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		<title>By: Anlir</title>
		<link>http://online.worldmag.com/2008/07/09/beyond-mere-men/comment-page-1/#comment-318871</link>
		<dc:creator>Anlir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is there anything about you that, if people only knew, they would not judge you so harshly?&lt;/i&gt;

I&#039;m unaware of anyone judging me harshly in real life (maybe they do it behind my back?).

Now on Worldmag, that&#039;s a whole nother matter...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is there anything about you that, if people only knew, they would not judge you so harshly?</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m unaware of anyone judging me harshly in real life (maybe they do it behind my back?).</p>
<p>Now on Worldmag, that&#8217;s a whole nother matter&#8230;
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		<title>By: modernshaman</title>
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		<dc:creator>modernshaman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 13:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#8220;Push a Christian more than an inch and he will react pretty much like a pagan.&#8221;

From a different angle, as a spiritually active Pagan, I think this line misses the mark.

My core values are the same as most Christian values: honesty, love, integrity and compassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Push a Christian more than an inch and he will react pretty much like a pagan.&#8221;</p>
<p>From a different angle, as a spiritually active Pagan, I think this line misses the mark.</p>
<p>My core values are the same as most Christian values: honesty, love, integrity and compassion.
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		<title>By: Sawgunner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sawgunner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6 My wife is similarly afflicted. I do wish I had stock in the company that manufactures sumitriptan (Imitrex) or maxalt.


I know a man well respected in ministry. His son (now an adult)has for years battled bipolar disorder. His compliance with a med regimen to manage the illness is at best spotty. On his upswing/manic phases the bipolar man has had his way with a few gals. The illness generally causes those relationships to end but not before he&#039;s fathered a kid or two by an unsuspecting gal.
So the prominent pastor labors quite trustingly for the Lord yet has no idea where his son is. And the grandson? He sits in the Lamar County jail awaiting a transfer to the state big house in Huntsville Texas.
The mass of men do live lives of quiet desperation, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6 My wife is similarly afflicted. I do wish I had stock in the company that manufactures sumitriptan (Imitrex) or maxalt.</p>
<p>I know a man well respected in ministry. His son (now an adult)has for years battled bipolar disorder. His compliance with a med regimen to manage the illness is at best spotty. On his upswing/manic phases the bipolar man has had his way with a few gals. The illness generally causes those relationships to end but not before he&#8217;s fathered a kid or two by an unsuspecting gal.<br />
So the prominent pastor labors quite trustingly for the Lord yet has no idea where his son is. And the grandson? He sits in the Lamar County jail awaiting a transfer to the state big house in Huntsville Texas.<br />
The mass of men do live lives of quiet desperation, no?
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		<title>By: Karen O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 00:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Push a Christian more than an inch and he will react pretty much like a pagan.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I agree with Llama about disliking &amp; disagreeing with this line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Push a Christian more than an inch and he will react pretty much like a pagan.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I agree with Llama about disliking &amp; disagreeing with this line.
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		<title>By: LiSaV</title>
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		<dc:creator>LiSaV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 21:07:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to the question: Is there anything about you that, if people only knew, they would not judge you so harshly?

Migraines!  I don&#039;t like to complain, so people don&#039;t often know I&#039;m suffering.  I wish more people would understand the disease.  It&#039;s not always as easy as taking the prescription meds, because although they work, they bring on rebound headaches.  It&#039;s not as easy as figuring out what causes them, because that can also be a challenge to narrow down.  Besides, neurologists aren&#039;t cheap.

I&#039;m not always able to be there for friends as much as I would like to or stay on top of my work as well when I have a bad migraine week.   I wish people would show more mercy and understand that I&#039;ve made a lot of progress despite the handicap!

I would like to hear what others would answer to Andree&#039;s question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the question: Is there anything about you that, if people only knew, they would not judge you so harshly?</p>
<p>Migraines!  I don&#8217;t like to complain, so people don&#8217;t often know I&#8217;m suffering.  I wish more people would understand the disease.  It&#8217;s not always as easy as taking the prescription meds, because although they work, they bring on rebound headaches.  It&#8217;s not as easy as figuring out what causes them, because that can also be a challenge to narrow down.  Besides, neurologists aren&#8217;t cheap.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not always able to be there for friends as much as I would like to or stay on top of my work as well when I have a bad migraine week.   I wish people would show more mercy and understand that I&#8217;ve made a lot of progress despite the handicap!</p>
<p>I would like to hear what others would answer to Andree&#8217;s question.
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		<title>By: llama</title>
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		<dc:creator>llama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well yes Andree,

Unless you are a clone of God physically, never sinned, never made a mistake and had no faults, I would say they never lived, really lived, on planet Earth and if they did live here they are not perfect and are kidding themselves if they think they escaped.

