Comments on: The moderation of the professorate http://online.worldmag.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:06:14 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: krm http://online.worldmag.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/comment-page-1/#comment-317139 krm Fri, 04 Jul 2008 02:28:02 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/#comment-317139 It will take 20 to 40 years to undo the damage of the Radical Boomers though. It will take 20 to 40 years to undo the damage of the Radical Boomers though.

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]]> By: Scroop Moth http://online.worldmag.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/comment-page-1/#comment-317059 Scroop Moth Thu, 03 Jul 2008 19:16:05 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/#comment-317059 I spent a solid week in the UGLI reading excerpts of the Summa . . . at least four hours a day, and to the detriment of some of my other work. That wasn't my week for a report (I did the millenarianism unit) but it was a big topic for a conscientious scholar like me. We spent weeks with Albertus Magnus, Averroes, and Nicholas of Cusa. Plus, Peter, I took a whole course on Aristotle. I'm afraid there's no remedy for me in your reading list. Speaking of moderation, Aquinas advocated execution of heretics and by extension, holy war. Nowadays we call that kind of thing "Jihad." Aquinas believed in economic justice, meaning fair wages and just prices. Being against income inequality, he thought the rich could have too much and the poor too little. Aquinas thought usury was like homicide. Nowadays, we call that socialism or worse. I spent a solid week in the UGLI reading excerpts of the Summa . . . at least four hours a day, and to the detriment of some of my other work. That wasn’t my week for a report (I did the millenarianism unit) but it was a big topic for a conscientious scholar like me. We spent weeks with Albertus Magnus, Averroes, and Nicholas of Cusa. Plus, Peter, I took a whole course on Aristotle.

I’m afraid there’s no remedy for me in your reading list.

Speaking of moderation, Aquinas advocated execution of heretics and by extension, holy war. Nowadays we call that kind of thing “Jihad.” Aquinas believed in economic justice, meaning fair wages and just prices. Being against income inequality, he thought the rich could have too much and the poor too little. Aquinas thought usury was like homicide. Nowadays, we call that socialism or worse.

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]]> By: Scroop Moth http://online.worldmag.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/comment-page-1/#comment-317049 Scroop Moth Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:58:14 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/#comment-317049 Just out of curiosity, PETER LEAVITT, how much Aquinas have you read? Since you're recommending a reading list to me, perhaps it's fair to ask how much of it you've read, starting with the name at the top of your list. Now, I'll go first, not because I'm a gentlemen, but to make myself <i>look</i> magnanimous. Of course, you'll be truthful without regard to my answer, which is located in the next post, in order to help keep you true. Close your eyes now and start typing your answer. Still reading, huh? Well, back up, and read #2 again. What it says is compatible with what you said, so what's your problem, except that I wrote it. Further, you make no sense when you claim that leftists believe in perfect truth. They very much believe in seeing through a glass darkly, and y'all whack them for that all the time. Just out of curiosity, PETER LEAVITT, how much Aquinas have you read? Since you’re recommending a reading list to me, perhaps it’s fair to ask how much of it you’ve read, starting with the name at the top of your list. Now, I’ll go first, not because I’m a gentlemen, but to make myself look magnanimous. Of course, you’ll be truthful without regard to my answer, which is located in the next post, in order to help keep you true. Close your eyes now and start typing your answer.

Still reading, huh? Well, back up, and read #2 again. What it says is compatible with what you said, so what’s your problem, except that I wrote it. Further, you make no sense when you claim that leftists believe in perfect truth. They very much believe in seeing through a glass darkly, and y’all whack them for that all the time.

