Comments on: Edwards admits to affair http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/ A forum for discussion of news that arises at the intersection of Christianity and culture. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 13:00:39 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Night Train http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-331418 Night Train Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:20:05 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-331418 I didn't post any vulgar comments. I merely pointed out that RN had done so. There's a big difference. I didn’t post any vulgar comments. I merely pointed out that RN had done so.

There’s a big difference.

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]]> By: Mickey McLean http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-330704 Mickey McLean Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:27:00 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-330704 RANDOM NAME and NIGHT TRAIN: Please note our <a href="http://online.worldmag.com/about/" rel="nofollow">comment policy</a>, which states, "Failure of WOW to delete or edit any material does not mean that we are accepting the content of any posting; our staff is small." The comments in question have now been deleted and this serves as a warning to you both to not post vulgar comments again. RANDOM NAME and NIGHT TRAIN: Please note our comment policy, which states, “Failure of WOW to delete or edit any material does not mean that we are accepting the content of any posting; our staff is small.” The comments in question have now been deleted and this serves as a warning to you both to not post vulgar comments again.

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]]> By: SteveG http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-330409 SteveG Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:03:40 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-330409 KRM: The whole premise of your argument is the assumption that there is a cover-up. And your evidence that there is a cover up is that there's no evidence of the accusations against him -- which you are no doubt certain must be true despite the lack of evidence -- ergo, proof of the cover-up. There's nothing Kerry could do that would convince you otherwise. If he released his records directly to you and they confirmed his version of events, you'd just insist he must have a friend in the Navy records department who removed the damning records before sending them to you. But in reality, Kerry <i>did</i> sign the SF-180, the records <i>were</i> were released, and they proved Kerry to be telling the truth. KRM: The whole premise of your argument is the assumption that there is a cover-up. And your evidence that there is a cover up is that there’s no evidence of the accusations against him — which you are no doubt certain must be true despite the lack of evidence — ergo, proof of the cover-up.

There’s nothing Kerry could do that would convince you otherwise. If he released his records directly to you and they confirmed his version of events, you’d just insist he must have a friend in the Navy records department who removed the damning records before sending them to you.

But in reality, Kerry did sign the SF-180, the records were were released, and they proved Kerry to be telling the truth.

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]]> By: Random Name http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-330408 Random Name Mon, 11 Aug 2008 22:01:50 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-330408 On the other hand, NT, I didn't see your comment about Kennedy, or the threat to ban you. I don't personally know Ted Kennedy, so I am a little reluctant to comment on him in detail. But my strong impression is that whatever you said about him is probably correct. I am glad he was never nominated for President, much less elected. On the other hand, NT, I didn’t see your comment about Kennedy, or the threat to ban you.

I don’t personally know Ted Kennedy, so I am a little reluctant to comment on him in detail. But my strong impression is that whatever you said about him is probably correct. I am glad he was never nominated for President, much less elected.

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]]> By: Random Name http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-330405 Random Name Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:57:29 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-330405 #93 Night Train, you are correct. I should not have used the vulgarities that quoted me using. And I should not have been allowed to get away with using them. You may ban me from World on the Web. #93

Night Train, you are correct. I should not have used the vulgarities that quoted me using. And I should not have been allowed to get away with using them. You may ban me from World on the Web.

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]]> By: krm http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-330377 krm Mon, 11 Aug 2008 21:19:55 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-330377 SteveG - As always the devil is in the details: Kerry released records only to the Boston Globe and LA Times (2 papers that he could trust to aid in his cover up) - and the public still hasn't had access to them, http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/724pabsc.asp DURING THE MOST RECENT PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, various antagonists repeatedly urged John Kerry to sign a Standard Form 180; by signing Form 180, Kerry would have released the entirety of his military records for public consumption. The senator stubbornly refused these pleas. (Actually he "stubbornly refused" in a uniquely Kerry-esque manner. While he kept promising to sign the form and get the information out there, he never quite managed to do so.) During Kerry's appearance on Meet the Press almost four months ago, Tim Russert once again broached the issue of Kerry signing a Form 180. As he did during the campaign, Kerry promised to sign the form and then spent the ensuing 100+ days taking no action on that front. But last week finally brought deliverance for those anxious to exhume the carcass of Kerry's political career. According to the Boston Globe and the Los Angeles Times, Kerry signed a Form 180 and his precious military records were issued to them and them alone. Since the released records revealed no new information (other than the fact that Kerry had been something of a dullard during his time at Yale), one would have thought the issue would be closed. In actuality, the interesting dimensions of the story were just beginning to reveal themselves. SteveG – As always the devil is in the details:
Kerry released records only to the Boston Globe and LA Times (2 papers that he could trust to aid in his cover up) – and the public still hasn’t had access to them,

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/005/724pabsc.asp

DURING THE MOST RECENT PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN, various antagonists repeatedly urged John Kerry to sign a Standard Form 180; by signing Form 180, Kerry would have released the entirety of his military records for public consumption. The senator stubbornly refused these pleas. (Actually he “stubbornly refused” in a uniquely Kerry-esque manner. While he kept promising to sign the form and get the information out there, he never quite managed to do so.)

