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		<title>By: Cheryl D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 20:58:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Frank,

Well, considering polygamy is illegal and sex with pubescent girls is DEFINITELY illegal, it doesn&#039;t truly worry me that the state of Texas is enforcing the law. Is it unfortunate that this has become necessary? Very much so. But it IS necessary nonetheless. 

We could turn it around: &quot;When my next-door neighbor was being abused by her husband, I did nothing because she was a grown woman and she could defend herself. When the neighbor farther down the street was abusing his daughter, I did nothing because the girl&#039;s mother could defend the kid if she wanted to. And when the neighbor farther over kept his women in communes and pretended young girls were his wives, I did nothing because it wasn&#039;t my business.&quot; Yes, indeed, it is unfortunate that no one else acted and the state had to--but had to it did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frank,</p>
<p>Well, considering polygamy is illegal and sex with pubescent girls is DEFINITELY illegal, it doesn&#8217;t truly worry me that the state of Texas is enforcing the law. Is it unfortunate that this has become necessary? Very much so. But it IS necessary nonetheless. </p>
<p>We could turn it around: &#8220;When my next-door neighbor was being abused by her husband, I did nothing because she was a grown woman and she could defend herself. When the neighbor farther down the street was abusing his daughter, I did nothing because the girl&#8217;s mother could defend the kid if she wanted to. And when the neighbor farther over kept his women in communes and pretended young girls were his wives, I did nothing because it wasn&#8217;t my business.&#8221; Yes, indeed, it is unfortunate that no one else acted and the state had to&#8211;but had to it did.
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		<title>By: Frank in Phoenix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank in Phoenix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 04:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;KayVee (12):&lt;/b&gt; How many of those young girls &#8220;kidnapped by the State&#8221; turned out to be either pregnant or already had given birth?

&lt;b&gt;Frank:&lt;/b&gt; I don&#039;t honestly know. But then ... &lt;i&gt;do you?&lt;/i&gt;

Are you aware that this whole episode began with a &lt;i&gt;hoax telephone report&lt;/i&gt; to Texas police from a supposed FLDS &quot;teen bride&quot; who claimed to have given birth to her 50-some husband&#039;s child one year ago -- but who actually turned out to be an adult woman in NW Arizona with a prior record of making false reports to the police?

I&#039;m all for protecting children from the abuse you describe. But I also think that certain standards of evidence, testimony and proof should be met before families are wrenched apart by the State.

&quot;When they came for the polygamists I said nothing, because I wasn&#039;t a polygamist ...&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>KayVee (12):</b> How many of those young girls &#8220;kidnapped by the State&#8221; turned out to be either pregnant or already had given birth?</p>
<p><b>Frank:</b> I don&#8217;t honestly know. But then &#8230; <i>do you?</i></p>
<p>Are you aware that this whole episode began with a <i>hoax telephone report</i> to Texas police from a supposed FLDS &#8220;teen bride&#8221; who claimed to have given birth to her 50-some husband&#8217;s child one year ago &#8212; but who actually turned out to be an adult woman in NW Arizona with a prior record of making false reports to the police?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m all for protecting children from the abuse you describe. But I also think that certain standards of evidence, testimony and proof should be met before families are wrenched apart by the State.</p>
<p>&#8220;When they came for the polygamists I said nothing, because I wasn&#8217;t a polygamist &#8230;&#8221;
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		<title>By: mumsee</title>
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		<dc:creator>mumsee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a big row to hoe if you think you are going to keep algunes persones from eating all the cookies.  I just learned something that has me a bit miffed.  

Daughter: You know how it is against the law to talk about God in school?

Me: No.

Daughter: Well the teacher says we can&#039;t talk about God in school but we can after school. So, when I tell a story about what I heard here, I am not supposed to if it has anything about God in it. 

Homeschooling here we come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a big row to hoe if you think you are going to keep algunes persones from eating all the cookies.  I just learned something that has me a bit miffed.  </p>
<p>Daughter: You know how it is against the law to talk about God in school?</p>
<p>Me: No.</p>
<p>Daughter: Well the teacher says we can&#8217;t talk about God in school but we can after school. So, when I tell a story about what I heard here, I am not supposed to if it has anything about God in it. </p>
<p>Homeschooling here we come.
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		<title>By: Cheryl D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was in charge of the blog,

Mumsee would be respectful. Nobody would eat all the cookies. No one would accuse other people of being crazy OR of tattling. No one would use bold unless it was absolutely necessary. No one would take Scripture out of context, or use it in any way I disagreed with. No one would end sentences with prepositions. Everyone would use spell check.

Humph. That may not be two pages, but it&#039;s close enough. I still think you deserve a rap from the scepter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was in charge of the blog,</p>
<p>Mumsee would be respectful. Nobody would eat all the cookies. No one would accuse other people of being crazy OR of tattling. No one would use bold unless it was absolutely necessary. No one would take Scripture out of context, or use it in any way I disagreed with. No one would end sentences with prepositions. Everyone would use spell check.</p>
<p>Humph. That may not be two pages, but it&#8217;s close enough. I still think you deserve a rap from the scepter.
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		<title>By: Peter L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mumsee and Cheryl- Careful, Victoria may take up her claim again as rent-a-cop while Lynn is in the mend.

Michelle- Glad you made it out of China before the  earthquake!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mumsee and Cheryl- Careful, Victoria may take up her claim again as rent-a-cop while Lynn is in the mend.</p>
<p>Michelle- Glad you made it out of China before the  earthquake!
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		<title>By: mumsee</title>
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		<dc:creator>mumsee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>every line single spaced, two pages</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>every line single spaced, two pages
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		<title>By: mumsee</title>
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		<dc:creator>mumsee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:13:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tattling gets you sitting at the table writing a paper about how life would be if you were in charge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tattling gets you sitting at the table writing a paper about how life would be if you were in charge.
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		<title>By: mumsee</title>
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		<dc:creator>mumsee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You were tattling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You were tattling.
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		<title>By: Cheryl D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 01:05:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mumsee,

Loophole! Loophole! So I can say anything I want about someone on here as long as I precede it with &quot;I think...&quot; Would you let your kids get away with that? 

And I &lt;i&gt;wasn&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; whining. I was pouting, and I was asking for you to be disciplined. &lt;i&gt;Not&lt;/i&gt; whining.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mumsee,</p>
<p>Loophole! Loophole! So I can say anything I want about someone on here as long as I precede it with &#8220;I think&#8230;&#8221; Would you let your kids get away with that? </p>
<p>And I <i>wasn&#8217;t</i> whining. I was pouting, and I was asking for you to be disciplined. <i>Not</i> whining.
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		<title>By: the real Aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>the real Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 00:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the disclaimer Karen. I also think he has enough of a sense of humor to laugh along with some of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the disclaimer Karen. I also think he has enough of a sense of humor to laugh along with some of it.
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