Thou shalt not call him arrogant and skinny
It’s no secret that the media is in love with Barack Obama and handles him with kid gloves, but what’s now funny to watch is, not how they fawn over him (that’s old news), but how they get so riled up when anyone attacks the man. Two cases in point. The Root says that people are calling Obama arrogant, which, according to them, is a euphemism for uppity.
“Uppity” used to be the preferred term for Negroes who didn’t know their place. There was a time when it was regularly applied to any number of black men and women who strived to be more than day laborers, nannies or sharecroppers.
The GOP, ever aware of the connotative power of words, has steered clear of the direct usage of that loaded term. When they speak of Barack Obama-a man in pursuit of the most lofty of prizes-they simply use the words that define the term. Snobbish. Arrogant. Presumptuous.
Or, those who call him arrogant could just mean arrogant, as in detached, elitist, different, removed, condescending, like when Obama suggested that folks cling to guns and religion because we’re idiots. And then there’s this piece that suggests those who call Obama skinny must really mean black.
In the Aug. 1 Wall Street Journal, Amy Chozick asked, “[C]ould Sen. Obama’s skinniness be a liability?” Most Americans, Chozick points out, aren’t skinny.
It’s not the most compelling news story about the campaign, but it’s something to consider. How would America feel about its first skinny candidate in a long time? Why do we prefer “healthier” (read: bigger) presidents and political leaders? A nice anthropological question to consider. But Timothy Noah of Slate.com takes it further.
The sad fact is that any discussion of Obama’s physical appearance is going to remind white people of the physical characteristic that’s most on their minds. Moreover, [one black journalist] points out, “The black male body has been commodified in this country from its earliest days. People were brought here for their bodies.” Better either to leave the whole topic alone, it seems to me, or to address the question of racial prejudice head-on, as Juan Williams did in an Aug. 4 Wall Street Journal column. In the future, the press would be wise to avoid discussing how ordinary Americans will respond to the size of Obama’s ears, the thickness of Obama’s eyebrows, and so on.
I’m not suggesting it’s healthy to make one’s voting decisions based on the size of his blue jeans and sportcoats, but mere consideration of the matter seems, to the media, to be sacrilege.




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There are no words we can use to describe Barry without offending the Democrat followers of that rock-star celebrity. How thin-skinned.
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If Obama is upset by criticism he should not be running for public office.
This just goes to show how hard it is to find examples of white racism.
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HSK let me get this straight?
It’s no secret that the media is in love with Barack Obama and handles him with kid gloves,
You aren’t part of the media? Are you in love with Barack Obama and handle him with kid gloves, or are you admitting that you are bush league? It’s unclear.
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I though it hilarious when a black lady from the south said on TV there was no way she was ever going to vote for a bean pole like Obama since she prefers her men to have a little meat on them.
I do have some advice for Obama but I am sure he will not take it since he knows everything better than anyone already as the anointed Emperor of the World and the Anti Christ all rolled into one skinny, if wirier, package. All is not lost, there is still time to give up his crack addiction and put on a few pound before the election
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Obama is skinny because he is a chain smoker. That’s something the DNC and the media won’t let you know. Both excoriate Big Tobacco and smoking but love Obama, so they don’t want to be too hypocritical.
I can’t remember the last time the U.S. ever had a chain smoking president, if at all. FDR?
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It’s getting harder and harder for The Simpsons to parody the real world.
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It really does not bother me so much that Obama may be uppity, snobbish, arrogant, or skinny. It does not bother me at all that he is black (full or half, who cares?). What bothers me much more is that he is a utopian socialist and a black liberation theologian (code for Marxist).
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I don’t get it. Obama is not skinny. His famous beach picture doesn’t show ribs.
Apparently, America is a fat nation. Cows of Bashan, indeed!
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The skinny issue is minor, though amusing.
The arrogance issue and aloofness is major and real.
