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		<title>By: musing</title>
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		<dc:creator>musing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 20:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stubob post 33,

ah yes my fumble fingers.

Danke schoen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stubob post 33,</p>
<p>ah yes my fumble fingers.</p>
<p>Danke schoen!
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		<title>By: StuBob</title>
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		<dc:creator>StuBob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 19:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Musing (22)...

&lt;i&gt;So, and german to the topic,&lt;/i&gt;

-NARAL hat minimale Auswirkungen

- Gerade jetzt die Winde sind gegen die Republikaner zwar bei der Auswahl McCain, wie der Kandidat sie haben wohl die besten aus einer schwierigen Situation

-wenn Sie auf der Suche nach Rissen in der Demokratischen Koalition, schlage ich vor, als in dem Schwerpunkt auf NARAL Sie suchen an der falschen Stelle

;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Musing (22)&#8230;</p>
<p><i>So, and german to the topic,</i></p>
<p>-NARAL hat minimale Auswirkungen</p>
<p>- Gerade jetzt die Winde sind gegen die Republikaner zwar bei der Auswahl McCain, wie der Kandidat sie haben wohl die besten aus einer schwierigen Situation</p>
<p>-wenn Sie auf der Suche nach Rissen in der Demokratischen Koalition, schlage ich vor, als in dem Schwerpunkt auf NARAL Sie suchen an der falschen Stelle</p>
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		<title>By: musing</title>
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		<dc:creator>musing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Real AJ post 21,

so it would seem we are in general agreement that the NARAL situation is relatively moot.

I think you will find the following:

1)  the Iraq war situation still has resonance:  even McCain is talking about ending it

2)  the economy is either in a recession or essentially in a recession for most people:  this bodes ill for the party in power

3)  the old economy is the manufacutring sector:  the U.S. will need to address this sector and those employed in it somehow.  right now this is off the Rapublican radar


4)  you are right that the social agenda is perhaps the bright spot i the Republican poliitcal hpes:  touble is, as many conservative point out, McCain is not a true social conservative  :-)

So, and german to the topic,

-  NARAL has minimal impact

-  right now the winds are against the Republicans although in choosing McCain as the nominee they have arguably made the best of a difficult situation

-  if you are looking for cracks in the Democratic coalition, I suggest than in focusing on NARAL you are looking in the wrong place</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Real AJ post 21,</p>
<p>so it would seem we are in general agreement that the NARAL situation is relatively moot.</p>
<p>I think you will find the following:</p>
<p>1)  the Iraq war situation still has resonance:  even McCain is talking about ending it</p>
<p>2)  the economy is either in a recession or essentially in a recession for most people:  this bodes ill for the party in power</p>
<p>3)  the old economy is the manufacutring sector:  the U.S. will need to address this sector and those employed in it somehow.  right now this is off the Rapublican radar</p>
<p>4)  you are right that the social agenda is perhaps the bright spot i the Republican poliitcal hpes:  touble is, as many conservative point out, McCain is not a true social conservative  <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So, and german to the topic,</p>
<p>-  NARAL has minimal impact</p>
<p>-  right now the winds are against the Republicans although in choosing McCain as the nominee they have arguably made the best of a difficult situation</p>
<p>-  if you are looking for cracks in the Democratic coalition, I suggest than in focusing on NARAL you are looking in the wrong place
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		<title>By: the real Aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>the real Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:13:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Musing,

I don&#039;t believe I said major impact. I believe I said crack in the Obama base.

And no I don&#039;t think they&#039;ll swing to McCain. But some might stay home.:) But no, they definately won&#039;t vote McCain. He&#039;s not in the pro-death party.

Iraq? Yawn. Even code pink can&#039;t get more than 30 to 40 people out anymore. It&#039;s off the radar for most, except the hardcore left.

The economy is, but it&#039;s also showing signs of improving, which doesn&#039;t really benefit dems.

Not sure what you mean by old economy.