But, I am not going to tell you what mine are because I &#039;have learned not to expect much from one another in the way of understanding and patience&#039; and that Christians are &#039;not nice when you sin or you look like a loser&#039; and I realize that if you &#039;push a Christian more than an inch, he will react pretty much like a pagan.&#039;

You cannot possibly believe this illogical, not to mention, untrue nonsense.  This one of the most sad, miserable and pessimistic commentary on Christians I have ever heard - you are bumming me out.

If I really felt this way I would just shoot myself in eh head with canon or possibly shoot directly through my eyeballs with the biggest needle I could find, massive amounts of Prozac mixed with speed, heroin and coke to dull the pain.

I am once again reminded of my Granny who would chide me as a child, when I was upset about something I thought was caused by or inherent in someone else (like any Christian perhaps), by saying &quot;Oh woe is me, what did I do to deserve this pain and misery&quot; as she pointed to herself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yes Andree,</p>
<p>Unless you are a clone of God physically, never sinned, never made a mistake and had no faults, I would say they never lived, really lived, on planet Earth and if they did live here they are not perfect and are kidding themselves if they think they escaped.</p>
<p>But, I am not going to tell you what mine are because I &#8216;have learned not to expect much from one another in the way of understanding and patience&#8217; and that Christians are &#8216;not nice when you sin or you look like a loser&#8217; and I realize that if you &#8216;push a Christian more than an inch, he will react pretty much like a pagan.&#8217;</p>
<p>You cannot possibly believe this illogical, not to mention, untrue nonsense.  This one of the most sad, miserable and pessimistic commentary on Christians I have ever heard &#8211; you are bumming me out.</p>
<p>If I really felt this way I would just shoot myself in eh head with canon or possibly shoot directly through my eyeballs with the biggest needle I could find, massive amounts of Prozac mixed with speed, heroin and coke to dull the pain.</p>
<p>I am once again reminded of my Granny who would chide me as a child, when I was upset about something I thought was caused by or inherent in someone else (like any Christian perhaps), by saying &#8220;Oh woe is me, what did I do to deserve this pain and misery&#8221; as she pointed to herself.
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		<title>By: Mark Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Acts 4:13 -- it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;note&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Acts 4:13 &#8212; it&#8217;s <i>note</i>.
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		<title>By: Karen O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe B. - I think Andree is indeed writing about (with a bit of expansion) the same thing.  

One of the things that can divide us is when we don&#039;t give each other the benefit of the doubt about quirks or struggles or such.  Loving each other &amp; striving to be in unity would include trying to understand each other, &amp; also giving the benefit of the doubt where we don&#039;t understand.

At least, that&#039;s how I read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe B. &#8211; I think Andree is indeed writing about (with a bit of expansion) the same thing.  </p>
<p>One of the things that can divide us is when we don&#8217;t give each other the benefit of the doubt about quirks or struggles or such.  Loving each other &amp; striving to be in unity would include trying to understand each other, &amp; also giving the benefit of the doubt where we don&#8217;t understand.</p>
<p>At least, that&#8217;s how I read it.
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		<title>By: Mark Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 14:18:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, Andr&#233;e!

I appreciate how you&#039;ve taken a piece of Scripture and told us how it spoke to you. (Even if it might be outside its native context and liberated from its historical setting.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Andr&eacute;e!</p>
<p>I appreciate how you&#8217;ve taken a piece of Scripture and told us how it spoke to you. (Even if it might be outside its native context and liberated from its historical setting.)
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		<title>By: Joe B.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The entire context of the passage deals with divisiveness within the church at Corinth. This is why Paul was chiding the church. In short, the lifestyle of the church in Corinth was not a light to the Gentiles as the Bible commanded but was just like the surrounding community. There was selfish divisiveness within the fellowship of believers and not a unity of love for one another.

So Andre, I am not seeing where you are going with this.

If we are going to expound the text, we need to take the text of the scripture in context and also understand the historical setting under which the letter was written.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The entire context of the passage deals with divisiveness within the church at Corinth. This is why Paul was chiding the church. In short, the lifestyle of the church in Corinth was not a light to the Gentiles as the Bible commanded but was just like the surrounding community. There was selfish divisiveness within the fellowship of believers and not a unity of love for one another.</p>
<p>So Andre, I am not seeing where you are going with this.</p>
<p>If we are going to expound the text, we need to take the text of the scripture in context and also understand the historical setting under which the letter was written.
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