Comments on: True lust waits http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 12:16:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: krm http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289457 krm Thu, 03 Apr 2008 17:41:58 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289457 Victoria - I sit corrected. If the family dynamics are such that welcoming the child into the family and raising is a viable/reasonabe option then that should certainly be strongly considered. My perception is that a very large percentage of such children would be better placed for adoption. Victoria – I sit corrected. If the family dynamics are such that welcoming the child into the family and raising is a viable/reasonabe option then that should certainly be strongly considered.

My perception is that a very large percentage of such children would be better placed for adoption.

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]]> By: Amphipolis http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289426 Amphipolis Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:25:55 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289426 I messed up the italics when quoting him: <i>if they make a mistake</i> he would punish the innocent child I messed up the italics when quoting him:

if they make a mistake he would punish the innocent child

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]]> By: Amphipolis http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289423 Amphipolis Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:23:34 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289423 SteveG: What do you do when the teenager you’ve talked to about about birth control comes to you and admits that even knowing that, she didn't use it effectively and now she is pregnant? Birth control requires responsibility also. Teen sex is inherently irresponsible. I have not heard anybody state that information on birth control should be withheld. Besides, I don't know how any teen in this country could avoid it. Why else would married couples talk about when they plan to have a baby? It would be discussed as part of cultural literacy even if for no other reason. Birth control is a big part of what makes the modern world different from that which came before. You are completely wrong about Obama, he was absolutely talking about abortion - i>if they make a mistake</i> he would punish the innocent child, as you would. That is the issue, not birth control. SteveG:

What do you do when the teenager you’ve talked to about about birth control comes to you and admits that even knowing that, she didn’t use it effectively and now she is pregnant? Birth control requires responsibility also. Teen sex is inherently irresponsible.

I have not heard anybody state that information on birth control should be withheld. Besides, I don’t know how any teen in this country could avoid it. Why else would married couples talk about when they plan to have a baby? It would be discussed as part of cultural literacy even if for no other reason. Birth control is a big part of what makes the modern world different from that which came before.

You are completely wrong about Obama, he was absolutely talking about abortion – i>if they make a mistake he would punish the innocent child, as you would. That is the issue, not birth control.

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]]> By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289325 Victoria Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:23:20 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289325 KRM - 38 YOU WRITE:.... "the girl who gets pregnant at 16 or 17 ought to be placing the baby for adoption." I don't agree with that KRM, many times the parents of the girl will help raise the child while their daughter finishes school. The baby is part of their family. I don't believe that adopting a child out is the ONLY answer. It is one answer, but not the ONLY one. KRM – 38

YOU WRITE:…. “the girl who gets pregnant at 16 or 17 ought to be placing the baby for adoption.”

I don’t agree with that KRM, many times the parents of the girl will help raise the child while their daughter finishes school. The baby is part of their family. I don’t believe that adopting a child out is the ONLY answer. It is one answer, but not the ONLY one.

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]]> By: klasko http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289321 klasko Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:10:57 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289321 Sex education belongs in the home first. Parents need to be proactive in educating their children about sex well before the school indoctrinates them. Sex education belongs in the home first. Parents need to be proactive in educating their children about sex well before the school indoctrinates them.

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]]> By: klasko http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289319 klasko Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:07:49 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289319 SteveG - Who's to say that having that child while not under the best or ideal circumstances, might not actually be a blessing in disguise? You? God is big enough and gracious enough to redeem any circumstance. I had children young myself and I do NOT feel that I have "lost out on the rest of my life." How do you measure future potential? By the world's standards or by God's standards? SteveG – Who’s to say that having that child while not under the best or ideal circumstances, might not actually be a blessing in disguise? You? God is big enough and gracious enough to redeem any circumstance. I had children young myself and I do NOT feel that I have “lost out on the rest of my life.”
How do you measure future potential? By the world’s standards or by God’s standards?

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]]> By: SteveG http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289318 SteveG Thu, 03 Apr 2008 02:04:20 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289318 The effects of abstinence-only education: <i>ORLANDO, Fla. -- A recent survey that found some Florida teens believe drinking a cap of bleach will prevent HIV and a shot of Mountain Dew will stop pregnancy has prompted lawmakers to push for an overhaul of sex education in the state. The survey showed that Florida teens also believe that smoking marijuana will prevent a person from getting pregnant.</i> <a href="http://www.local6.com/news/15773787/detail.html" rel="nofollow">Story.</a> The effects of abstinence-only education:

ORLANDO, Fla. — A recent survey that found some Florida teens believe drinking a cap of bleach will prevent HIV and a shot of Mountain Dew will stop pregnancy has prompted lawmakers to push for an overhaul of sex education in the state.

The survey showed that Florida teens also believe that smoking marijuana will prevent a person from getting pregnant.

Story.

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]]> By: SteveG http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289311 SteveG Thu, 03 Apr 2008 01:00:38 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289311 My point, Klasko, is twofold: (1) Some children may not be the angelic saintly Christian children their parents want them to be, and if they lack the information needed to prevent pregnancy, they could ruin their future potential over a momentary lapse of good judgment, and (2) Many parents are not even trying to make their children angelic saintly Christian children, but they too do not deserve to lose out on the rest of their lives due to a lack of information. My point, Klasko, is twofold: (1) Some children may not be the angelic saintly Christian children their parents want them to be, and if they lack the information needed to prevent pregnancy, they could ruin their future potential over a momentary lapse of good judgment, and (2) Many parents are not even trying to make their children angelic saintly Christian children, but they too do not deserve to lose out on the rest of their lives due to a lack of information.

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]]> By: klasko http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289290 klasko Wed, 02 Apr 2008 23:38:42 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289290 Then we deal with the pregnancy. We'd get through it as a family. BTW - My children were both products of public education so they got all the indoctrination about birth control and such. And bnefore the public school indoctrination, we were pro-active in letting them know that there are ways that people try to get around their sin and we even talked about it before and after what they got in school. But my husband and I made it clear that the world's way was not God's way, and just because other people were doing it was not a reason for them to do it. What's your point? Then we deal with the pregnancy. We’d get through it as a family. BTW – My children were both products of public education so they got all the indoctrination about birth control and such. And bnefore the public school indoctrination, we were pro-active in letting them know that there are ways that people try to get around their sin and we even talked about it before and after what they got in school. But my husband and I made it clear that the world’s way was not God’s way, and just because other people were doing it was not a reason for them to do it. What’s your point?

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]]> By: SteveG http://online.worldmag.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/comment-page-1/#comment-289283 SteveG Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:19:14 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/03/31/true-lust-waits/#comment-289283 Klasko and CherylD: So what do you do, then, when the teenager you've talked to about about sin and abstinence comes to you and admits that even knowing that, she succumbed to temptation and now she is pregnant? Seriously. Who benefits from that? Amphipolis and KRM: As I've explained already, Obama was not talking about abortion in that comment, he was talking about birth control ... preventing the pregnancy from happening in the first place. Klasko and CherylD: So what do you do, then, when the teenager you’ve talked to about about sin and abstinence comes to you and admits that even knowing that, she succumbed to temptation and now she is pregnant?

Seriously. Who benefits from that?

Amphipolis and KRM: As I’ve explained already, Obama was not talking about abortion in that comment, he was talking about birth control … preventing the pregnancy from happening in the first place.

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