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		<title>By: Xion</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2008/05/20/the-search-for-depravity/comment-page-1/#comment-303861</link>
		<dc:creator>Xion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 22:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not really buying the premise that the liberal media is on a &#039;crusade&#039; hell-bent on finding people worse off than us.

The liberal media is simply on a crusade to promote liberalism which in modern society is defined as social re-engineering through the strong arm of government.

Pointing out government failure is a sweet spot for them, whether foreign or domestic, because every problem in the world is solved by fixing government.  Listen to NPR or BBC.  Every story is about something government is or isn&#039;t doing.

On the commercial side, news is marketing.  Advertisers want people and people want entertainment, tragedy, sex and violence.

I also disagree that &quot;Journalists&#8217; hunger for the images, sounds and smells of horror shows the extent to which they&#8217;ve abandoned their responsibility to analyse and make sense of events.&quot;

The last thing I want is some pretty boy talking head to try to make sense of the events.  Heaven help us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not really buying the premise that the liberal media is on a &#8216;crusade&#8217; hell-bent on finding people worse off than us.</p>
<p>The liberal media is simply on a crusade to promote liberalism which in modern society is defined as social re-engineering through the strong arm of government.</p>
<p>Pointing out government failure is a sweet spot for them, whether foreign or domestic, because every problem in the world is solved by fixing government.  Listen to NPR or BBC.  Every story is about something government is or isn&#8217;t doing.</p>
<p>On the commercial side, news is marketing.  Advertisers want people and people want entertainment, tragedy, sex and violence.</p>
<p>I also disagree that &#8220;Journalists&#8217; hunger for the images, sounds and smells of horror shows the extent to which they&#8217;ve abandoned their responsibility to analyse and make sense of events.&#8221;</p>
<p>The last thing I want is some pretty boy talking head to try to make sense of the events.  Heaven help us!
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		<title>By: NJLawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>NJLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 20:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scroopy, I was fooling with ya.  That&#039;s what the &quot;nah&quot; meant, and you fell for it.  :) Ah, liberals......

Peter Leavitt&#039;s post was far more serious, and I join it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scroopy, I was fooling with ya.  That&#8217;s what the &#8220;nah&#8221; meant, and you fell for it.  <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Ah, liberals&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>Peter Leavitt&#8217;s post was far more serious, and I join it.
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		<title>By: Spinoza</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spinoza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post proves yet again that HSK can think only in terms of crude stereotypes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post proves yet again that HSK can think only in terms of crude stereotypes.
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		<title>By: Scroop Moth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scroop Moth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 19:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NJLAWY-ERR  (keeping with the fashion of modifying the spelling of people&#039;s tags in order to hold up a mirror to them, and to be a scold,  i.e. SCROOP MOUTH, which I love, and ANLIAR, which is lame)

Since liberals are depraved, they can&#039;t know it.  Someone on an adjacent thread just played Romans 1  -- &quot;God has given them up to their own depraved way of thinking . . . they not only do these things themselves but approve such conduct in others.&quot;  As the apostle says in that immortal passage, all liberal thinking has ended in futility.  It&#039;s over.  Their misguided minds are plunged in darkness. Depravity puts liberals beyond remorse.

You&#039;d have to admit, NJ, that a liberal would make an &lt;i&gt;unsuccessful&lt;/i&gt; depravity monger, ignorantly missing the evil under his nose and getting scooped by WorldMag. 

In the face of terrible things, the liberal elitist whom Harrison presents for our consideration is blaming &lt;i&gt;journalists&lt;/i&gt; of all people.  You&#039;d think Harrison would be attacking him for shooting the messengers, but I think Harrison&#039;s confused.  My point is that reporters who search out the key to human experience in a religious explanation like depravity are submitting to market discipline.  They owe it to their careers and families.  

