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Today’s quote is from a former British prime minister: “The legacy of heroes is the memory of a great name and the inheritance of a great example.”
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What is the legacy of the righteous?
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Benjamin Disraeli?
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KBells–Enjoy your virtual coffee of the day!
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Cheryl D: Re WV 5/24/08 #31- You said “Yes, I’ve heard that rewording in recent years (since 9/11) and it does make some sense. But really, we honor God and God blesses us. I don’t think it’s really accurate to speak of people “blessing” God, since He lives above human blessings and cursings. I think “God bless America” should be seen as a request, really a prayer, and not a demand or a mere slogan.”
A couple of people answered you. Here is another:
1 Bless the LORD, O my soul,
And all that is within me, bless His holy name.
2 Bless the LORD, O my soul,
And forget none of His benefits;
3 Who pardons all your iniquities,
Who heals all your diseases;
4 Who redeems your life from the pit,
Who crowns you with lovingkindness and compassion;
5 Who satisfies your years with good things,
So that your youth is renewed like the eagle.
(Psalm 103: 1-5, NASB)
Yes, this passage is talking to the individual, but in many ways it can apply to a nation. How much has God done for America? For us not to return the blessing is like not thanking someone for a favor.
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I’m just finishing up reading *The Frank Family That Survived* by Gordon Sander. It has been very interesting, especially in light of it being Memorial Day. It is about another Frank family unrelated to Ann and Otto Frank and who managed to survive as a family by diving under during WWII in Holland. I thought this paragraph from the book was quite interesting:
“Dutch ‘war guilt’ was a major factor in Dutch foreign policy in the immediate postwar period. For many years, the Netherlands was Israel’s best friend in Europe, for which the Dutch were duly punished in 1974 when Holland became the only European nation to be targeted by OPEC for an oil boycott.” pg. 261
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REG: When you ask about the legacy of the righteous, you are asking something different from the rewards of righteousness.
Ps. 103:17 “The mercy of the LORD is from everlasting to everlasting upon those that fear him, and his righteousness unto children’s children.”
The best example of that is God’s response to Abraham in Genesis 22:15-18.
There is some controversy about I Cor. 7:14, but it is clear that part of the meaning is that the legacy of a righteous person is children who are more likely to follow in his steps.
In my later years, III John 1:4 has become one of my favorite verses:
“I have no greater joy than to hear that my children walk in the truth.
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Re: #6: I was teaching a group of ladies in Sunday School once, and I reminded them to be diligent, “You may be the only person to pray for your children.”
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When I first heard of someone “blessing” God, I thought it a little odd, until I thought about it more – and saw the references to doing so in the Psalms.
Essentially, it seems like you could use the word “praise” or “honor” interchangeably with “bless” in the way that it’s used.
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6&7, INFJ–
true to form! Thanks for the feedback!!
INFJ
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Happy Memorial Day and thank you to all our veterans.
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Peter L.,
Someone pointed those out on another thread, and I thanked her. The meaning of our blessing God and His blessing us do seem to be different, though, and I can’t see that it’s either/or. We don’t deserve His blessing, but then, we never do deserve grace.
My church picnic got cancelled this afternoon due to potentially dangerous weather. I guess I’ll get some work done. One of my brothers is coming to town later in the week, so I guess that will be my “holiday” instead. And I’m editing a book for him (my brother) on Vietnam POWs, so I suppose that’s a good project for Memorial Day!
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You’re welcome Godlumps and REG. But how did you know I am INFJ? Did we discuss that at some time?
Or am I acting like one? I am INFJ, BTW.
Yesterday, we had a brief recognition of veterans and a prayer for the families of the slain. An interesting twist. Pastor Ron recognized WW II, then Korean, Viet Nam, on to the present. The sobering thing was how few WW II veterans we have left. My SS class has several. My SS teacher was a chaplain during WW II.
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INFJ–
We discussed this earlier. You are acting like one!!
INFJ
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What does INFJ mean?
“I’m nuts for Jesus?”
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Cheryl – In catching up with some older threads, I came across your last comment on the MySpace Suicide thread (about remembering how it felt to be 13).
I appreciated what you wrote. So many forget how very emotionally vulnerable kids are at that age. Things that we adults can shrug off or deal with can be utterly devastating to a teen.
My pastor’s wife (who’s also my dear friend) also has that empathy with teens, & ministers to them so well. I’m sure you must be wonderful with girls of that age.