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]]> By: llama http://online.worldmag.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/comment-page-1/#comment-317005 llama Thu, 03 Jul 2008 17:36:59 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/#comment-317005 Well, not to through some water on the fire but.... this is from the Times. We know that the fairness and balance of the overwhelming 80%majority of socialist professors have been under attack and monitoring by conservatives because of perceived and real left bias, bigotry and discrimination. We also know that the Times is nothing more than a mouthpiece, nearly offal now, for the socialist DNC and Democratic Party. Sorry, I take what ever they say with a grain of salt and watch what they do. In 2006 university professors voted 80% Democratic hardly different than the rest of the education field at all levels. This does not talk into account the ones that voted green, Nader etc either. When I see them actually voting 50% conservative, the doing, then I will start to think that one of the last few bastions of socialism has been desegregated. Until then, university professors, other educators, lawyers, judges and journalists will be monitored closely and called to task as necessary when they discriminate against conservatives, religious people and anyone who isn't a card carrying socialist and doesn't march in lockstep to their slave masters wishes. Well, not to through some water on the fire but…. this is from the Times. We know that the fairness and balance of the overwhelming 80%majority of socialist professors have been under attack and monitoring by conservatives because of perceived and real left bias, bigotry and discrimination.

We also know that the Times is nothing more than a mouthpiece, nearly offal now, for the socialist DNC and Democratic Party.

Sorry, I take what ever they say with a grain of salt and watch what they do. In 2006 university professors voted 80% Democratic hardly different than the rest of the education field at all levels. This does not talk into account the ones that voted green, Nader etc either. When I see them actually voting 50% conservative, the doing, then I will start to think that one of the last few bastions of socialism has been desegregated.

Until then, university professors, other educators, lawyers, judges and journalists will be monitored closely and called to task as necessary when they discriminate against conservatives, religious people and anyone who isn’t a card carrying socialist and doesn’t march in lockstep to their slave masters wishes.

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]]> By: Peter Leavitt http://online.worldmag.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/comment-page-1/#comment-316965 Peter Leavitt Thu, 03 Jul 2008 16:09:56 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/#comment-316965 ScroopMoth, though it may come as a surprise to you traditionally the best of professors going back to the founding of the university in the Middle Ages are indeed balanced, moderate and civilized, even while rigorously advancing their views. Read Aquinas passim for a good example. Not all professors follow the fevered model of the leftist yahoos who somehow think their utterances are the perfect truth. ScroopMoth, though it may come as a surprise to you traditionally the best of professors going back to the founding of the university in the Middle Ages are indeed balanced, moderate and civilized, even while rigorously advancing their views. Read Aquinas passim for a good example. Not all professors follow the fevered model of the leftist yahoos who somehow think their utterances are the perfect truth.

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]]> By: Scroop Moth http://online.worldmag.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/comment-page-1/#comment-316957 Scroop Moth Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:44:02 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/#comment-316957 <b>. . . more balanced, more moderate . . less willing . . . </b> Could you please tidy this up, Harrison? More balanced and more moderate are like more pregnant. A person is either balanced or unbalanced, moderate or immoderate. And surely, ideology is primarily a matter of thought, not will, especially for professors, who are in the business of talking rather than doing. And it is not a good thing for professors to be weak-willed in the expression of their thought. . . . more balanced, more moderate . . less willing . . .

Could you please tidy this up, Harrison? More balanced and more moderate are like more pregnant. A person is either balanced or unbalanced, moderate or immoderate. And surely, ideology is primarily a matter of thought, not will, especially for professors, who are in the business of talking rather than doing. And it is not a good thing for professors to be weak-willed in the expression of their thought.

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]]> By: Peter Leavitt http://online.worldmag.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/comment-page-1/#comment-316945 Peter Leavitt Thu, 03 Jul 2008 15:15:44 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/07/03/the-moderation-of-the-professorate/#comment-316945 The National Association of Scholars is a godsend to the secular university, though it will take a generation or more to undo the damage done by the hard-edged secularist influence. There is a first class book out on this subject, <i> The Decline of the Secular University</i> by C. John Sommerville. The National Association of Scholars is a godsend to the secular university, though it will take a generation or more to undo the damage done by the hard-edged secularist influence.

There is a first class book out on this subject, The Decline of the Secular University by C. John Sommerville.

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