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By: Chas

Chas — Mon, 16 Jun 2008 00:37:59 +0000

Kim, I envied your lunch. Where do you find speckled butterbeans anymore?
You and George need to take the advice your boss gave.

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By: Kim

Kim — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:37:39 +0000

Thanks NJL. I am remembering little things. Some little ditties he taught me that my mother had a screaming fit over
Chas will appreciate that my lunch today will be tomato gravy and rice and purple hull peas and speckled butterbeans. All cooked with REAL bacon. I am currently on the high fat high carb diet, but it makes me feel good to eat something that he would have made such a pig of himself over. Chloe called her dad this morning to wish him a Happy Father’s day but he was sleeping in. The old geeser had his 30th high school reunion last night!!!

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By: NJLawyer

NJLawyer — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:23:49 +0000

Kim, it will take time. It took me over a year to get right again. Coca-cola stock went up that year because I needed a coke to settle my stomach first thing in the morning. My father’s death was a physical shock to my system, felt right to the tips of my fingers and toes. I remembered all sorts of things about my father that came pouring out for a long time. My best friend and I would sit on the boardwalk (sometimes we still do) reminiscing about our dads. Your Dad will never leave you, and you will find yourself referring to what he would have done in this or that situation all time now. Enjoy those memories.

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By: Jon Rowe

Jon Rowe — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 16:03:25 +0000

Friends,

At my new group blog American Creation we have a post that embeds a great video Stephen Waldman of Beliefnet did on his new book about the Founding Fathers. Waldman’s view closely parallels mine: It is a nuanced middle ground between what you commonly hear from the secular left and religious right. And he agrees with me that the key Founders were neither Deists nor orthodox Trinitarian Christians, but somewhere in between (essentially “unitarians” or “theistic rationalists”).

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By: SteveG

SteveG — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:13:05 +0000

Cheryl: If there were real, credible evidence of it, don’t you think he’d have been confronted with it in a big way by now?

Here is one good debunking.

The thing is, you’re going to hear people claim that Obama is a secret radical Muslim, and you’re going to hear people say he’s a crazy Christian based on his history with Trinity UCC. In some cases you’ll hear the same people saying both, heedless of the contradiction.

They don’t care about the truth, they just care about discrediting a politician they don’t like by any means available. They will bear their false witness with gleeful smiles and then go sit smugly in their pews and think themselves righteous.

It should be truly sickening for any real Christian to watch.

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By: mumsee

mumsee — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:11:08 +0000

Happy Father’s Day all you fathers out there. I hope those with older children can reflect on a job well done, enjoying the fruits of your efforts and those with younger will make the effort to serve Christ in serving their children, bringing them up in the way they should go.

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By: Kim

Kim — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:50:35 +0000

God has a way of taking care of things. Today is my first Father’s Day. I woke up sometime after midnight to realize that and started to feel sorry for myself. Chloe woke up about that time sick. She threw up all over the house for a couple of hours. Completely forgot to feel sorry for myself. Just 15 more hours to go.

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By: Chas

Chas — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 11:36:53 +0000

The man on the radio said that there are more collect calls made on father’s Day than any other.

Do people still make collect calls? I have never received one that I remember. And I haven’t made one since I got out of the AF in 1952.

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By: Cheryl D.

Cheryl D. — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:57:54 +0000

Steve G,

I have no idea whether there’s credible evidence of that or not. I don’t exactly think it’s “irrelevant”–it might actually be good to have a leader with that background if he had repudiated it, bad if he had not. But apparently others on this thread have seen some sort of evidence, credible or otherwise, and so to quickly say, “There’s no evidence” isn’t exactly true. You might be able to say, “Here’s proof that that evidence is weak,” but apparently you can’t really say, “There’s no evidence.” (FYI, I’m making a distinction between “evidence” and “proof” and between “evidence” and “truth.” The blue dress was evidence that Bill Clinton wasn’t telling the truth…but it wasn’t proof until the DNA tests came back.)

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By: SteveG

SteveG — Sun, 15 Jun 2008 03:38:41 +0000

Well Cheryl … there’s no evidence that Obama was raised a Muslim. He says he wasn’t. Fox News already tried floating that with his early-life school enrollment, and it was thoroughly debunked.

You should ask yourself: why are some people determined to believe it and to grasp at any shred of hope that it’s true, when it quite clearly isn’t?

And also: Even if he had been “raised a Muslim” for the first few years of his life, what difference would it make?

The whole issue is a lame attempt to play on ignorant fears. There is a paranoid belief in some quarters that he is a “secret Muslim” with terrorist connections and a hidden plan to do America harm, and stupid stuff like what AJ raised and Outkast predictably chortled over plays right into.

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