Comments on: Black holes want my azaleas http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:05:43 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: JTankers http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-290223 JTankers Sun, 06 Apr 2008 07:35:46 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-290223 Professor Dr. Otto E. Roessler estimates 50 months Earth accretion time from a single micro black hole captured by Earth's gravity (www.golem.de/0802/57477-4.html, translation at www.lhcconcerns.com/LHCConcerns/Forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=52) Professor Dr. Otto E. Roessler estimates 50 months Earth accretion time from a single micro black hole captured by Earth’s gravity (www.golem.de/0802/57477-4.html, translation at http://www.lhcconcerns.com/LHCConcerns/Forums/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=52)

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]]> By: JTankers http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-288955 JTankers Wed, 02 Apr 2008 02:57:55 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-288955 CERN’s web site states that we have not been destroyed by effects of cosmic rays and micro black holes will evaporate. However, cosmic rays travel too fast to be captured by Earths gravity, and Hawking Radiation is disputed and contradicts Einstein’s highly successful relativity theory. Collider particles can be captured by Earth’s gravity, and relativity predicts micro black holes will not decay. The LHC Safety Assessment Group has been trying for months to prove safety without success, but it may not be possible. Alleged in the legal action: Chief Scientific Officer, Mr. Engelen passed an internal memorandum to workers at CERN, asking them, regardless of personal opinion, to affirm in all interviews that there were no risks involved in the experiments, changing the previous assertion of ‘minimal risk’. (Statisticians generally consider minimal risk as 1-10%). JTankers LHCConcerns.com CERN’s web site states that we have not been destroyed by effects of cosmic rays and micro black holes will evaporate.

However, cosmic rays travel too fast to be captured by Earths gravity, and Hawking Radiation is disputed and contradicts Einstein’s highly successful relativity theory. Collider particles can be captured by Earth’s gravity, and relativity predicts micro black holes will not decay. The LHC Safety Assessment Group has been trying for months to prove safety without success, but it may not be possible.

Alleged in the legal action: Chief Scientific Officer, Mr. Engelen passed an internal memorandum to workers at CERN, asking them, regardless of personal opinion, to affirm in all interviews that there were no risks involved in the experiments, changing the previous assertion of ‘minimal risk’.

(Statisticians generally consider minimal risk as 1-10%).

JTankers LHCConcerns.com

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]]> By: Cheryl D. http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-288620 Cheryl D. Mon, 31 Mar 2008 23:55:41 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-288620 Chas, Ever hear of someone accidentally falling into a wood chipper (and not living to tell about it)? I don't think I'd want my own black hole; I'm too clumsy. I might trip and fall, or a squirrel might run into it and tempt my dog to chase it. A storm might blow it too close to my house. The possibilities aren't pretty. I'll stick with regular trash pickup, but I hope this method works for you. Chas,

Ever hear of someone accidentally falling into a wood chipper (and not living to tell about it)? I don’t think I’d want my own black hole; I’m too clumsy. I might trip and fall, or a squirrel might run into it and tempt my dog to chase it. A storm might blow it too close to my house. The possibilities aren’t pretty. I’ll stick with regular trash pickup, but I hope this method works for you.

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]]> By: awstar http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-288581 awstar Mon, 31 Mar 2008 21:19:47 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-288581 I think John M is on to something with his notion that hundreds might disappear across the earth without a trace if this thing doesn't work as predicted. This may be the mechanism God will use to rapture the faithful. I think John M is on to something with his notion that hundreds might disappear across the earth without a trace if this thing doesn’t work as predicted. This may be the mechanism God will use to rapture the faithful.

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]]> By: Chas http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-288565 Chas Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:03:18 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-288565 Llama, I can afford it if I can dispose of nuclear and chemical waste. My son is a chemical engineer. Several years ago he was working for a company that had to dig up yards of earth from a chemical spill. What to do with it was the problem Pure fantisy, but can you imagine the possibilities if there was really a place to deposit toxic junk. Llama, I can afford it if I can dispose of nuclear and chemical waste.
My son is a chemical engineer. Several years ago he was working for a company that had to dig up yards of earth from a chemical spill. What to do with it was the problem
Pure fantisy, but can you imagine the possibilities if there was really a place to deposit toxic junk.

