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		<title>By: Spinoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spinoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also good with lots of overlap:

http://stoney.sb.org/uujokes.html

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also good with lots of overlap:</p>
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		<title>By: Spinoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spinoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:18:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I know my humor is outrageous when it makes the Unitarians so mad they burn a question mark on my front lawn.&quot; -- Lenny Bruce

I originally heard this stuff on the Prairie Home Companion Joke Show - they always have Unitarian jokes - but just found a great online source: http://www.firstunitariantoronto.org/uu_humour.htm

Check out the Gilbert &amp; Sullivan re-write, &quot;I am the Very Model of a Modern Unitarian&quot; - Quite Good!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I know my humor is outrageous when it makes the Unitarians so mad they burn a question mark on my front lawn.&#8221; &#8212; Lenny Bruce</p>
<p>I originally heard this stuff on the Prairie Home Companion Joke Show &#8211; they always have Unitarian jokes &#8211; but just found a great online source: <a href="http://www.firstunitariantoronto.org/uu_humour.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.firstunitariantoronto.org/uu_humour.htm</a></p>
<p>Check out the Gilbert &amp; Sullivan re-write, &#8220;I am the Very Model of a Modern Unitarian&#8221; &#8211; Quite Good!
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<dc:creator>hrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an agnostic I wouldn&#039;t waste my time sitting in a chair or pew to discuss humanism, inspiration etc. Since all can be questioned why bother contemplate especially in a group. Group Think too closely resembles a Bush war planning meeting for my tastes. 

As for Harrison&#039;s post, someone didn&#039;t have enough fun in high school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an agnostic I wouldn&#8217;t waste my time sitting in a chair or pew to discuss humanism, inspiration etc. Since all can be questioned why bother contemplate especially in a group. Group Think too closely resembles a Bush war planning meeting for my tastes. </p>
<p>As for Harrison&#8217;s post, someone didn&#8217;t have enough fun in high school.
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		<title>By: SteveG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:03:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DCLawyer at #15: &lt;i&gt;The idea that atheists have &#8220;all the mainline denominations&#8221; is absurd and insulting. Evidently no one is Christian unless s/he subscribes to the world according to HSK. Throw out all the mainlines and Catholics and Christianity becomes very small indeed. &lt;/i&gt;

I am sure Harrison thought his dig was very, very clever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DCLawyer at #15: <i>The idea that atheists have &#8220;all the mainline denominations&#8221; is absurd and insulting. Evidently no one is Christian unless s/he subscribes to the world according to HSK. Throw out all the mainlines and Catholics and Christianity becomes very small indeed. </i></p>
<p>I am sure Harrison thought his dig was very, very clever.
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		<title>By: SteveG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:55:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spinoza: &lt;i&gt;Well as I understand it, UU prefers the term &#8220;non-theist&#8221; - our local UU pastor is a &#8220;non-theist&#8221;.&lt;/i&gt;

UUs are no one thing. In most cases, when you walk into a UU church you&#039;ll encounter some Christians, Muslims, Pagans, Buddhists, non-specific theists, non-theistic spiritual people, agnostics and maybe occasionaly a materialist-atheist. 

What unites them isn&#039;t the vertical (man-to-God) belief but the horizontal (person-to-person) dimension of religious practice. They don&#039;t tell you what to believe; they encourage you to work for the good of humanity, inspired by whatever it is you believe. 

Serious George: That&#039;s a good one. 

Perhaps the best line I&#039;ve heard about the UUs is: It&#039;s where you can go to have your answers questioned.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spinoza: <i>Well as I understand it, UU prefers the term &#8220;non-theist&#8221; &#8211; our local UU pastor is a &#8220;non-theist&#8221;.</i></p>
<p>UUs are no one thing. In most cases, when you walk into a UU church you&#8217;ll encounter some Christians, Muslims, Pagans, Buddhists, non-specific theists, non-theistic spiritual people, agnostics and maybe occasionaly a materialist-atheist. </p>
<p>What unites them isn&#8217;t the vertical (man-to-God) belief but the horizontal (person-to-person) dimension of religious practice. They don&#8217;t tell you what to believe; they encourage you to work for the good of humanity, inspired by whatever it is you believe. </p>
<p>Serious George: That&#8217;s a good one. </p>
<p>Perhaps the best line I&#8217;ve heard about the UUs is: It&#8217;s where you can go to have your answers questioned.
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		<title>By: Serious George</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serious George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:49:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry ... I can&#039;t resist.