A man of insignificant accomplishment, Obama speaks with frothy rhetoric about change and such inanities as We are the ones we have been waiting for.People are catching on to the reality that he is, as the Texans say, “all hat and no cattle.”
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Probably the major reason Obama is so skinny is that he works out all the time at Chicago’s trendiest health club.
And of course he lives in one of the whitest areas on Chicago’s South Side.
Obama is black when it suits him, like in getting accepted into Harvard.
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I wish that we were at a point in America when a person’s race would not be either a plus, a minus, or a cheap political ploy.
I wouldn’t care if Obama were five shades lighter and McCain were five shades darker. I would still prefer the latter to the former.
I have never used the word uppity in my life, as it would never occur to me to do so. However, I have said that Obama is arrogant, because he is. When a first-term Senator can go to Berlin and deliver the speech that Obama delivered, he is obviously, by definition, arrogant.
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I’m bush league.
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ok thanks for the answer. you are in league with bush? or second string. fooey on me for setting that up!!!
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Thou shalt not question his place of birth….
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No, Erasmus….fooey on you because you hate Jesus
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And there was the bubblebrained E.D. Hill on Faux News who wondered if Obama’s use of a common gesture with his wife might be a “terrorist fist jab.”
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Joel – 7
Joel makes a most poignant remark.
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My computer’s newscrawler says there’s a poll out there that half the people are tired of hearing about Obama.
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#5 Lest,
It ain’t tobacco that bean pole be smokin’. he used to sell crack to hoes in the South Chicago projects.
No wonder his lips are so …..eerrrr….. purple
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#16 Nick,
He did have to cancel seeing the wounded US troops from Iraq asn Afghanistan while he was in Germany because he had to go work out instead
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Justus
whatever do you mean, troll?
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#11 Kyle A,
When we try to comment on the quality of his character as MLK wanted – we are called racists. It is better to let ‘The Anointed One’, who has arrived to save us from ourselves, talk about the color of his skin and then blame us for being racists.
God forbid you mention his oxygen starved purple lips in the same sentence as his off limits presidential campaigning Marxist wife.
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The “skinny” blather is more of a reflection on those who engage in such discussion and more importantly the level to which the supposedly deep/thoughtful examination of the candidates for our President has gone. It could only be more shallow if it discussed underwear preference as if it were relevant. Pathetic.
As for thin-skinned, compare BHO supporters reasons for angst against concern displayed by the White House over the equally pathetic unceasing vitriolic comments leveled daily at them by Kool-Aid bloated fever-swamp critters.
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/05/book-president-bush-allegedly-ordered-forgery-to-justify-iraq-war/
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Well Doggies, I just love it when ERASMUS calls anyone a troll. He puts a smile on my face while proving there is a God.
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Is it true that right after Obama defended his tire inflation thoughts again yesterday that he claimed would end the oil crisis once and for all he also said that if you held your breath long enough it would end Global Warming by eliminating CO2 from the atmosphere?
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I think I would rather p[lant more trees.
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#18 NJLawyer,
Well, I’m not tired of hearing about the Anti Christ. Every time I hear something new about him – it is music to my ears and I find myself lying down in green pastures.
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Llama #26,
I heard somewhere that Richard Branson was offering a $25 million prize to the first person to develop an efficient means of removing carbon from the atmosphere. I’d try to get the $25 million by suggesting trees, but someone else holds the patent for them.
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JBH, you mean that plants live on CO2? I thought it was a toxic chemical.
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Is the correct grammar “media is” or “media are?” I heard a language guru on the radio yesterday morning say that the latter is correct.
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Mommy,
Like most collective nouns, whether they take plural or singular verbs depends on if they are acting in unison (a choir, for example) or as individuals (members of a football team).
The choir sings the national anthem. (Singular, because they are doing it as a single unit)
The media are reporting on the election. (Plural, since they are doing independently and often with different results)
It sounds clunky to pluralize some collectives, so you don’t hear it very often, but it can be accurate, depending on context.
