Comments on: The consigned and relegated department of English http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:41:33 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Spinoza http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286760 Spinoza Tue, 25 Mar 2008 13:11:52 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286760 "what is the point of a well-constructed argument about hollow ideas?" To sustain key elements of GOP ideology and fundamentalist theology. “what is the point of a well-constructed argument about hollow ideas?”

To sustain key elements of GOP ideology and fundamentalist theology.

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]]> By: jeffbilbro http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286734 jeffbilbro Tue, 25 Mar 2008 12:10:13 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286734 While rhetoric is an essential skill (and as Key noted not really taught in most English composition classes), what is the point of a well-constructed argument about hollow ideas? Literature, the meaty, rich stuff, needs to have a place at the university table; it provides insight into what questionings and imaginings humans have wrestled with over the centuries. This connection with our intellectual and cultural history is being eroded by the "trendy" nature of the English discipline, but it is a connection we must maintain if we are to think well in our own time. While rhetoric is an essential skill (and as Key noted not really taught in most English composition classes), what is the point of a well-constructed argument about hollow ideas? Literature, the meaty, rich stuff, needs to have a place at the university table; it provides insight into what questionings and imaginings humans have wrestled with over the centuries. This connection with our intellectual and cultural history is being eroded by the “trendy” nature of the English discipline, but it is a connection we must maintain if we are to think well in our own time.

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]]> By: Cameron http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286636 Cameron Mon, 24 Mar 2008 23:41:34 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286636 Sawgunner, I'll keep you in my prayers and I offer informal editing for free if it's allowed. I have a English degree for credentials! ;) Email me (address in my bio) if you're interested and/or allowed. Sawgunner,
I’ll keep you in my prayers and I offer informal editing for free if it’s allowed. I have a English degree for credentials! ;) Email me (address in my bio) if you’re interested and/or allowed.

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]]> By: hrw http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286623 hrw Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:29:18 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286623 The demise of the canon is highly speculative as is the canon itself. I do agree that writing skills must be deliberately taught and continually taught from primary to undergrad. During undergrad, a prof took an interest in me and thus took the time to proofread and give suggestions for improvement. Luckily I went to the a small university and caught someone's attention. For other students, frequently a remedial non-credit writing course is the only alternative to dismal writing and dismal failure. The demise of the canon is highly speculative as is the canon itself.

I do agree that writing skills must be deliberately taught and continually taught from primary to undergrad. During undergrad, a prof took an interest in me and thus took the time to proofread and give suggestions for improvement. Luckily I went to the a small university and caught someone’s attention. For other students, frequently a remedial non-credit writing course is the only alternative to dismal writing and dismal failure.

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]]> By: Sawgunner http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286621 Sawgunner Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:22:34 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286621 You can take #7 as a prayer request, folks! You can take #7 as a prayer request, folks!

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]]> By: Sawgunner http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286619 Sawgunner Mon, 24 Mar 2008 22:14:22 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286619 Odd we should be discussing the need for good writing. I am here at the Army Medical Dept Captain's Career Course. One big task we face is writing a battle analysis paper. Mine will be on the destruction of the French Army's Mobile Group 100. MG 100 was the pride of the French army. All its supposed strengths in fact turned out to be weakness in the VN area of operations. Pray for my writing ability. Writing hasnt been necessarily a challenge but doing all the leg work /paper chasing of RESEARCH has always been a daunting challenge. APA format, here I come! Odd we should be discussing the need for good writing. I am here at the Army Medical Dept Captain’s Career Course. One big task we face is writing a battle analysis paper. Mine will be on the destruction of the French Army’s Mobile Group 100. MG 100 was the pride of the French army. All its supposed strengths in fact turned out to be weakness in the VN area of operations.
Pray for my writing ability. Writing hasnt been necessarily a challenge but doing all the leg work /paper chasing of RESEARCH has always been a daunting challenge.
APA format, here I come!

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]]> By: Kyle A http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286609 Kyle A Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:10:54 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286609 That should have ended with a question mark. :) That should have ended with a question mark.

:)

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]]> By: Kyle A http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286608 Kyle A Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:10:35 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286608 In which department will students study literature if English departments go by the wayside. In which department will students study literature if English departments go by the wayside.

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]]> By: Lester http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286605 Lester Mon, 24 Mar 2008 21:05:29 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286605 HSK - it tell you something about the relegation of English in general when your post gets three comments (actually two of substance) in about five hours. HSK – it tell you something about the relegation of English in general when your post gets three comments (actually two of substance) in about five hours.

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]]> By: Spinoza http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/comment-page-1/#comment-286599 Spinoza Mon, 24 Mar 2008 20:46:32 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/24/the-consigned-and-relegated-department-of-english/#comment-286599 #2 - I was just going to write what Harris said, but he already said it! Darn! #2 – I was just going to write what Harris said, but he already said it! Darn!

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