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The Purpose Driven Presidency
Barack Obama and John McCain have agreed to appear together on August 16 and answer questions posed by pastor Rick Warren at the Saddleback Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion. After the two candidates appear briefly together, they’ll separately field a hour’s worth of questions from Warren, the author of The Purpose Driven Life. Obama, who last spoke at Saddleback in 2006, won the coin toss and will go first.
Topic: Campaign 2008, WorldMagBlog
Keywords: barack-obama, John-McCain, Rick-Warren, Saddleback Civil Forum on Leadership and Compassion
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how disappointing that both of these candidates are sufferers of the same malady.
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Obama is the poster child for the gospel according to Warren. They are both ready to usher in the Kingdom of Heaven on earth with or without God’s help. McCain doesn’t stand a chance.
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The way Warren has been pandering to the left and the media lately, he may just softball Obama and sandbag McCain.
I will be surprised if he actually asks Obama meaningful questions regarding his fanatical support of abortion, or his life-long support of hatred and intolerance, or his (Obama’s) insistence on being called a Christian, even though he simultaneously maintains that Christ is a liar.
If Warren is just playing the pander game, it will be of little interest.
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Given that Warren has promised to speak on the “big four”–AIDS, poverty, climate change, and human rights–it appears that the more egregious issues, such as infanticide, will be glossed over for international feelgoodism.
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I’ll personally give everyone reading this post $8000 if any interesting insight comes from this thing.
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The purpose of the forum is not to reach the conservative Christian fanatics who so predominate on Worldmag. It’s to reach mainstream Christians who haven’t prostituted themselves to the Republican or Democratic Party.
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Wide is the gate and broad is the way the mainstream travel.
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I’ll personally give everyone reading this post $8000 if any interesting insight comes from this thing.
Oh, there will be “interesting insights” alright, but I’m not sure if any of them will be worthwhile.
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Yeah, we know Xion, anyone who isn’t a right-wing, conservative Christian Republican is going to hell. But when you throw your trump card so early in the game, what have you got left?
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The Purchase-Driven life marches onward . . .
Yeah, we know Xion, anyone who isn’t a right-wing, conservative Christian Republican is going to hell.
YOU might “know” that, Anlir, but I’ve never seen anyone on this blog make such a claim. Personally, I have quite a few friends who are either Democrat or are not conservative, who are nonetheless headed for an eternity with Christ.
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“Wide is the gate and broad is the way” is a clear Biblical reference (Matthew 7:13-14) to the fact that a lot of people are going to hell.
Xion is certainly welcome to clarify their remarks.
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I expect that Xion was cleverly saying that the majority is not always right–perhaps even that they are often wrong.
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Xion, I’m not sure how this will play out, but Saddleback Church is located in Orange County, which is a Republican area in California. I’m sure there will be hundreds of invited guests, but the Church holds thousands.
I’m going to try and attend, it should be interesting.
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Just look for someone dressed boldly and wearing a cap. That’ll be Victoria…
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Of all the western nations, only in America do the mullahs manage to interview both candidates for the presidency. Imagine the Archbishop of Canterbury holding a debate between Labour, Liberal and Conservative leaders or the Cardinal in Paris holding a debate. Instead of the sniveling and whining about correct doctrine perhaps Christians here should be glad their religion still wields influence.
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Kyle A got it. Mainstream isn’t necessarily the right stream.
I disagree with Warren’s doctrine for a Market Driven Church, but I have no idea who is or who isn’t on the road to heaven. That is in God’s hands.
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HRW, what would you know? you don’t live here. I thought you loved socialism, aren’t you happy yet? do you want everyone to sit in the same boat you can’t paddle everyday?
Xion, I don’t agree with Warren’s doctrine for one minute. This meeting, or whatever the press and Warren want to call it isn’t a ‘minor’ little discussion between Presidential opponents, its more than that. Those who are real Believers need to pray.
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Maybe Obama is confident that Rick Warren will help to make sure this meeting will be a “poverty conference” and Obama will be portrayed as the poverty messiah. And if McCain challenges him on political grounds, he will seem heartless and less faithful to the Sermon on the Mount.
Also, maybe Obama wants Warren because Obama is confident that Warren will never ask Obama how he could have once asserted that the Sermon on the Mount supports same-sex civil unions, or why Obama is incorrectly citing scripture to support his policies.
You can’t get much safer than populist Rick Warren and that goes for moth Obama and McCain.
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I meant to write: “You can’t get much safer than populist Rick Warren and that goes for both Obama and mcCain.”
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One can see the bitterness and anger of the Worldmag denizens toward folks like Warren. But they represent the fanatical wing of conservative Christianity. Most evangelical Christians are probably ashamed of the faction and want nothing to do with it. One can also see their resentment at being co-opted by a new power base, represented by folks like Warren.
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Victoria
Huh?
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HRW,
Vicky Dear is operating under the idiotic assumption that this site is only for folks who reside within the United States. She doesn’t understand the meaning of Worldmag.
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Vicky Dear is operating under the idiotic assumption that this site is only for folks who reside within the United States.
So you’re into reading minds now, Anlir? Where did Victoria ever say anything remotely like what you accused her of thinking?
Methinks Victoria is not the idiot now.
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Outkast, it’s constant hysterical approach, what can we expect?
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This is sad.
A pastor gets the opportunity to interview both candidates, and the best he can think to discuss is AIDS, poverty, climate change, and human rights?!
CLIMATE CHANGE???????????? ARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!
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What can we expect from the pastor who wrote about a Purchase-Driven Life?
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Hear hear, Mom of 5!
Victoria, I respectfully suggest that maybe you’re coming off a little harsh on HRW.
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