*Takes off grammar teacher’s hat*
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#14 PaulR,
I don’t like Hawaii much either but he did more harm to Kansas. Hawaii is the only state where you have to be born there in order to own decent land like native Hawaiians do. Non Hawaiians have to lease for 99 years from Hawaiians. The Aloha State is, of course, one of the most far left, whack job states that has ever rolled a dubbie for sport and is controlled by socialists and other discriminators of the highest order.
Just another example of the left being the only ones that discriminate today.
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Llama, green pastures, huh? You brought a smile to my face. My first cat longed for my father to mow the lawn so he could go outside and roll around in the loose grass and get high. That’s what I imagined you doing.
(Mommy, I have forgotten the group is/group are rule. Sorry. Doesn’t CherylD always know the proper grammar?)
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#31 Cameron,
Now you do not really believe the media is. please note the is, ‘ are reporting on the election. (Plural, since they are doing independently and often with different results)’
Is is correct in this case. You have to know what is means at all times. The MSM are acting as a group almost entirely united in their common reporting of the election and anointed Obama ‘King’ as their Slave Master, in an odd kinky hair sort of way, long go
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The charge that Obama is elitist and McCain is not is one of the more condscending con jobs attempted by the Republican party; the party of the elite
And it’s an amazing country where an Arizona multimillionaire can attack a Chicago South Sider as an elitist and hope to make it stick. The Chicagoan was brought up by a single mom who had big ambitions for him, and he got scholarshipped into Harvard Law and was made president of the law review, all of it on his own hook, whereas the Arizonan is the son of an admiral and was ushered into Annapolis though an indifferent student, much like the Current Occupant, both of them men who are very lucky that their fathers were born before they were. The Chicagoan, who grew up without a father, wrote a book on his own, using a computer. The Arizonan hired people to write his for him. But because the Chicagoan can say what he thinks and make sense and the Arizonan cannot do that for more than 30 seconds at a time, the old guy is hoping to portray the skinny guy as arrogant.
From salon.com
http://tinyurl.com/5ebrlo
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The DJ who hosted the grammar guru yesterday morning said he didn’t care what she said, he was going to continue to say “media is.” Similarly, I will always say, “data is” and believe that my 40+ years in I.T. have earned me the right to do so.
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Excuse Me ‘The MSM is acting as a group not are actinmg as a group. I fouled my own concept
Sorry Cameron.
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google: Obama ineligible
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HRW,
If you can prove that the Anti Christ didn’t sell crack to poor Hoes on teh Chicago South Side and McCain did, I will give it a rest
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Mommy,
It’s “media are” because “medium” is the singular. (”The medium of radio is fast losing listeners.”) As to “data,” I believe Merriam-Webster decided a few years ago that the word was being used as a singular, and thus “data is” could be, grudgingly, correct. (Technically “datum” is the singular, but no one uses it anymore.)
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And using the same rationale, since “media” is popularly being used as a singular these days, I think “media is” would be, grudgingly, correct as well.
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Virtually every lawyer I know is a Democrat. They think they are part of the “elite.” Many of the “elite” in Washington are also Democrats. To charge the Republicans with being the party of the elite is to not understand the elite. HRW has been bamboozled, as have many non-elite Democrats, if he believes the Dems do not have their share of the elite, or if he believes that any of them care about the non-elite.
The reality is that there are members of the “elite” in both parties, and they don’t care on either side. HRW has just been drinking the liberal koolaide
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PaulR- I did. What’s the conclusion? It’s certainly all very interesting!
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Llama,
Ah, but I said “media”, not MSM! I left room for World, etc. to be included.
