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I didn’t think so, dishonest coward. I’ll happily retract that assessment of your personal behavior if you pony up the content, O Fount Of Know-Nothing. Seriously. Where is the sainting and glossing? Only you know where, son.

Solon, how do you get off claiming that Hitler was an atheist when there is so much evidence to the contrary? You are truly incapable of free thought. That’s OK, my antiquated friend (some things do get better with age, eh?). Keep drinking that Kool-Aid.

2nd inaugural address vs take your pick of God-invoking Hitler speeches. Cognitive Dissonance

Now, your last paragraph I am extremely delighted to read because I realize that we have common ground regarding the science. Yet you are caught up in some contrived manufactroversy regarding a ‘culture war’. To be honest, it sounds waaaaay more like “YOU DARWINISTS GIT OFFN MY LAWN” than anything that you have dedicated a single neuron to thinking about.

#13

Because if evolution were true, then faith in Christ would be futile.

So much for your puny faith. Even solon disagrees with you (cue moving goalposts regarding the definition of ‘evolution’).

It’s the same as talking to stones.

Eppur si muove

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do you have any science supporting what you say?

verything science calls natural selection is turning out to be pre-existing genetic code being expressed differently under different conditions.

So you think DNA is like a lego set? Pardon the entire world for not taking you seriously.

weekender, where is your so-called “science”?

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If humans accept that they too have evolved, whatever purposes they assign, they do so by their own choice.

This means humans are free of revealed knowledge from a non-existent creator; they are free to make choices; they are obliged to learn and to think. They are responsible for their actions and values.

Darwin gave us a freedom most people are not willing to accept. We have to be ethical without fear of divine punishment. We have to live a life of virtue for its own sake because there is no Heaven awaiting us. We have to accept our mortality and justify the satisfaction of living without the existence of an afterlife. No religion has ever given humans such unrestricted freedom, such a responsibility, and such a task. Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection gives humans, with their evolved brains, a capacity for self-examination, for wonder, for deeper meaning, and for the nurturing values that sustain us in our relatively short stay in this unbroken journey of life that now extends over three billion years. And that is why Darwin deserves to be called a Great Emancipator.

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Darwin Day Celebration
AN INTERNATIONAL RECOGNITION OF SCIENCE AND HUMANITY

Lincoln & Darwin – The Emancipators’ Legacies

“These two great men were born on the same day, in the same year: Sunday, February 12, 1809.”

“Lincoln freed American slaves from physical servitude while Darwin freed the human mind from the bonds of supernatural dogma.”

“In America we are aware that both Abraham Lincoln and Charles Darwin were born on the same day, in the same year, February 12, 1809. As a result of this coincidence I was asked the following question during an interview on BBC in Shrewsbury, England (Darwin’s birthplace) on July 30, 2003 : ‘Since Lincoln and Darwin were born on the same day, how do you deal with this obvious problem when you’re celebrating science and humanity on Darwin’s birthday?’ I replied: ‘In my view, Feb. 12, 1809 was a very good day for our planet because Lincoln became the great emancipator of the slaves in America, and Darwin became the great emancipator of the human mind, so they both deserve to be celebrated!’ As I thought about this reply after the broadcast, it seemed to me that there was something particularly poignant about the relationship between Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection, published November 24, 1859, that freed the human mind from superstition, thus permitting the interpretation of scientific data through the lens of naturalism instead of through the lens of theology, and Lincoln’s signing of the Emancipation Proclamation on January 1, 1863, that freed humans from physical servitude. Together their actions represent a major step forward in the acquisition of freedoms for the entire human family. The magnitude of these accomplishments by visionary men, born on the same day, in the same year, gives their achievements a unique resonance, and enormous benefits have accrued to humankind ever since. Today both men are recognized around the world for the ongoing positive effect their efforts have had on developing the ethics of progressive modern thought.”

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Q. Now, there’s a gentleman named Charles Darwin who played some role here. I was wondering, who was Charles Darwin?

A. Charles Darwin was a British naturalist who was born on February 12th, 1809. If memory serves me well, that’s a better-than-average day for the history of humankind because Abraham Lincoln was born on exactly the same day.

He lived in Great Britain, he studied natural history and studied theology, became a naturalist, traveled around the world on a British ship called the Beagle, made a number of very interesting observations during that trip and came back from that trip to think, to write, critique his ideas for many years, and then wrote a series of books which are the foundation of what we consider to be modern evolutionary theory.

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I think both men rendered much harm to our country — Darwin when it comes to so-called “science” and Lincoln when it comes to division of powers in our nation.

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Creator God who included evolution among his many other create marvels.

I beg to differ: God included “natural selection potential” in His many other marvels. Everything science calls natural selection is turning out to be pre-existing genetic code being expressed differently under different conditions. And there is zilch when it comes to any recorded observation of new and improved genetic code being created on the fly — which would have to happen if a lower form of life evolved into a higher form of life.

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As delighted as he was with his discovery. . .

Even the very first sentence reveals the writer’s bias. The correct word though, is ‘invention’. The theory of evolution was invented by men to suppress the truth. Because if evolution were true, then faith in Christ would be futile.

When men refuse to acknowledge, 1) their own finite nature and 2) that they believe first, it becomes impossible to convince them that physical evidence is just as readily explainable through the “eye glass” of scripture and that “being sure of what they hope for and certain of what they do not see” is an expression of that faith. It’s the same as talking to stones.

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Lincoln, though he rejected church religion, came to be a very devout believer in an universe ruled by God, as his Second Inaugural Address makes clear. He is arguably the greatest of American presidents.

Darwin, to give him due credit along with Wallace, did make the important contribution that species evolve by some form of random natural evolution. Theistic evolutionists, including Darwin’s American friend, Asa Gray, had no problem integrating Darwin’s view with a Creator God who included evolution among his many other create marvels.

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