Comments on: Pennsylvania’s religious vote http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:28:26 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295974 Victoria Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:36:44 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295974 Otpw - 8 YOU WRITE: .."it would seem that Obama’s underlying psotion may be that religion is a tool to channel and encourage hatred. This in stark contrast to Christ’s call to love and forgive our enemies." How right you are. Otpw – 8

YOU WRITE: ..”it would seem that Obama’s underlying psotion may be that religion is a tool to channel and encourage hatred. This in stark contrast to Christ’s call to love and forgive our enemies.”

How right you are.

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]]> By: Victoria http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295972 Victoria Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:23:40 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295972 Theo - 9 YOU WRITE:..... :arrow: "The truth is. They don’t need to. Bush tried to represent Christianity and was a mess." Who are you to judge President Bush and his beliefs or stand on Christianity? Is it your mess you need to fix? YOU WRITE:.... :arrow: "The US has a secular government. We have religious values but a secular government. I wish people would remember that." No one has forgotten, so what is your point? Are you lost? YOU WRITE:.... :arrow: "Don’t let the posing and lies distract you. They are not running to be your pastor. The are running for president. Pick the best president based on the issues that you think are most important today." Are you having trouble Theo?.... no one has said that the nominees are running to be my or your pastor, please try and follow along. We will pick the President we believe will be the best- Theo – 9

YOU WRITE:….. :arrow: “The truth is. They don’t need to. Bush tried to represent Christianity and was a mess.”

Who are you to judge President Bush and his beliefs or stand on Christianity? Is it your mess you need to fix?

YOU WRITE:…. :arrow: “The US has a secular government. We have religious values but a secular government. I wish people would remember that.”

No one has forgotten, so what is your point? Are you lost?

YOU WRITE:…. :arrow: “Don’t let the posing and lies distract you. They are not running to be your pastor. The are running for president. Pick the best president based on the issues that you think are most important today.”

Are you having trouble Theo?…. no one has said that the nominees are running to be my or your pastor, please try and follow along. We will pick the President we believe will be the best-

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]]> By: Theo Godwyn http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295970 Theo Godwyn Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:49:55 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295970 Hillary was unable to tell reporters when the last time that she attended church. She said it wasn't an issue that was important. Obama has admitted that he hasn't been able to attend church for a long time due to campaign time requirements. McCain probably hasn't attended church in years. They are all basically posing for the camera. None represent Christianity. The truth is. They don't need to. Bush tried to represent Christianity and was a mess. The US has a secular government. We have religious values but a secular government. I wish people would remember that. Don't let the posing and lies distract you. They are not running to be your pastor. The are running for president. Pick the best president based on the issues that you think are most important today. Hillary was unable to tell reporters when the last time that she attended church. She said it wasn’t an issue that was important. Obama has admitted that he hasn’t been able to attend church for a long time due to campaign time requirements. McCain probably hasn’t attended church in years.

They are all basically posing for the camera. None represent Christianity.

The truth is. They don’t need to. Bush tried to represent Christianity and was a mess. The US has a secular government. We have religious values but a secular government. I wish people would remember that.

Don’t let the posing and lies distract you. They are not running to be your pastor. The are running for president. Pick the best president based on the issues that you think are most important today.

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]]> By: otpw http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295919 otpw Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:59:05 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295919 At least we have two clues to Obama's postition on religion. Given the deafineing silence when asked to reject Wright hatemongering and Obama's indication that people cling to religion (also guns, et al) because they are bitter, it would seem that Obama's underlying psotion may be that religion is a tool to channel and encourage hatred. This in stark contrast to Christ's call to love and forgive our enemies. Hiilary seems to have adopted Bill's technique of making religious references in order pry loose the votes of those so unfamiliar with their Bibles that they gullibly swallow the "Christain" facade she attempts to construct to cover the Postmodern humanist secularism that can be the only real explanation for her action. At least we have two clues to Obama’s postition on religion. Given the deafineing silence when asked to reject Wright hatemongering and Obama’s indication that people cling to religion (also guns, et al) because they are bitter, it would seem that Obama’s underlying psotion may be that religion is a tool to channel and encourage hatred. This in stark contrast to Christ’s call to love and forgive our enemies.
Hiilary seems to have adopted Bill’s technique of making religious references in order pry loose the votes of those so unfamiliar with their Bibles that they gullibly swallow the “Christain” facade she attempts to construct to cover the Postmodern humanist secularism that can be the only real explanation for her action.