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By the way – all politicians are elite. You cannot run without money. And not one of them cares a small bit about those without it. They have completely lost touch. And yet, somehow, people still think the Democrats are the party of the “little guy!” Really? Raising taxes helps us how? Keeping more of us on government programs is helpful how? More government is good for the little guy – how? Let’s not drill for oil, because it might help the little guy! Let’s take profits from legit companies and redistribute them to the poor. Great idea! Then, the little guys won’t need to bother working to become successful, since we know the government will just take it away from us anyway. Please, explain to me, how the Democrats are busy helping us little people. I’d love to hear it.
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NJLawyer,
The Whack Job Socialists come in two varieties. The elitist, intellectual, well educated, ego inflated Slave Masters and their weak minded little piggies they keep in line by swilling them just enough slop to be completely, if miserably, dependent on them and saying ‘Bless you Masta’, anything you say Masta, Thank you Masta’.
Everyone else prefers better fare, freedom and liberty, free market capitalism where hard work is amply rewarded and the pursuit of happiness is cherished as is their country – America.
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Obamessiah wants us to check our tire pressure and properly tune our vehicles.
Wrinkly White Haired Dude (aka McSame) wants us to turn off our lights 5 minutes earlier.
At least Paris Hilton has a real plan.
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TL #43 – I’m not sure what to make of it. My wife heard about it on a Christian radio station the other day, so I was curious. The best that I can conclude is that there seems to be a lack of conclusive evidence, either way. Sorry to others that this seems to be going in a different direction. This has to do with some question of Obama’s eligibility to be Pres.
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I hear ya, Llama
I just don’t have your eloquence.
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Politico has a great response to the Wrinkly White Haired Dude (aka St. McSame) by Obamessiah. rofl
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#42
My mistake I should have been more specific — the business elite, the elite of the military-industrial complex. McCain inherited his position within this elite.
Obama is a member of the educated elite — lawyers and other professionals. He earned his way, through hard work and education, into this elite. This is the basis for my quote.
And I’m amused that after years of posting here that you would refer to me as a liberal and drinking liberal koolaid. My views are certainly more to the left than the waffling timidity of Democratic party.
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The NATIONAL ENQUIRER is releasing the photograph that the world has been waiting for – the first-ever picture of John Edwards and his love child!
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Vic0-
Shouldn’t tabloids and gossip go in the WV thread?
I was going to post the video of John and Cindy McCain at the topless biker chick contest in Sturgis there later today. Keep your eyes peeled (or covered).
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Thanks for sharing, Victoria.
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I dispute HSK’s premise that Obama is excessively loved by the media. John McCain gets favorable treatment, too. In fact, the conservatives in 2000 complained quite bitterly that he was a media darling, remember?
Eric Alterman and George Zornick at The Nation argue that “no candidate since John F. Kennedy, and perhaps none since Franklin Delano Roosevelt, has enjoyed such cozy relations with the press.” They give some examples of McCain fawning:
I think the media treatment is a mixture of admiration for the candidates and fitting them into scripted narratives. Obama is admired as young and inspiring, but is he ready to lead? McCain is admired as a man of principle and experience, but is too old?
Case in point. Isable Wilkinson broke over at The Huffington Post broke last week that John McCain wears $520 loafers.
Now let’s do a thought experiment. If a right-wing blog found out that Barack Obama wears $520 loafers, what would happen? Christopher Hayes has pretty good idea what would happen:
Just like John Edwards’ $400 haircut, the media would run that story into the ground. Because they’re biased against Obama? No, because it fits their narrative about him. But when the same comes out about John McCain? A humorously toned story on CNN led into by “will it give him a foot up on his rival?” Catch that leading question? Not “is he out of touch” or “is he an elitist” or “does this hurt his chances with blue collar workers.” No leading question calling his judgment or fitness for the presidency into question. A stupid pun. It doesn’t fit their McCain narrative, so it’s just a funny oddity, not evidence of the vast divide between McCain’s fortune and the average guy’s budget (which Obama is far closer to, by the way).
So I don’t buy this crap about the media loving Obama and giving him a pass.