And the dems stand on immigration isn&#039;t the stand of most Americans. The last attempt at amnesty proved that. So no, that doesn&#039;t really benefit the dems either.

And with the recent overiding of the people in Cali. with regard to gay marriage, the social conservative agenda may get a much needed boost. Which wouldn&#039;t benefit dems. 

Now that I&#039;ve answered, can we stay on Topic? Or we could take it to the WV post, where it would be more appropriate. 

Sorry NJL, see how easy it is to fall for this tactic? I just did it too. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musing,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe I said major impact. I believe I said crack in the Obama base.</p>
<p>And no I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;ll swing to McCain. But some might stay home.:) But no, they definately won&#8217;t vote McCain. He&#8217;s not in the pro-death party.</p>
<p>Iraq? Yawn. Even code pink can&#8217;t get more than 30 to 40 people out anymore. It&#8217;s off the radar for most, except the hardcore left.</p>
<p>The economy is, but it&#8217;s also showing signs of improving, which doesn&#8217;t really benefit dems.</p>
<p>Not sure what you mean by old economy.</p>
<p>And the dems stand on immigration isn&#8217;t the stand of most Americans. The last attempt at amnesty proved that. So no, that doesn&#8217;t really benefit the dems either.</p>
<p>And with the recent overiding of the people in Cali. with regard to gay marriage, the social conservative agenda may get a much needed boost. Which wouldn&#8217;t benefit dems. </p>
<p>Now that I&#8217;ve answered, can we stay on Topic? Or we could take it to the WV post, where it would be more appropriate. </p>
<p>Sorry NJL, see how easy it is to fall for this tactic? I just did it too. <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: the real Aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>the real Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks NJL. Don&#039;t worry, I sometimes fall victim to it myself. :) And I think it&#039;s a deliberate tactic they use as well. The McCain thread is a perfect example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks NJL. Don&#8217;t worry, I sometimes fall victim to it myself. <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  And I think it&#8217;s a deliberate tactic they use as well. The McCain thread is a perfect example.
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		<title>By: NJLawyer</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 12:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Real AJ, I plead guilty.  I did fall for it.  That&#039;s my naivete coming through. I&#039;ll do my best not to change thread topics if you&#039;ll tell me when you catch me at it. I&#039;m usually willing to talk to anyone about anything, and it never occurred to me that the liberals were deliberately diverting threads, but you&#039;re right about the McCain thread. I&#039;ll try to be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Real AJ, I plead guilty.  I did fall for it.  That&#8217;s my naivete coming through. I&#8217;ll do my best not to change thread topics if you&#8217;ll tell me when you catch me at it. I&#8217;m usually willing to talk to anyone about anything, and it never occurred to me that the liberals were deliberately diverting threads, but you&#8217;re right about the McCain thread. I&#8217;ll try to be good.
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		<title>By: musing</title>
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		<dc:creator>musing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 01:39:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>THE REAL AJ,

and your evidence that the NARAL situation is going to have a major impact on the election?

I do find it fascinating that the Republicans seem to be grasping at any straw they can grab.

Do you really think that NARAL endoresment is going to seriously change the electoral dynamic (see post 2)?  Do you seriously believe that McCain will be significantly more attractvie than Obama to the people involved in this discussion?

Go look at the electoral dynamics in the present campaign:

1)  Iraq

2)  the economy

3)  the old economy

4)  immigration

5)  the social conservative agenda

Do you seriously believe that this dynamic will be unfavorable to Democrats?  :-)

Do you seriously believe that the present NARAL controversy will last beyond the convention or even for that matter beyond the next news cycle?