If I were a journalist, my self respect would urge me to tell people the truth that suffering is due to neglect of liberal remedies.  But when the customers prefer the taste of Calvinism and are reassured by the just deserts of others, I&#039;m afraid I&#039;d have to go ahead and tell them that all the world needs is a Savior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NJLAWY-ERR  (keeping with the fashion of modifying the spelling of people&#8217;s tags in order to hold up a mirror to them, and to be a scold,  i.e. SCROOP MOUTH, which I love, and ANLIAR, which is lame)</p>
<p>Since liberals are depraved, they can&#8217;t know it.  Someone on an adjacent thread just played Romans 1  &#8212; &#8220;God has given them up to their own depraved way of thinking . . . they not only do these things themselves but approve such conduct in others.&#8221;  As the apostle says in that immortal passage, all liberal thinking has ended in futility.  It&#8217;s over.  Their misguided minds are plunged in darkness. Depravity puts liberals beyond remorse.</p>
<p>You&#8217;d have to admit, NJ, that a liberal would make an <i>unsuccessful</i> depravity monger, ignorantly missing the evil under his nose and getting scooped by WorldMag. </p>
<p>In the face of terrible things, the liberal elitist whom Harrison presents for our consideration is blaming <i>journalists</i> of all people.  You&#8217;d think Harrison would be attacking him for shooting the messengers, but I think Harrison&#8217;s confused.  My point is that reporters who search out the key to human experience in a religious explanation like depravity are submitting to market discipline.  They owe it to their careers and families.  </p>
<p>If I were a journalist, my self respect would urge me to tell people the truth that suffering is due to neglect of liberal remedies.  But when the customers prefer the taste of Calvinism and are reassured by the just deserts of others, I&#8217;m afraid I&#8217;d have to go ahead and tell them that all the world needs is a Savior.
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		<title>By: Peter Leavitt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Leavitt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is nothing more righteous in the world than a breathless liberal media anchor commenting on a natural disaster and the evil of governmental response whether to Katrina, Myanmar, or Szechuan. They exult at the sordid images of disasters and the inevitably feeble responses of men and women to ameliorate them. 

It never occurs to these poor characters that they and their precious networks in behaving as ratings vultures are themselves richly involved in evil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is nothing more righteous in the world than a breathless liberal media anchor commenting on a natural disaster and the evil of governmental response whether to Katrina, Myanmar, or Szechuan. They exult at the sordid images of disasters and the inevitably feeble responses of men and women to ameliorate them. </p>
<p>It never occurs to these poor characters that they and their precious networks in behaving as ratings vultures are themselves richly involved in evil.
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		<title>By: NJLawyer</title>
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		<dc:creator>NJLawyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 17:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah, I think the liberals are starting to realize just how depraved they&#039;ve become and they need to find people who they can label as worse so they can feel better about themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah, I think the liberals are starting to realize just how depraved they&#8217;ve become and they need to find people who they can label as worse so they can feel better about themselves.
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		<title>By: Scroop Moth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scroop Moth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 15:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Conservatives like to see the news as an illustration of personal moral depravity and the fitness of the template provided by orthodox theology.  Harrison especially likes to see liberals and secularists reach for conservative explanations for troubling phenomenon.  

Harrison offers the Spiked article as evidence that liberals have betrayed their principles by borrowing the language of God to account for reality. Sorry to spoil his fun, but I don&#039;t think it does. this.  The member of the &quot;liberal elite&quot; who wrote the article clearly is furious at journalists who pull Calvinism out of wikipedia to write the news.  Harrison seems to assume that because journalists belong to the &quot;liberal elite,&quot; the organizing concepts of their stories have something to do with liberalism, but the conclusion doesn&#039;t follow.  I think the depravity journalism is a function of supply and demand.

Since conservatives make up the bulk of the market for mass media, it&#039;s not surprising that journalism supplies the demand.  Fox News didn&#039;t spring from the brain of Roger Ailes.  The article in Spiked criticizes journalists for pandering to conservatives, it doesn&#039;t betray the secularist theory of the good and the bad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservatives like to see the news as an illustration of personal moral depravity and the fitness of the template provided by orthodox theology.  Harrison especially likes to see liberals and secularists reach for conservative explanations for troubling phenomenon.  </p>
<p>Harrison offers the Spiked article as evidence that liberals have betrayed their principles by borrowing the language of God to account for reality. Sorry to spoil his fun, but I don&#8217;t think it does. this.  The member of the &#8220;liberal elite&#8221; who wrote the article clearly is furious at journalists who pull Calvinism out of wikipedia to write the news.  Harrison seems to assume that because journalists belong to the &#8220;liberal elite,&#8221; the organizing concepts of their stories have something to do with liberalism, but the conclusion doesn&#8217;t follow.  I think the depravity journalism is a function of supply and demand.</p>
<p>Since conservatives make up the bulk of the market for mass media, it&#8217;s not surprising that journalism supplies the demand.  Fox News didn&#8217;t spring from the brain of Roger Ailes.  The article in Spiked criticizes journalists for pandering to conservatives, it doesn&#8217;t betray the secularist theory of the good and the bad.
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