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]]> By: llama http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-288552 llama Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:29:44 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-288552 AWSTAR, All the anti matter can be found in parallel anti universes which no doubt contain anti you and me's being anti social. Chas, Not so fast. If you can create a small harmless black hole that disappears, certainly they will market some where the size can be controlled and it will hold your daily grass clippings and garbage. A disposable black hole would be cool. You might have to wait on one the size of a landfill and chances are you won't be able to afford it. AWSTAR,

All the anti matter can be found in parallel anti universes which no doubt contain anti you and me’s being anti social.

Chas,

Not so fast. If you can create a small harmless black hole that disappears, certainly they will market some where the size can be controlled and it will hold your daily grass clippings and garbage. A disposable black hole would be cool. You might have to wait on one the size of a landfill and chances are you won’t be able to afford it.

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]]> By: Chas http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-288540 Chas Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:55:21 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-288540 It would be great if I could get a black hole just big enough to dump my trash and yard clippings. Maybe my black hole could expand large enough that I could rent it out to the land fill. That would be great to augment my carbon credits business, which isn't doing so well. ;-) (in case someone doesn't get it. But I give them equal credance. It would be great if I could get a black hole just big enough to dump my trash and yard clippings. Maybe my black hole could expand large enough that I could rent it out to the land fill. That would be great to augment my carbon credits business, which isn’t doing so well.

;-) (in case someone doesn’t get it.
But I give them equal credance.

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]]> By: John M. http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-288537 John M. Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:49:03 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-288537 Thinking further, I normally despise moral arithmetic, but let’s consider this mathematically. There are 6 billion people on earth. Assume this thing really does have a 1 in 50 million chance of killing all of them together. Let’s say this is morally equivalent to a device that would not necessarily kill everybody TOGETHER, but would instead put each INDIVIDUAL at a 1/50 million risk of being killed. Since 6 billion divided by 50 million equals 120, it’s a pretty good bet that you would actually kill about 120 people. It could be more or less, but you would certainly kill at least a few score. They would be scattered all over the world and you would never know who they were. Would that be morally right? Should the court allow that? Thinking further, I normally despise moral arithmetic, but let’s consider this mathematically. There are 6 billion people on earth. Assume this thing really does have a 1 in 50 million chance of killing all of them together. Let’s say this is morally equivalent to a device that would not necessarily kill everybody TOGETHER, but would instead put each INDIVIDUAL at a 1/50 million risk of being killed. Since 6 billion divided by 50 million equals 120, it’s a pretty good bet that you would actually kill about 120 people. It could be more or less, but you would certainly kill at least a few score. They would be scattered all over the world and you would never know who they were. Would that be morally right? Should the court allow that?

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]]> By: awstar http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-288533 awstar Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:41:29 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-288533 If we can't get a realistic answer from Hawkings as to where all the anti-matter went in the alleged big bang, how can we trust his black hole predictions? If we can’t get a realistic answer from Hawkings as to where all the anti-matter went in the alleged big bang, how can we trust his black hole predictions?

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]]> By: John M. http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/comment-page-1/#comment-288477 John M. Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:03:36 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/black-holes-want-my-azaleas/#comment-288477 According to Wikipedia: "The risk of a doomsday scenario was indicated by Sir Martin Rees, with respect to the RHIC, as being a one in fifty million chance, and by Professor Frank Close, with regards to (dangerous) strangelets, that 'the chance of this happening is like you winning the major prize on the lottery 3 weeks in succession; the problem is that people believe it is possible to win the lottery 3 weeks in succession'. Accurate assessments of these risks are impossible due to the currently incomplete, or even hypothetically flawed, standard model of particle physics" I dunno, one in fifty million is a pretty high number when you're talking about Armageddon! According to Wikipedia: “The risk of a doomsday scenario was indicated by Sir Martin Rees, with respect to the RHIC, as being a one in fifty million chance, and by Professor Frank Close, with regards to (dangerous) strangelets, that ‘the chance of this happening is like you winning the major prize on the lottery 3 weeks in succession; the problem is that people believe it is possible to win the lottery 3 weeks in succession’. Accurate assessments of these risks are impossible due to the currently incomplete, or even hypothetically flawed, standard model of particle physics”

I dunno, one in fifty million is a pretty high number when you’re talking about Armageddon!

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