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* = CITATION APOLOGIA: Mickey, these aren’t the copyrighted source’s original words, they’re just a collection of references, and their length is pertinent to the point I’m trying to make.
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Maybe the skinny bothers people because thin is associated with youth and youth with inexperienced which Obama is.
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To JJF #55
“We might be taken with McCain personally”?
I know you are quoting someone else but that is absolute nonsense. He is easily one of the most charmless people in public office. I heard most of his cohorts in the Senate dislike him.
He make Cheney seem effusive.
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Or maybe it bothers people because it’s a stupid consideration in a presidential campaign.
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Yes, most of his Senate colleagues dislike him, because he’s hot tempered and foul mouthed. But he made a point of wooing the media, according to conservative pundit Tucker Carlson:
And apparently it worked. Those quotes from the Nation aren’t made up.
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McCain is the media darling. Check out his tv appearances.
Jay Leno: 10 times
David Letterman: 8 times
The Daily Show: 12 times (or 13?)
Conan O’Brien: 3 episodes
Larry King Live: 9 times
Saturday Night Live: twice
Live with Regis and Kathie Lee (!): once
Entertainment Tonight (!!): twice
The View: twice
Tony Danza Show (!!!): once
“The Wedding Crashers”!
and an episode of “24″
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Obama is black when it suits him, like in getting accepted into Harvard.
Actually, Obama did not declare race on his law school application.
The question Nick H. Peters should ask himself is, how did John McCain get into the Naval Academy with his bad grades? Perhaps his admiral father and grandfather?
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If a 47-year-old white Republican basketball player who was editor of the Harvard Law Review and a member of the US Senate had spoken to 200,000 cheering Berliners and been joined by the president of France at a press conference, would Republicans be calling him (or her) arrogant?
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maybe “uppity” ????
McCain and the media — check out the book “Free Ride” which backs up the claim in #59
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“how did John McCain get into the Naval Academy with his bad grades? Perhaps his admiral father and grandfather?”
VERY likely. As he finished 894th out of 899 students.
He got his money by divorcing his loyal wife and marrying a beer heiress.
The easy way with little effort. Same as Bush.
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HRW, you are definitely far left, yes. But we’re talking about the American presidential election, which was why I put you on the Obama “side.” You certainly keep cheering him on and taking up his cause.
Not that you can vote, but you are drinking his socialist koolaide, not something free Americans want.
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I didn’t look at the Edwards pictures, but the fact that this topic has not been discussed by the media, the fact that it is not on the evening news, does show the two-faced, hypocritical MSM to be what it is — manipulative.
If Edwards were a Republican, this would be front-page and lead story news.
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NJL
The Edwards drama isn’t over yet. The pictures if they are authentic should bring it on….
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Victoria:
Your puerile delight is disgusting. You shouldn’t rejoice in anyone’s marriage falling apart, not even a political enemy.
NJLawyer:
Give it time, NJL. If the pictures are corroborated, I’m sure the media will play it big. They have a “reputation” to maintain, after all. You can’t expect them to follow the leads of every salacious grocery store tabloid story.
In the meantime, though, since you’re talking about media bias, what do you make of the tiny and calm play McCain’s $520 loafers got compared to Edward’s $400 hair cut? And won’t you agree that if it had been Obama in $520 loafers, the media, led by Fox News, would be trumpeting “ELITIST!” to high heaven?
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JJF,
Don’t put words in my mouth, its immature. I’m not rejoicing in anyones marriage falling apart, and I doubt their’s will.
If this is true, it will certainly ELEMINATE him being the VP candidate, that’s what people are referring to.
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I thank HSK and his fellow editors for continuing to cover Obama and ignore McCain. I walk in the bookstore last night and what do I see on display? Numerous books about Obama. Nary a one about McCain.
Most people already know about McCain: he’s that old guy who will dotter around the White House, drink his Ensure, and go to bed each evening right after the news at 6:30. The White House chefs will have it made! As long as they can make lime jello with pears in it, that is.
