Comments on: Maggie Gallagher on the implications of gay marriage http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:53:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: momof5 http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312886 momof5 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 20:08:09 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312886 Anlir, if that happens, I'll pray for that child (and any "partners"), love that child just as much as the straight ones, and continue to disagree strenuously with the sinful behavior. Disagreement does NOT = hate. BTW, my opinion doesn't ultimately matter anyway. God's does. I'd disagree strenuously with a child who chose any sort of sexual activity outside of monogamous, heterosexual marriage, for the same reason. Anlir, if that happens, I’ll pray for that child (and any “partners”), love that child just as much as the straight ones, and continue to disagree strenuously with the sinful behavior. Disagreement does NOT = hate. BTW, my opinion doesn’t ultimately matter anyway. God’s does. I’d disagree strenuously with a child who chose any sort of sexual activity outside of monogamous, heterosexual marriage, for the same reason.

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]]> By: Anlir http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312846 Anlir Thu, 19 Jun 2008 19:08:51 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312846 Karma would lean toward Momof5 ending up with a gay kid. Karma would lean toward Momof5 ending up with a gay kid.

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]]> By: momof5 http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312792 momof5 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:39:16 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312792 It occurs to me that the state that has legalized gay marriage is the same one that attempted to briefly outlaw homeschooling (also by judicial fiat). Interesting trend in the movement for "freedom". It occurs to me that the state that has legalized gay marriage is the same one that attempted to briefly outlaw homeschooling (also by judicial fiat). Interesting trend in the movement for “freedom”.

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]]> By: momof5 http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312787 momof5 Thu, 19 Jun 2008 16:32:52 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312787 One thing this whole debate has sharpened for me is my responsibility as a parent not to hand over my kids to any organization, including schools or even church classes. I don't trust that the organization screens as carefully as I would any more. I am not suggesting that homosexual = predator, but just acknowledging that we really don't have a collective sense of right and wrong any more on a number of issues. The fact that schools, daycare centers, etc are intimidated by claims of bigotry for screening out potential employees that most parents would be uncomfortable with makes me extra, extra careful about who has access to my kids. The debate about gay marriage strikes at the very heart of the home, and demonstrates the power of the gov't to override parents' choices for their own kids. One thing this whole debate has sharpened for me is my responsibility as a parent not to hand over my kids to any organization, including schools or even church classes. I don’t trust that the organization screens as carefully as I would any more. I am not suggesting that homosexual = predator, but just acknowledging that we really don’t have a collective sense of right and wrong any more on a number of issues. The fact that schools, daycare centers, etc are intimidated by claims of bigotry for screening out potential employees that most parents would be uncomfortable with makes me extra, extra careful about who has access to my kids. The debate about gay marriage strikes at the very heart of the home, and demonstrates the power of the gov’t to override parents’ choices for their own kids.

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]]> By: Night Train http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312751 Night Train Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:41:39 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312751 True, Tychicus, but every year the percentage of people opposed to gay marriage gets smaller. The majority is no longer a vast one. One poll in CA shows a very slim majority (52%) saying they will vote for the amendment to ban gay marriage; another shows only 47% saying they will vote for the amendment. The vote looks like it's going to be a lot closer than it would've been 10 years ago. And if you look at people under 30, something like 80% of them favor gay marriage. It's only a matter of time until gay marriage is legal in every state. True, Tychicus, but every year the percentage of people opposed to gay marriage gets smaller. The majority is no longer a vast one. One poll in CA shows a very slim majority (52%) saying they will vote for the amendment to ban gay marriage; another shows only 47% saying they will vote for the amendment. The vote looks like it’s going to be a lot closer than it would’ve been 10 years ago. And if you look at people under 30, something like 80% of them favor gay marriage. It’s only a matter of time until gay marriage is legal in every state.

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]]> By: Tychicus http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312634 Tychicus Thu, 19 Jun 2008 09:30:24 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312634 <i>The vast majority of Americans have no ill will toward gay people and want them treated equally under the law.</i> While this statement is basically true, it's also true that the vast majority of Americans (who have voted on this issue) have sided with the traditional definition of marriage. The vast majority of Americans have no ill will toward gay people and want them treated equally under the law.

While this statement is basically true, it’s also true that the vast majority of Americans (who have voted on this issue) have sided with the traditional definition of marriage.

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]]> By: Luke http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312632 Luke Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:49:53 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312632 <em>"Well, there are 26 letters in the alphabet so at least now we have a practical cap or limit on how many “parties” can make up a marriage in California."</em> This is why conservatives are such abysmal failures in the information age, no political imagination. Dummy, you start again with AB, BB, CB, etc. If Excel can do it, I don't see why mass polygamists should be excluded, but where was you're slippery slope then? I mean, when you think about it, hasn't the whole alpha-numeric system just been marching toward gay-mass-polygamy from the start of things? Another reason for all you people to home school? “Well, there are 26 letters in the alphabet so at least now we have a practical cap or limit on how many “parties” can make up a marriage in California.”

This is why conservatives are such abysmal failures in the information age, no political imagination.

Dummy, you start again with AB, BB, CB, etc. If Excel can do it, I don’t see why mass polygamists should be excluded, but where was you’re slippery slope then?

I mean, when you think about it, hasn’t the whole alpha-numeric system just been marching toward gay-mass-polygamy from the start of things?

Another reason for all you people to home school?

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]]> By: SteveG http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312612 SteveG Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:41:26 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312612 Joel Mark has a pathological need to leap straight to the most absurd extreme of the supposed slippery slope. If we let two men marry each other, why the next thing you know, a woman will marry the coffee maker and they'll cohabit with the ferret. Doom!! From where I sit, the sky does not appear to be falling. But Joel Mark lives in a much more surreal world, I think. Joel Mark has a pathological need to leap straight to the most absurd extreme of the supposed slippery slope.

If we let two men marry each other, why the next thing you know, a woman will marry the coffee maker and they’ll cohabit with the ferret. Doom!!

From where I sit, the sky does not appear to be falling. But Joel Mark lives in a much more surreal world, I think.

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]]> By: Anlir http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312603 Anlir Thu, 19 Jun 2008 02:08:26 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312603 Clearly California should cater to Joel's uncomfortableness with reading legal contracts, which is what a marriage application/license is after all. I know that "Party A" and "Party B" are scary legal terms that no commoner could possibly make sense of, much less pronounce. Clearly California should cater to Joel’s uncomfortableness with reading legal contracts, which is what a marriage application/license is after all. I know that “Party A” and “Party B” are scary legal terms that no commoner could possibly make sense of, much less pronounce.

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]]> By: Joel Mark http://online.worldmag.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/comment-page-1/#comment-312601 Joel Mark Thu, 19 Jun 2008 01:47:47 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/06/18/maggie-gallagher-on-the-implications-of-gay-marriage/#comment-312601 To correct a detail in #8: The new California marriage licence applications have apparently replaced the words “husband” and “wife” not with “Partner A” and “Partner B," but with "Party" A and "Party B." Well, there are 26 letters in the alphabet so at least now we have a practical cap or limit on how many "parties" can make up a marriage in California. To correct a detail in #8:

The new California marriage licence applications have apparently replaced the words “husband” and “wife” not with “Partner A” and “Partner B,” but with “Party” A and “Party B.”

Well, there are 26 letters in the alphabet so at least now we have a practical cap or limit on how many “parties” can make up a marriage in California.

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