Q: What do you get when you cross a UU with a Jehovah&#039;s witness.

A: Someone who knocks on your door to talk about nothing in particular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8230; I can&#8217;t resist.</p>
<p>Q: What do you get when you cross a UU with a Jehovah&#8217;s witness.</p>
<p>A: Someone who knocks on your door to talk about nothing in particular.
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		<title>By: Spinoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spinoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I like about UU (though I am not one) is that you are not &lt;i&gt;required&lt;/i&gt; to be a theist or a non-theist. I think it&#039;s great to have human communities that appreciate the cultural value of religion-like meetings without the ideological nonsense that too-often goes with it. And I would rather be in this environment than in one where I was &lt;i&gt;required&lt;/i&gt; to &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; believe!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I like about UU (though I am not one) is that you are not <i>required</i> to be a theist or a non-theist. I think it&#8217;s great to have human communities that appreciate the cultural value of religion-like meetings without the ideological nonsense that too-often goes with it. And I would rather be in this environment than in one where I was <i>required</i> to <b>not</b> believe!
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		<title>By: Spinoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spinoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#14 Judging by the Expelled posts, Godwin&#039;s Law clearly doesn&#039;t apply at WOW!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#14 Judging by the Expelled posts, Godwin&#8217;s Law clearly doesn&#8217;t apply at WOW!
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		<title>By: DC Lawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Lawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The key line of the article, which I found otherwise a waste of time, is this: &quot;There&#8217;s a difference between building a community and building an atheist regime.&#8221;

Churches provide many people a community.  It&#039;s a social network, a volunteer outlet, a service center, etc.  The atheist doesn&#039;t have that in a church.  Now, yes, the atheist can get that volunteering for other organizations and social clubs.  But I do think that even those who deny or question God&#039;s existence are interested in the &quot;big questions&quot; about ethics, morality, and how to live. Certainly, historically such questions have been part of Greco-Roman, Chinese, Indian, Native American heritage and that of many others irrespective of belief in god or gods.

Now others have already bashed Harrison, and I should resist.  But I can&#039;t.  The idea that atheists have &quot;all the mainline denominations&quot; is absurd and insulting.  Evidently no one is  Christian unless s/he subscribes to the world according to HSK.  Throw out all the mainlines and Catholics and Christianity becomes very small indeed. One might say, irrelevant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The key line of the article, which I found otherwise a waste of time, is this: &#8220;There&#8217;s a difference between building a community and building an atheist regime.&#8221;</p>
<p>Churches provide many people a community.  It&#8217;s a social network, a volunteer outlet, a service center, etc.  The atheist doesn&#8217;t have that in a church.  Now, yes, the atheist can get that volunteering for other organizations and social clubs.  But I do think that even those who deny or question God&#8217;s existence are interested in the &#8220;big questions&#8221; about ethics, morality, and how to live. Certainly, historically such questions have been part of Greco-Roman, Chinese, Indian, Native American heritage and that of many others irrespective of belief in god or gods.</p>
<p>Now others have already bashed Harrison, and I should resist.  But I can&#8217;t.  The idea that atheists have &#8220;all the mainline denominations&#8221; is absurd and insulting.  Evidently no one is  Christian unless s/he subscribes to the world according to HSK.  Throw out all the mainlines and Catholics and Christianity becomes very small indeed. One might say, irrelevant.
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		<title>By: Make it Man</title>
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		<dc:creator>Make it Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE #12,

Neo-Godwin&#039;s Law:

Taliban = New Nazis</description>
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<p>Neo-Godwin&#8217;s Law:</p>
<p>Taliban = New Nazis
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