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Karen O,
INFJ is one of the 16 Myers-Briggs personality types. There are four sets of characteristics, and in each of the four a person will fall somewhere on a continuum from one extreme to the other.
For instance, I stands for Introvert, the opposite of which is E for Extrovert. N stands for iNtuition, which is opposed to S for Sensing (meaning getting information through the five senses). F is for Feeling, which is contrasted with T for Thinking. The last two have names which don’t seem to really fit what they mean, but they have to do with whether you prefer to have matters settled (J for Judging) or keep your options open (P for Perceiving).
My husband is ENFJ, but he’s very close to P on the last one, so his personality is sort of in between an ENFJ and an ENFP.
I’m an ISTJ, and on the first characteristic at least, I’m at the extreme end of the continuum. I’m about as introverted as one can be. I want facts, not gut feelings, and I’m so oriented to thinking rather than feeling that I’ve had to make a conscious effort to learn to notice my emotions rather than ignoring them. And I certainly prefer to have most things settled rather than undecided (though I have to admit I often find it hard to make decisions).
If I had known all that when I was younger, I probably wouldn’t have made the mistake of trying to teach high school. I forget what personality type is a particularly good fit for teaching children, but it sure isn’t ISTJ. ISTJ’s are much more suited to the types of work I’ve been doing for the past twenty years – computer programming, accounting, auditing.
There’s a great book called Please Understand Me that goes through all the different types, and their implications for career, marriage, and parenting. That was how I learned that it wasn’t a defect to be an introvert, and that it’s not that I don’t like people, I just find it tiring to be around people for any length of time. Being alone builds up my energy. Extroverts tend to be the opposite – they get charged up by being around people.
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Introvert
iNtuitive
Feeling
Judgemental
Did I say it right, Chas?
It is one of sixteen Meyer-Brigg Personality Types
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REG: Correct. Actually, as Pauline, I’m extreme on the I, Strong on the J, and just above the line (25,23) on N & F. At the Naval War College, we took a battery of tests, of which Myers-Briggs was only one, and had to write our own personality assessment and career development plans.
Turns out, I didn’t have a personality. And my career didn’t go according to plan. But it turned out well.
As I mentioned, yesterday at church, veterans were recognized, and they were thanked on TV tonight. But this day isn’t about veterans, Veteran’s Day is for that. It’s about those who died in defense of our country.
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On FoxNews tonight, they were discussing the two competing GI Bill plans. McCain thinks that if Webb’s plan is passed, many will leave the service imediately. I suspect that is what Webb wants.
In 1952, I was a radio operator on B-29’s out of Dhahran, Saudi Arabia. I had just been promoted to S/Sgt, an NCO rank, and I was ready to re-enlist for a career in the Air Force. This poor kid never had it so good.
Then, Congress, in it’s wisdom, passed the Korean GI Bill. I applied to the U. of S. Carolina, was accepted, and left all that behind. It worked out well for me, though I never thought I diserved it.
I’m telling this to illustrate that McCain is correct. The structure of our military now is such that we need veterans in the service; Career men who know what they’re doing. Good pay, adequate quarters, and care for the families is what is important to the servicemen.
In 1979, A 4-star, speaking at the Naval WC, said, in effect (paraphrasing) “The men will tolerate any conditions when deployed if they’re confident their families are cared for.”
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Victoria,
I just went back to the sex change thread to see if you ever responded to my last comments (and I see you did not). In rereading your comments about how I, as a nonmother, can’t really know anything about children and teens, something caught my eye: your reference to kids who “pop in and out of my life.” I realized you may see my contact with children as limited to a week or a month, and that could change the picture.
For the record, I’ve had kids who were (or are) part of my life for the better part of their childhood. For example, I spent seven years in my last Chicago house, and had kids who came by my home daily for several years. I was in the same Chicago church for 14 years (in heavy involvement with its children’s programs and the children in those programs–many of whom lived in my neighborhood for a double dose of interaction with me), and have been in my current church for five years. Those time periods are long enough to get to know children in a deeper way than popping in and out of one another’s lives.
I just thought you might want to know that, and it might help your assumption against the possibility of a non-parent ever knowing a particular child well or knowing anything about children in general! (And of course I’ve known my nieces and nephews, several of them now in their mid to late twenties, their entire lives.)
Anyway, since that thread seems to be dead, I thought I’d make that comment here. I hope you have a great week!
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