Comments on: Follow the flame http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:53:02 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: hrw http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-287086 hrw Wed, 26 Mar 2008 03:51:40 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-287086 Kyle neither Democrat nor Republican will do anything as long as the symbiotic relationship or co-dependency continues . Kyle neither Democrat nor Republican will do anything as long as the symbiotic relationship or co-dependency continues .

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]]> By: Kyle A http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-287071 Kyle A Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:08:05 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-287071 Anlir, the topic has come up before, and many of us have severely criticized China's practices and politics. How unfair and unkind of you to say otherwise. I don't know when you will finally realize that many of us conservative evangelicals are not blind supporters of President Bush. Many of us are very disappointed with his presidency and were not totally behind him to start with. And we have said so many times. Where is the Democratic-led Congress in all this? Name a Democrat in Congress who has proposed a resolution to comdemn China or a bill to boycott the Olympic games or to impose trade sanctions on China? Anlir, the topic has come up before, and many of us have severely criticized China’s practices and politics. How unfair and unkind of you to say otherwise.

I don’t know when you will finally realize that many of us conservative evangelicals are not blind supporters of President Bush. Many of us are very disappointed with his presidency and were not totally behind him to start with. And we have said so many times.

Where is the Democratic-led Congress in all this? Name a Democrat in Congress who has proposed a resolution to comdemn China or a bill to boycott the Olympic games or to impose trade sanctions on China?

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]]> By: hrw http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-287051 hrw Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:54:39 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-287051 Whenever the Liberal party decides they are ready to take him on. Technically, if a money bill or a vote of confidence is voted down then the gov't is voted out and either an other party can try to form a gov't or an other election is called. The "crown" decides. The conservatives can't find a coalition partner so they get bills passed through compromise with one of the three other parties. Victoria -- my first line reflects my opinion of Harper whereas the second line reflects my view of why America and China are stuck in a weird co-dependent relationship. Whenever the Liberal party decides they are ready to take him on.

Technically, if a money bill or a vote of confidence is voted down then the gov’t is voted out and either an other party can try to form a gov’t or an other election is called. The “crown” decides.

The conservatives can’t find a coalition partner so they get bills passed through compromise with one of the three other parties.

Victoria — my first line reflects my opinion of Harper whereas the second line reflects my view of why America and China are stuck in a weird co-dependent relationship.

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]]> By: Anlir http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-287043 Anlir Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:41:44 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-287043 HRW, How long before you get to vote on Steven Harper again? Does he not govern by coalition? At least we know our long national "nightmare" will be ending in 300 days, 4 hours, and 19 minutes! :-) HRW,

How long before you get to vote on Steven Harper again? Does he not govern by coalition?

At least we know our long national “nightmare” will be ending in 300 days, 4 hours, and 19 minutes! :-)

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]]> By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-287034 Victoria Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:17:55 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-287034 Oh, and now it's Washingtons fault. :roll: Poor Canada. Oh, and now it’s Washingtons fault. :roll: Poor Canada.

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]]> By: hrw http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-287031 hrw Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:10:09 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-287031 Of course not, as long as Steven Harper remains in charge he will dutifully wait his master's instructions from Washington. However, Canada is not in debt to China and China is not dependent upon the Canadian market. The US is in debt to China and China is dependent upon the American market -- hence the symbiotic relationship. Of course not, as long as Steven Harper remains in charge he will dutifully wait his master’s instructions from Washington.

However, Canada is not in debt to China and China is not dependent upon the Canadian market. The US is in debt to China and China is dependent upon the American market — hence the symbiotic relationship.

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]]> By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-287006 Victoria Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:05:54 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-287006 HRW, I haven't heard anything about Canada boycotting the Olympics? HRW, I haven’t heard anything about Canada boycotting the Olympics?

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]]> By: hrw http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-287002 hrw Tue, 25 Mar 2008 22:48:19 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-287002 I wouldn't expect any concern from the US as long as the US and China continue their symbiotic relationship. I wouldn’t expect any concern from the US as long as the US and China continue their symbiotic relationship.

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]]> By: Anlir http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-286984 Anlir Tue, 25 Mar 2008 21:26:38 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-286984 Well, I've been pitching a fit about China hosting the games for quite awhile on here and have received zero support. Bush is going to the Games, and he refuses to criticize China for it's actions in Tibet. In fact, there has been nary a peep from conservatives about him going to the games. It's been those of us "lefties" who have raised cain about the human rights abuses and the lack of press freedom in China. Thanks to Yahoo and a few other American companies, internet and e-mail will be censored. Everything from clothing to hand-made signs will be inspected by the Chinese authorities. The athletes will be confined to the Village and cannot leave without a government "escort". Books and literature deemed offensive to State Security will be confiscated. China will use the Olympics just as Hitler did the Berlin Games. What you will see on TV will be filtered through the Chinese government censors. At the moment, China is rounding up it's "trouble makers" in advance of the Games. Lawyers, journalist, and human rights activists are at the top of the list. We may well see blue skies over Bejing in August, but that will be because the citizens of the city will be under house arrest and forbidden to drive. The factories will be closed. The economic hardship on the average person in China will not be part of the discussion. ABC or whichever network broadcasts the Games will tell us how wonderful it is in China. Well, I’ve been pitching a fit about China hosting the games for quite awhile on here and have received zero support.

Bush is going to the Games, and he refuses to criticize China for it’s actions in Tibet. In fact, there has been nary a peep from conservatives about him going to the games. It’s been those of us “lefties” who have raised cain about the human rights abuses and the lack of press freedom in China. Thanks to Yahoo and a few other American companies, internet and e-mail will be censored. Everything from clothing to hand-made signs will be inspected by the Chinese authorities. The athletes will be confined to the Village and cannot leave without a government “escort”. Books and literature deemed offensive to State Security will be confiscated.

China will use the Olympics just as Hitler did the Berlin Games. What you will see on TV will be filtered through the Chinese government censors. At the moment, China is rounding up it’s “trouble makers” in advance of the Games. Lawyers, journalist, and human rights activists are at the top of the list.

We may well see blue skies over Bejing in August, but that will be because the citizens of the city will be under house arrest and forbidden to drive. The factories will be closed. The economic hardship on the average person in China will not be part of the discussion. ABC or whichever network broadcasts the Games will tell us how wonderful it is in China.

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]]> By: Kyle A http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/comment-page-1/#comment-286954 Kyle A Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:14:56 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/25/follow-the-flame/#comment-286954 Amphipolis, thanks for the link. Prager is right, I think. Amphipolis, thanks for the link. Prager is right, I think.

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