Comments on: The killing fields of Kansas

By: Mickel

Mickel — Sat, 07 Jun 2008 16:03:17 +0000

Friends – be of good cheer. Revival is on the way – however it will not arrive through a political vehicle but from a venue of God’s own choosing.

Until then, be salt and be light. Truly, it’s the only thing we can faithfully do.

Joel – I missed telling you Happy 2nd Anniversary!! (now that you are half way to your third) Good to see you still at your post!

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By: worthygirl

worthygirl — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 13:47:03 +0000

I no longer live in Wichita, but I did for 10 years. I spent many days on the sidewalk in front of Tiller’s with my friend praying. I, too, have seen the ash floating toward the heavens. It truly is a grievous sight.
At one point in time I was very political. I was very active in the “grass roots movement.” I thought that getting the right politician elected would make a difference. However, I have noted that nothing has changed during the course of the past 40 years- except we are more depraved than ever.
I am no longer political- I still vote, but that is about it. Now, I pray. I pray and I pray and I pray until my DNA chooses Jesus.

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By: Joel Mark

Joel Mark — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:24:17 +0000

Fyne Jr.,

When I first read your post, I felt defensive. But upon reflection, you make many good points. But don’t let cynicism grow. Complacency grows from the soil of cynicism. And you may be right about the complacency on the pro-life right, but never forget who it is who is actively and radically using the courts, public revenues and resources and the media to force us into being a pro-abortion culture (despite the rhortical twists and denials the left uses to disingenuously claim they are not “pro-abortion”).

We don’t make great gains against our complacency by shooting the wounded on our own side.

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By: Fyne Jr.

Fyne Jr. — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 08:37:00 +0000

None of the the actions by the liberal culprits in this post offend me that much anymore. It’s like going numb from too much familiarity with evil. The real tragedy is complacency of the gang of Chrisitian conservative republicans under whom this scum still thrived.
I used to be very passionately pro-life. I think I still am. I don’t know. I may have become disillusioned with it about a couple of years ago. I think it was when I remembered watching a pro-life rally on C-SPAN. I saw so many talking heads, politicians, etc, vomit pro-life talk. I remember thinking to myself, that I didn’t recognize a lot of those guys. I never heard from them, or about them. The next year, I saw them again. And then I remembered that the last time I saw or heard of them, they were at this same spot, protesting abortion. Year after year, it was the same. That’s what pro-life politicians are today. Honorary guests at the next pro-life rally. And completely obscure for the rest of the year, never to be heard of or from, till the next rally.
It is stories like Tony walking past the rising ashes of burnt infant corpses that make me more enraged as I think of imbecilic behaviours like the attempt by preachers (who should know better), to establish a manifesto pretty much rebuking those who dared to cry out. The number one priority today, is apparently to be like Christ by not pissing off anybody. Oh and feed the poor.
Anything that can be done for the unborn, must be done with a willingness to fight both the culprits and even complacent allies. I watch my christian friends pray for christian pro-life politicians, and wonder what they think will happen. We had em. We’ve had em for a while now. And nothing. It’s been about 40 years since rvw. Nothing. A ban here, a reduction but sustained legality there, and pats on the back.
Yet in a town of “onward christian soldiers,” the ashes continue to rise.

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By: Kathy

Kathy — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:51:29 +0000

I used to walk in front of Tiller’s killing grounds, and on some days you could see ash drifting up from a pipe in the roof of his compound, because he incinerates the corpses on site.

The first thought that came to my head was “German crematoria”. It’s not surprising that many refer tho abortion as “the new Holocaust”.

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By: Sawgunner

Sawgunner — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 17:03:55 +0000

My heart grieves at the thought of the incinerated fetuses. One day we will all stand in heaven and confront the millions who were innocent yet executed in utero. No eye will be dry on that day either.

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By: Joel Mark

Joel Mark — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:56:03 +0000

Point well taken, AJones.

I don’t know of any pro-traditional family advocates who could imagine being able to use the courts to impose their moral will on the people over the clear will of the voters. And maybe there is something good about that. The right tends to be more about persuation, while the left more often resorts to public resources or legal enforcement to impose their policies and will on society.

But there is some truth to the criticism of the right that we tend to “stand idly by” when the left gets agressive.

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By: AJones

AJones — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:53:23 +0000

Joel:
Conservatives do not believe the courts should be used to advance political agendas that fail in the political arena. The branches of government were meant to be a check and balance to one another. The idea that California Courts can thwart the will of the people seems wrong even to Gov. S. It sort of reminds me of those words “when in the course of human events that the government ceases to be of the people, for the people, and by the people it becomes necessary …”

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By: Joel Mark

Joel Mark — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:36:18 +0000

I mentioned the ACLU. In my view, it is also an example that the anti-Christian left has long been more aggressive in using the courts and public resources to enforce secular policies and punishments than the pro-Christian right ever was.

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By: kimberly

kimberly — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:15:35 +0000

That’s a very vividly-drawn picture about the ash, Tony.

I live in Kansas but not in Wichita, so I haven’t seen it before.

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