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]]> By: FVThinker http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295758 FVThinker Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:39:18 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295758 It disgusts me to listen to the religious pandering by ALL the candidates...so much so that you really don't know where they really stand on the matter of Church and State. Obama has a lot of religion whirling around him (my mother-in-law thought he was a Muslim!!!), but you get glimpses of his pragmatic, secular position on hot topics. Clinton regurgitates such saccharine religious rhetoric that I nearly want to vomit. McCain, in his previous campaign, lambasted the religious right, but now he glad-hands preachers at every turn. Sigh...what people need to do get elected... It disgusts me to listen to the religious pandering by ALL the candidates…so much so that you really don’t know where they really stand on the matter of Church and State. Obama has a lot of religion whirling around him (my mother-in-law thought he was a Muslim!!!), but you get glimpses of his pragmatic, secular position on hot topics. Clinton regurgitates such saccharine religious rhetoric that I nearly want to vomit. McCain, in his previous campaign, lambasted the religious right, but now he glad-hands preachers at every turn. Sigh…what people need to do get elected…

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]]> By: Joe B. http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295687 Joe B. Thu, 24 Apr 2008 11:17:08 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295687 A large majority of Pennsylvania is mostly rural, blue collar, pragmatic people. This people are indeed by and large moral people. Most of them are also Pro-Life. According to the President of Grove City College, many of these pro-life Democrats are fairly disillusioned with the stance of the DNC. These people are mostly union workers. And might I say that any company that has a union usually deserves one. That being said. Senator Clinton is a pragmatist and so are many of most Pennsylvanians. So are most Ohioans. This is why Clinton took both these states in the primaries. I would bet that the Clinton camp will shoot for a brokered convention. A large majority of Pennsylvania is mostly rural, blue collar, pragmatic people. This people are indeed by and large moral people. Most of them are also Pro-Life. According to the President of Grove City College, many of these pro-life Democrats are fairly disillusioned with the stance of the DNC. These people are mostly union workers. And might I say that any company that has a union usually deserves one. That being said. Senator Clinton is a pragmatist and so are many of most Pennsylvanians. So are most Ohioans. This is why Clinton took both these states in the primaries. I would bet that the Clinton camp will shoot for a brokered convention.

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]]> By: outkast http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295676 outkast Thu, 24 Apr 2008 04:52:18 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295676 And for non-religious folk such as Scroop, nothing really matters. And for non-religious folk such as Scroop, nothing really matters.

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]]> By: Sawgunner http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295594 Sawgunner Wed, 23 Apr 2008 22:02:59 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295594 Scroop, does Benedict follow US politics that closely? One wonders. These voters lined up for HRC or OBama? Arent both candidates uncompromisingly proAbortion? Doesnt abortion clash with Catholic church teaching?? Evidently to some Catholics it just doesnt matter. Scroop, does Benedict follow US politics that closely? One wonders.
These voters lined up for HRC or OBama? Arent both candidates uncompromisingly proAbortion? Doesnt abortion clash with Catholic church teaching?? Evidently to some Catholics it just doesnt matter.

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]]> By: Scroop Moth http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295567 Scroop Moth Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:34:48 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295567 The Pope was saying, "Catholics don't say, 'God <i>damn</i> America.'" The Pope was saying, “Catholics don’t say, ‘God damn America.’”

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]]> By: NJLawyer http://online.worldmag.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-295565 NJLawyer Wed, 23 Apr 2008 20:27:01 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/04/23/pennsylvanias-religious-vote/#comment-295565 I'll bite. Why does it matter that Pope Benedict said "God Bless America with a special emphasis on "bless?" I don't think his statement was anything other than a general prayer for the Nation. How is that "code" for "Vote for Hillary, PA." I’ll bite. Why does it matter that Pope Benedict said “God Bless America with a special emphasis on “bless?” I don’t think his statement was anything other than a general prayer for the Nation. How is that “code” for “Vote for Hillary, PA.”

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