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Anlir, have you heard about Obama’s energy plan? He’s got one you know, it’s full of hot air, but he’s got one just the same.
It’s TIRES!
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I don’t have a problem with the media telling us about McCain’s expensive loafers. He’s not buying American. Shouldn’t they be Florsheim or something like that? But it matters to me about the same about as Obama eating arugula. Just as stupid.
The loafers, the haircut, even the Pope’s shoes (which are NOT Prada) got faster airtime than the Edwards thing. Now I personally don’t need to know more, he’s out of the race, this embarrasses a dying wife, but that wouldn’t matter to the MSM if Edwards were a Republican. There is a double standard at work here. And the liberals here would be gleefully jumping up and down the way they did with that Republican Senator who put his feet in the bathroom stall improperly and the LA Republican who spent time with prostitutes. No one here or in the MSM worried about their wives.
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. . . arrogant, as in detached, elitist, different, removed, condescending, like . . .
. . . like taking a budget surplus that was supposed to grow to 4.5% this year and instead falling $1 trillion short, owing to tax cuts, military adventure, and associated debt-service costs.
. . . like squandering our ability to use fiscal policy to respond to a serious slowdown.
. . . like knowingly using outrageous accounting methods to disguise the long-term damage, and add insult to injury.
. . . like, the only Republican economists left are arrogant.
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Florsheim are far too pedestrian for someone as privileged as McSame, NJL.
He didn’t dump his wife and marry an heiress to wear Florsheims.
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Hey, I checked my pressure last week and added 1.5 pounds to each tire — what a pain. I keep my BMW under 60 mph — boring. I don’t leave the A/C running when I go into a store — hot. I take my neighbor with me to Wal-Mart, to save her a gallon of gas — time consuming.
Cindy McCain says it’s impossible to get around Arizona without a private plane. We know just what she means! What a down-to-earth, practical couple are Cindy and John! A family full of admirals and a wonderful beer fortune c*nt spoil a good couple!
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Cindy McCain’s money sure gets under your skin. Nothing like an attack of the green jellies to make your day.
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“Cindy McCain says it’s impossible to get around Arizona without a private plane. We know just what she means! What a down-to-earth, practical couple are Cindy and John!”
Scroop. You clearly don’t live in Arizona. They don’t have roads you know. Just airstrips next to the supermarkets.
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I thought it was pretty down to earth that John encouraged Cindy to compete in the Topless Biker Chick Beauty Contest to become Miss Buffalo Chip.
Just like regular folks. Well, members of the Hells Angels kind of regular folks.
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That was a classic, heartland objectification ritual — putting your own wife’s but on the bar to demonstrate that you conform with your audience’s view of masculinity. Cute! If McCain didn’t know that the competition involved nudity and simulated sex acts, why didn’t he offer to put his daughter on exhibit too? Simple, real men c*ant treat their daughters like they treat their wives.
McCain is a vote whore.
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#71
Victoria I already posted the link to the following video on WV but you posted twice so I’ll post it twice. Here’s Obama’s energy policy — at 33 minutes I think he has substance to his style.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC1A8dLkRWM
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HRW-
Do you mean to imply the Loyal McBushies are not telling the truth? Shocking!
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Loafers last five years or more; haircuts last two to four weeks.
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Oy, what a bunch of gossip this thread turned out to have.
Llama- Most of your posts should be deleted. Could you use more Christ-like language (and proof)?
Victoria (yes, I am sounding like you sometimes are accused of)- National Inquirer? Can’t get any more gossipy that that! No one accepts anything in that rag as true, so why post a link to it?
’Lumps- Oh, forget it. You’re hopeless.
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Oh, and by the way, Florsheim now makes most, if not all, its shoes overseas (most likely in China, the shoemaker of the world).
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Peter L.