But do continue whistling.  Some argue that it may help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE REAL AJ,</p>
<p>and your evidence that the NARAL situation is going to have a major impact on the election?</p>
<p>I do find it fascinating that the Republicans seem to be grasping at any straw they can grab.</p>
<p>Do you really think that NARAL endoresment is going to seriously change the electoral dynamic (see post 2)?  Do you seriously believe that McCain will be significantly more attractvie than Obama to the people involved in this discussion?</p>
<p>Go look at the electoral dynamics in the present campaign:</p>
<p>1)  Iraq</p>
<p>2)  the economy</p>
<p>3)  the old economy</p>
<p>4)  immigration</p>
<p>5)  the social conservative agenda</p>
<p>Do you seriously believe that this dynamic will be unfavorable to Democrats?  <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Do you seriously believe that the present NARAL controversy will last beyond the convention or even for that matter beyond the next news cycle?</p>
<p>But do continue whistling.  Some argue that it may help.
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		<title>By: Sawgunner</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 01:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does NARAL get federal tax dollars as PPFA does? Im sure most of the men in NARAL are clinic operators or they are men like Hugh Hefner who support abortion since it makes possible consequence-less lifestyle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does NARAL get federal tax dollars as PPFA does? Im sure most of the men in NARAL are clinic operators or they are men like Hugh Hefner who support abortion since it makes possible consequence-less lifestyle.
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		<title>By: the real Aj</title>
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		<dc:creator>the real Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 00:16:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Musing, 1 post. And then you posted 4 about your thoughts on repubs. That&#039;s what the hijacking comments refered to. Your 4-1 ratio.
And I did refer to NJL with the &quot;people fall for it&quot; part. Because she did. 

And no, I don&#039;t mind you commenting unfavorably on conservatives. I would expect nothing less. But you completely ignore the unfavorable comments by other libs about NARALs indorsement. You changed the subject to conservatives instead. 

And this one isn&#039;t because of Op Chaos. This is all on the left. This isn&#039;t the only crack either, as I mentioned in post #15. But hey you could just ignore all that and continue on about conservatives if you wish. But it&#039;s a lame tactic, and it ignores the obvious problems in the dem party. I must go for awhile now. Yanks and Mets. I&#039;ve got to stick with my priorities, but I&#039;ll check back later, in case you decide to post on the actual subject here. I can only hope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Musing, 1 post. And then you posted 4 about your thoughts on repubs. That&#8217;s what the hijacking comments refered to. Your 4-1 ratio.<br />
And I did refer to NJL with the &#8220;people fall for it&#8221; part. Because she did. </p>
<p>And no, I don&#8217;t mind you commenting unfavorably on conservatives. I would expect nothing less. But you completely ignore the unfavorable comments by other libs about NARALs indorsement. You changed the subject to conservatives instead. </p>
<p>And this one isn&#8217;t because of Op Chaos. This is all on the left. This isn&#8217;t the only crack either, as I mentioned in post #15. But hey you could just ignore all that and continue on about conservatives if you wish. But it&#8217;s a lame tactic, and it ignores the obvious problems in the dem party. I must go for awhile now. Yanks and Mets. I&#8217;ve got to stick with my priorities, but I&#8217;ll check back later, in case you decide to post on the actual subject here. I can only hope.
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		<dc:creator>the real Aj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 00:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Check out some of the comments on blogforchoice. These women are ticked at NARAL. And alot don&#039;t seem to be pleased with Obama as the candidate either, or his answers on the questionaires. Add this to the fact that Obama has alienated the white working class with his guns and Bibles comments, and that many Hillary supporters say they won&#039;t vote for him, and you can see that there are some serious cracks in this candidates base. And you know his opponents at the RNC will seriously be working to make those cracks larger, and more obvious, once he&#039;s offically annointed as the candidate at the convention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Check out some of the comments on blogforchoice. These women are ticked at NARAL. And alot don&#8217;t seem to be pleased with Obama as the candidate either, or his answers on the questionaires. Add this to the fact that Obama has alienated the white working class with his guns and Bibles comments, and that many Hillary supporters say they won&#8217;t vote for him, and you can see that there are some serious cracks in this candidates base. And you know his opponents at the RNC will seriously be working to make those cracks larger, and more obvious, once he&#8217;s offically annointed as the candidate at the convention.
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