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		<title>By: Random Name</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Name</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If there isn&#039;t a &quot;Revelations&quot; yet, it&#039;s time to dig some up. Where&#039;s Joseph Smith when we need him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If there isn&#8217;t a &#8220;Revelations&#8221; yet, it&#8217;s time to dig some up. Where&#8217;s Joseph Smith when we need him.
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		<title>By: SteveG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 21:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TL at #39: &lt;i&gt;There have been sea creature fossils found on mountain tops. How would they have gotten there?&lt;/i&gt;

They got there because the mountains were not always mountains. Before tectonic plates shifted and raised the mountains, the land was underwater. 

Note: There are no fossils of CURRENT sea creatures found on mountaintops; only long-extinct ones. This makes no sense if you posit a global flood that put them there a few thousand years ago.  There should be plnety of them. It makes total sense if you see that the last time the land was submerged was millions of years ago.

Now, the problem with citing this as evidence of a Flood is that NO OTHER evidence supports that interpretation. Wheras there is plenty of other evidence from many fields of science to support the scientific picture. 

As I said when another poster raised this same argument on another thread, it&#039;s like a doctor insisiting a patient has lung cancer because the patient has a cough, even though the patient also has a runny nose and fever, and no signs of lung spots on x-rays. You hone in on the one piece of evidence that can be argued to support your view and doggedly ignore all the ones that contradict it. 

(Why are the Creationists suddenly all throwing this one around? Did a memo go out with the latest talking points or something?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TL at #39: <i>There have been sea creature fossils found on mountain tops. How would they have gotten there?</i></p>
<p>They got there because the mountains were not always mountains. Before tectonic plates shifted and raised the mountains, the land was underwater. </p>
<p>Note: There are no fossils of CURRENT sea creatures found on mountaintops; only long-extinct ones. This makes no sense if you posit a global flood that put them there a few thousand years ago.  There should be plnety of them. It makes total sense if you see that the last time the land was submerged was millions of years ago.</p>
<p>Now, the problem with citing this as evidence of a Flood is that NO OTHER evidence supports that interpretation. Wheras there is plenty of other evidence from many fields of science to support the scientific picture. </p>
<p>As I said when another poster raised this same argument on another thread, it&#8217;s like a doctor insisiting a patient has lung cancer because the patient has a cough, even though the patient also has a runny nose and fever, and no signs of lung spots on x-rays. You hone in on the one piece of evidence that can be argued to support your view and doggedly ignore all the ones that contradict it. </p>
<p>(Why are the Creationists suddenly all throwing this one around? Did a memo go out with the latest talking points or something?)
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		<title>By: Theophilus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Theophilus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 20:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BobXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:
the more I see your posts here, the more I am content with knowing my Lord Jesus will undoubtedly defeat your anti-christian spew!

Have you nothing decent to say about us life-loving christians?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BobXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX:<br />
the more I see your posts here, the more I am content with knowing my Lord Jesus will undoubtedly defeat your anti-christian spew!</p>
<p>Have you nothing decent to say about us life-loving christians?
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		<title>By: TL</title>
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		<dc:creator>TL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 18:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There IS evidence of a worldwide flood, but evolutionists don&#039;t want to talk about it.  There have been sea creature fossils found on mountain tops.  How would they have gotten there?  There is evidence of the history recorded in the Bible, if you choose to see it.
Also, because the heavens and the earth declare the glory of God, we have no excuse for not knowing he exists and is the Most High.  Nature tells us.  If you choose to see it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There IS evidence of a worldwide flood, but evolutionists don&#8217;t want to talk about it.  There have been sea creature fossils found on mountain tops.  How would they have gotten there?  There is evidence of the history recorded in the Bible, if you choose to see it.<br />
Also, because the heavens and the earth declare the glory of God, we have no excuse for not knowing he exists and is the Most High.  Nature tells us.  If you choose to see it.
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		<title>By: opinionated teen</title>
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		<dc:creator>opinionated teen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 15:06:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erasmus
What&#039;s a Poe?

Mr. G.
You are right. I need to learn more about the subject, and that wasn&#039;t a very scientifically correct rant. So next year I&#039;ll take biology, and THEN I&#039;ll undermine all of evolutionary science! :D

What&#039;s an opinionation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erasmus<br />
What&#8217;s a Poe?</p>
<p>Mr. G.<br />
You are right. I need to learn more about the subject, and that wasn&#8217;t a very scientifically correct rant. So next year I&#8217;ll take biology, and THEN I&#8217;ll undermine all of evolutionary science! <img src='http://online.worldmag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>What&#8217;s an opinionation?
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		<title>By: Yeah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought for sure someone would make a clever reference to the Texas School Book Depository in this thread.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought for sure someone would make a clever reference to the Texas School Book Depository in this thread.
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		<title>By: Kyle A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 10:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Texas schools used to have a Bible class.  My wife&#039;s high school had one until some local busybodies threatened to sue and the school caved in.  So much for tolerance.  Their kids didn&#039;t have to take the class.  It was an elective.  Why not let kids take it, if they want to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Texas schools used to have a Bible class.  My wife&#8217;s high school had one until some local busybodies threatened to sue and the school caved in.  So much for tolerance.  Their kids didn&#8217;t have to take the class.  It was an elective.  Why not let kids take it, if they want to?
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		<title>By: outkast</title>
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		<dc:creator>outkast</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:44:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRW presuming to know the thoughts of great theologians such as Luther and Calvin bears the same weight as Jon Rowe presuming to know the thoughts of the Founding Fathers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRW presuming to know the thoughts of great theologians such as Luther and Calvin bears the same weight as Jon Rowe presuming to know the thoughts of the Founding Fathers.
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		<title>By: Joel Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 01:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>29, HRW, I have learned to take it with a grain of salt when bloggers try to make their own arguments by presuming to put words into the mouths of famous people of history.  Some bloggers are better than others at it.  But it&#039;s often just name-dropping and since Luther and Calvin and Jefferson left a record, I tend to just let them speak for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>29, HRW, I have learned to take it with a grain of salt when bloggers try to make their own arguments by presuming to put words into the mouths of famous people of history.  Some bloggers are better than others at it.  But it&#8217;s often just name-dropping and since Luther and Calvin and Jefferson left a record, I tend to just let them speak for themselves.
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		<title>By: SteveG</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Opinionated Teen: Here&#039;s the problem with your notion: It doesn&#039;t accord to reality. 

By your scenario, if the reptiles and amphibians all died early on in your flood, they&#039;d be preserved in a lower layer and that&#039;d be all ... but since reptiles and amphibians are still with us, the fossil record actually records them all through pre-history in various forms. 

So some species appear in lower strata, others in higher strata, but they&#039;re there all through. 

I know you think you are extraordinarily clever and have, in one short post, undermined all of evolutionary science ... but really, and I say this as gently as I can... you need an education, not just opinionation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Opinionated Teen: Here&#8217;s the problem with your notion: It doesn&#8217;t accord to reality. </p>
<p>By your scenario, if the reptiles and amphibians all died early on in your flood, they&#8217;d be preserved in a lower layer and that&#8217;d be all &#8230; but since reptiles and amphibians are still with us, the fossil record actually records them all through pre-history in various forms. </p>
<p>So some species appear in lower strata, others in higher strata, but they&#8217;re there all through. </p>
<p>I know you think you are extraordinarily clever and have, in one short post, undermined all of evolutionary science &#8230; but really, and I say this as gently as I can&#8230; you need an education, not just opinionation.
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