Dems call on Edwards to address affair rumors
By Mark Johnson, Charlotte Observer
RALEIGH – Former Sen. John Edwards might have to move quickly to save his spot on the national stage.
With two weeks before their national convention, several prominent Democrats are saying Edwards must publicly address anonymously sourced National Enquirer stories that claim he had an affair with a campaign worker and fathered her baby.
______________another quote________________
“He absolutely does have to [resolve it]. If it’s not true, he has to issue a stronger denial,” said Gary Pearce, the Democratic strategist who ran Edwards’ 1998 Senate race. “It’s a very damaging thing. … The big media has tried to be responsible and handle this with kid gloves, but it’s clearly getting ready to bust out. If it’s not true, he’s got to stand up and say, ‘This is not true. That is not my child and I’m going to take legal action against the people who are spreading these lies.’ It’s not enough to say, ‘That’s tabloid trash.’ ”
http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1167499.html
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Here’s what I got out of the story.
“anonymously sourced National Enquirer stories”
Edwards better fess up tomorrow! That no good slime ball running around like he’s some Newt Gingrich or John McCain.
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PeterL-
The Lord loves me for telling the truth. The others, he may forgive if they change their evil ways.
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Peter – 93
YOU WRITE:… “Victoria (yes, I am sounding like you sometimes are accused of)- National Inquirer? Can’t get any more gossipy that that! No one accepts anything in that rag as true, so why post a link to it?”
Why not?
Read post #85 – lets see how he answers.
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I thought it was pretty down to earth that John encouraged Cindy to compete in the Topless Biker Chick Beauty Contest to become Miss Buffalo Chip.
Why do you keep lying about this, Godlumps? Senator McCain suggested his wife would win a beauty pageant at this event, but never even remotely suggested that she bare her breasts to do so.
No matter how many times you bear false witness against John McCain, we’ll still laugh about what you’re saying because it’s totally baseless.
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I have a hard time believing McCain would seriously enter his wife for a topless contest while running for President as the Republican candidate.
I’ve read one blog post about this, and I quickly assumed one of two things. (1) McCain did not know the pageant involved a topless portion; (2) McCain knew about the topless contest, but was being jocular to chum around with roughnecks.
McCain is a fairly clueless speaker and has a truly foul sense of humor (I wonder whatever happened to returning honor and dignity to the White House?), so both my theories seem much more plausible to me than the idea that McCain seriously wants his wife in a topless contest.
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But Outkast…
…you seem to be suggesting that McCain knew about the topless contest, and entered his wife in it anyway, but never intended for her to go topless.
This calls my theories into question. You’re such a knee-jerk conservative that if either of mine had merit, you would have jumped right on them rather than take the logic-straining route you did.
If you’re right, isn’t McCain’s action kind of like saying, “I want my wife to be a Playboy centerfold,” then having your loyal followers protest, “but he never said she would take her clothes off!”
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Ok, I watched the video on Talking Points Memo. The signature McCain grin-and-chuckle leads me to believe that he was being jocular, one of the guys, pulling some “my lady’s hot” boasting to connect with the crowd he was speaking to.
The grin-and-chuckle makes me think he knew the “beauty contest” was no Miss County Fair. And the joke betrays a knowledge of the sort of crowd he’s addressing. He knew it was topless, or at least provocative.
I’m sure he had no real intention of seeing his wife compete, but he still treated her like a prop, like his arm-candy.
The guy has no class.
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Outkast-
As you noted, I wrote: “John encouraged Cindy to compete in the Topless Biker Chick Beauty Contest to become Miss Buffalo Chip.”
There is nothing false about this statement. Yours, however, makes unsupportable assertions regarding his knowledge of the event he was attending. Do explain your inside knowledge. He went on to laugh and suggest she would be the only one to ever be First Lady and Miss Buffalo Chip, as if it were scandalous.
Reminds me of a joke McCain tells about a woman who was brutally raped by a gorilla and left for dead in the street. McCain’s punchline is that the lady wakes up in the hospital and asks where the “marvelous” gorilla is.
