libertarian.  While I generally don&#8217;t agree with their philosophy, I do appreciate the humor which seems to offend everyone equally.  Ok &#8211; they haven&#8217;t mocked libertarians yet, but nearly every other group in America has been torched by them at some point.  I suppose they should save the torching of libertarians for their final episode.  I think 3 of their classic episodes were the ones on Scientology, Mormonism, and the kids forming a Christian rock band.
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		<title>By: NJLawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>NJLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erasmus, I am not in denial, but I&#039;m not constipated like you either.  The thread is about having a sense of humor.  You don&#039;t have one. It&#039;s sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erasmus, I am not in denial, but I&#8217;m not constipated like you either.  The thread is about having a sense of humor.  You don&#8217;t have one. It&#8217;s sad.
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		<title>By: Rostin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rostin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a number of well-done websites run by Christians that satirize some of the less savory aspects of American Christianity.  Just do some googling.  One that also has a for real print magazine is The Wittenburg Door.

http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a number of well-done websites run by Christians that satirize some of the less savory aspects of American Christianity.  Just do some googling.  One that also has a for real print magazine is The Wittenburg Door.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wittenburgdoor.com/</a>
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		<title>By: mumsee</title>
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		<dc:creator>mumsee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and an improved septic system?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and an improved septic system?
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		<title>By: Make it Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make it Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So? I cut down three trees in my yard last year and I haven&#039;t gotten anything but turnings from &#039;em... :-D

Oh. And several large trashbags of shavings...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So? I cut down three trees in my yard last year and I haven&#8217;t gotten anything but turnings from &#8216;em&#8230; <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Oh. And several large trashbags of shavings&#8230;
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		<title>By: Bob Buckles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Buckles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We cut dowm less than 2 acres of second growth red woods last summer. we got $42,000 for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We cut dowm less than 2 acres of second growth red woods last summer. we got $42,000 for them.
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