Comments on: Equating global warming with WWII http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:35:01 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Frank in Phoenix http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294475 Frank in Phoenix Sun, 20 Apr 2008 06:17:23 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294475 <b>klasko (17):</b> ... I’ve long ago stopped expecting the MSM to have a sense of respect for anything pro-war or pro-American of any kind. <b>Frank:</b> Very good. That about sums up the knee-jerk nationalist/American exceptionalist simile: To be pro-American one must be pro-war. <b>klasko (17):</b> If the present climate existed during WWII, American history in the second half of the 20th century might have turned out differently, and not for the better. <b>Frank:</b> I know it may be a stretch, but please do try to consider the possibility that not every war in which we have engaged in our brief history has been justifiable. I.e., the ongoing occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan are neither situationally or morally equivalent to defending ourselves in WWII against nations that attacked and declared war on us. <b>klasko (17):</b> You might want to try a little range in your chorus - the one note is getting tiresome. <b>Frank:</b> 1) As long as I have sons who are (theoretically) in harm's way because of our militarist intervention around the world (i.e., American males still have to register for the draft, even though everybody from the politicians to the generals and admirals claims they don't want to conscript); and 2) as long as my nation is involved in what many Americans across the political spectrum consider to be an unjust military occupation of two Middle East nations ... ... I will speak out. We won't shut up, we won't go away. I've never been ashamed or bashful about making clear that I consider opposing our foreign military adventurism to be one of my highest political priorities. Also, I often find what I consider to be "conservative" hypocrisy when I compare their complaints against liberals to their own actions. E.g., pro-interventionist conservatives quite often point out -- and rightly so -- the constant liberal fear-mongering behind the anti-global-warming movement. Yet they never stop to look in the mirror and consider their own constant fear-mongering in order to justify our nation's "Global War on" an emotion. klasko (17): … I’ve long ago stopped expecting the MSM to have a sense of respect for anything pro-war or pro-American of any kind.

Frank: Very good. That about sums up the knee-jerk nationalist/American exceptionalist simile: To be pro-American one must be pro-war.

klasko (17): If the present climate existed during WWII, American history in the second half of the 20th century might have turned out differently, and not for the better.

Frank: I know it may be a stretch, but please do try to consider the possibility that not every war in which we have engaged in our brief history has been justifiable.

I.e., the ongoing occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan are neither situationally or morally equivalent to defending ourselves in WWII against nations that attacked and declared war on us.

klasko (17): You might want to try a little range in your chorus – the one note is getting tiresome.

Frank: 1) As long as I have sons who are (theoretically) in harm’s way because of our militarist intervention around the world (i.e., American males still have to register for the draft, even though everybody from the politicians to the generals and admirals claims they don’t want to conscript); and 2) as long as my nation is involved in what many Americans across the political spectrum consider to be an unjust military occupation of two Middle East nations …

… I will speak out. We won’t shut up, we won’t go away.

I’ve never been ashamed or bashful about making clear that I consider opposing our foreign military adventurism to be one of my highest political priorities.

Also, I often find what I consider to be “conservative” hypocrisy when I compare their complaints against liberals to their own actions.

E.g., pro-interventionist conservatives quite often point out — and rightly so — the constant liberal fear-mongering behind the anti-global-warming movement. Yet they never stop to look in the mirror and consider their own constant fear-mongering in order to justify our nation’s “Global War on” an emotion.

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]]> By: RRBar http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294134 RRBar Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:00:52 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294134 Global Warming is caused by all the hot air coming out of Al Gore's mouth. And, oh yeah, smoke and mirrors. Global Warming is caused by all the hot air coming out of Al Gore’s mouth. And, oh yeah, smoke and mirrors.

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]]> By: klasko http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294132 klasko Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:58:35 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294132 Whatever, Frank - I still think it's disrespectful. They have the right to print it - freedom of the press and all, but I've long ago stopped expecting the MSM to have a sense of respect for anything pro-war or pro-American of any kind. If the present climate existed during WWII, American history in the second half of the 20th century might have turned out differently, and not for the better. You might want to try a little range in your chorus - the one note is getting tiresome. Whatever, Frank – I still think it’s disrespectful. They have the right to print it – freedom of the press and all, but I’ve long ago stopped expecting the MSM to have a sense of respect for anything pro-war or pro-American of any kind. If the present climate existed during WWII, American history in the second half of the 20th century might have turned out differently, and not for the better.

You might want to try a little range in your chorus – the one note is getting tiresome.

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]]> By: Frank in Phoenix http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294121 Frank in Phoenix Fri, 18 Apr 2008 20:28:48 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294121 How <i>dare</i> those lefties co-opt the sacred memory of WWII for their own twisted political ends. Especially when we all know that Bush's "Global War on Terror"® is our <i>real</i> WWII ... How dare those lefties co-opt the sacred memory of WWII for their own twisted political ends.

Especially when we all know that Bush’s “Global War on Terror”® is our real WWII …

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]]> By: klasko http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294090 klasko Fri, 18 Apr 2008 19:01:05 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294090 At the very least, I think it's disrespectful. At the very least, I think it’s disrespectful.

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]]> By: Travis Birkenstock http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294072 Travis Birkenstock Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:29:30 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294072 <i> "laying one on a tree." </i> Or, as we say out here in the mountain west, "kiss my aspen"! :-) “laying one on a tree.”

Or, as we say out here in the mountain west, “kiss my aspen”!

:-)

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]]> By: VS http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294068 VS Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:18:08 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294068 "Maybe they should’ve used another famous WWII photo, the Life magazine one of the sailor celebrating V-J Day in Times Square with a kiss, but instead of a nurse, he could be laying one on a tree." :-) Great idea Mickey. “Maybe they should’ve used another famous WWII photo, the Life magazine one of the sailor celebrating V-J Day in Times Square with a kiss, but instead of a nurse, he could be laying one on a tree.”

:-) Great idea Mickey.

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]]> By: Travis Birkenstock http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294043 Travis Birkenstock Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:33:21 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294043 <i> “Whoever did it is going to hell. That’s a mortal sin. God forbid he runs into a Marine that was an Iwo Jima survivor.” “[W]e’ll stick a dadgum tree up somebody’s rear if they want that and think that’s going to cure something.” </blockquote> </i> Testy, testy. You'd think Time had put a Mohammad cartoon on the cover or something. Dadgum is a good word. “Whoever did it is going to hell. That’s a mortal sin. God forbid he runs into a Marine that was an Iwo Jima survivor.”

“[W]e’ll stick a dadgum tree up somebody’s rear if they want that and think that’s going to cure something.”

Testy, testy. You’d think Time had put a Mohammad cartoon on the cover or something.

Dadgum is a good word.

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]]> By: TJ http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294031 TJ Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:17:48 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294031 Bob, are you confessing to having purchased <i>Time</i> in the past? ;) I will have to report this to Victoria immediately. Prepare to be BONGED. Bob, are you confessing to having purchased Time in the past? ;)

I will have to report this to Victoria immediately. Prepare to be BONGED.

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]]> By: Luke http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/comment-page-1/#comment-294029 Luke Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:13:19 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/18/equating-global-warming-with-wwii/#comment-294029 <i>"“It’s an absolute disgrace,” Mates said. “Whoever did it is going to hell."</i> Ha ha ha ha, 3 cheers for senile old WWII veterans. Time for someone's family to take away his power of attorney. ““It’s an absolute disgrace,” Mates said. “Whoever did it is going to hell.”

Ha ha ha ha, 3 cheers for senile old WWII veterans. Time for someone’s family to take away his power of attorney.

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