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JJF-
No one who has ever seen the biker festival at Sturgis would EVER think anything wholesome was happening. The place makes a Grateful Dead concert look like Disney.
The other thing to note is McCain is just showing up at events where he knows there will be lots of people. He isn’t drawing these people because they like him or want to hear his message, they are drawing him because he is desperate to be seen with more than 20 people in his show. Not a good sign, and I hope it continues this way. The guy has sold his soul to be a McBushie, and he’s really bad news.
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PeterL, I was afraid someone would say Florsheim shoes were made in China. But are they not the shoe of “ordinary” Americans as opposed to $520 Italian imports?
(If Hillary had stayed in the race, would anyone care if she wore Prada shoes? I doubt it.)
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JJF: McCain knew about the topless contest, but was being jocular to chum around with roughnecks.
Bingo. Most of the contestants are wives. McCain wanted to share in the enjoyment of one kind of masculine behavior. It’s a ritual we all have witnessed, in which men present their wives as sexual objects. The women smile to show that they are good sports who know that boys will be boys. The key is, men hardly ever subject daughters to this guilty charade.
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PREFACE: I am not defending John Edwards if he is guilty. I am only defending his right not to be the subject of a gossip rag and its slander. It used to be “innocent until proven guilty”, but in our modern trial-by-media society, the Constitution gets put aside and an innocent person has to defend himself against lies.
Okay, Victoria. You found a newspaper quote. But, as ’Lumps pointed out in post #86, the key line I got from your post is “anonymously sourced National Enquirer stories”. It is a shame that if one wants to stop a politician from being elected, all one has to do is give an anonymous tip to a gossip paper and the MSM and other “reliable” sources carry it to the general public. All you are doing, Victoria, is helping the gossipers, which makes you one of them.
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Victoria’s sources are websites like NewsMax that run non-prescription boner pill ads. “Leonard definitely has a larger penis!”
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There’s no need to be crass, Scroopy. That’s potty mouth talk.
PeterL., this story was on FoxNews.com, too. That the story has not been on ABC, CBS, CNN or NBC is really the issue. Victoria has a point in #85. It has to be dealt with by Edwards. Obviously, the liberal/leftists here have no comments. The next time a Republican gets front page news, I’ll be sure to remind them that their standards are double.
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his story was on FoxNews.com, too.
this places FOX on the same level of decency and reliability as the national enquirer nothing more
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Outkast – 89
Hasn’t gotten it yet, no other answer for the constant rant about Cindy and her husband.
Hope all’s going well for you today
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NOTE: Well if it isn’t Condi Rice, I’ve wondered how she would fit into this election and NOW WE HAVE IT!
BREITBART
Rice: US would be safe under Obama
Aug 7 09:03 AM US/Eastern
US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice says the nation would be safe under a Barack Obama presidency and that she is ruling out a shot at the vice presidency under either Obama or Republican John McCain.
In an interview with Politico and Yahoo News released Thursday, Rice was asked if she would feel secure with a president Obama.
“Oh, the United States will be fine,” she responded. “I think that we are having an important debate about how we keep the country safe,” she said, pointing to the Middle East and Iraq.
“Those are important judgments for the American people to make.”
McCain has vied to portray the Illinois senator as a dangerous bet for US security given his relative inexperience.
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Well, you’re wrong there, HRW, and that shows just how ffaarr gone you are! If you took the time to read the stories posted on the websites of all those I mentioned, you would find that they all use AP and that the stories are identical. You guys make no sense.
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#00 NJL- Okay, so FoxNews has it. As far as I am concerned, my point still stands that we have de facto injustice system of trial by media. You as an attorney should be decrying this as much, if not more than I am. I do not care whether it is someone I cannot stand or someone I admire, let the justice system find a man guilty the right way!
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Oops! It is dark in here and I thought I was typing #99!
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