During Kerry’s appearance on Meet the Press almost four months ago, Tim Russert once again broached the issue of Kerry signing a Form 180. As he did during the campaign, Kerry promised to sign the form and then spent the ensuing 100+ days taking no action on that front.

But last week finally brought deliverance for those anxious to exhume the carcass of Kerry’s political career. According to the Boston Globe and the Los Angeles Times, Kerry signed a Form 180 and his precious military records were issued to them and them alone. Since the released records revealed no new information (other than the fact that Kerry had been something of a dullard during his time at Yale), one would have thought the issue would be closed. In actuality, the interesting dimensions of the story were just beginning to reveal themselves.

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]]> By: momof5 http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-330152 momof5 Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:27:38 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-330152 # 90 HRW, When faced with a choice between immoral positions and past immoral behavior, how can you say choosing the candidate with the immoral positions isn't hypocritical, but choosing the one with past immoral behavior is? Ultimately, Obama's leadership will be toward what I consider immoral policies (abortion being on that list). McCain's shameful treatment of his wife 20 yrs ago is one of the reasons I voted for Huckabee in the primary. But weighing it all out, McCain will lead somewhat closer (couldn't say close) to my positions on lots of moral issues. I don't think his behavior back then makes him vulnerable to blackmail, either. It's not a secret, so the potential threat over him because of that is absent. I would hope that in the 20 yrs since, he's grown in character. He seems to have been fairly stable in his personal life for the last 2 decades. That counts for something. I believe that he is less risky than Obama, so I believe voting for him is the right thing to do. I know we disagree, but I truly don't think I'm a hypocrite. # 90 HRW,

When faced with a choice between immoral positions and past immoral behavior, how can you say choosing the candidate with the immoral positions isn’t hypocritical, but choosing the one with past immoral behavior is?

Ultimately, Obama’s leadership will be toward what I consider immoral policies (abortion being on that list).

McCain’s shameful treatment of his wife 20 yrs ago is one of the reasons I voted for Huckabee in the primary. But weighing it all out, McCain will lead somewhat closer (couldn’t say close) to my positions on lots of moral issues. I don’t think his behavior back then makes him vulnerable to blackmail, either. It’s not a secret, so the potential threat over him because of that is absent.

I would hope that in the 20 yrs since, he’s grown in character. He seems to have been fairly stable in his personal life for the last 2 decades. That counts for something. I believe that he is less risky than Obama, so I believe voting for him is the right thing to do.

I know we disagree, but I truly don’t think I’m a hypocrite.

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]]> By: Night Train http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-330006 Night Train Mon, 11 Aug 2008 02:46:57 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-330006 NJL, I no longer go to church, so I have a hard time keeping up with all the changes in Christian morality. Not long ago, most Christians would have considered any woman who had had an affair with just one married man to be a major league ho. Now you assure me that having back to back affairs with TWO married men in no way implies that Rielle Hunter is a major ho. You've got me wondering, NJL. I understand that Christianity is always watering itself down so as to not seem "judgmental", etc. So, nowadays, how many married men would RH, or any woman, have to bed down before she'd be considered a major league ho in the eyes of Christians? 7? 9? 16? 43? Oh, wait. I forgot. Reille Hunter is a "hero" in the eyes of Christians because she didn't get an abortion. NJL,
I no longer go to church, so I have a hard time keeping up with all the changes in Christian morality. Not long ago, most Christians would have considered any woman who had had an affair with just one married man to be a major league ho. Now you assure me that having back to back affairs with TWO married men in no way implies that Rielle Hunter is a major ho.

You’ve got me wondering, NJL. I understand that Christianity is always watering itself down so as to not seem “judgmental”, etc. So, nowadays, how many married men would RH, or any woman, have to bed down before she’d be considered a major league ho in the eyes of Christians? 7? 9? 16? 43?

Oh, wait. I forgot. Reille Hunter is a “hero” in the eyes of Christians because she didn’t get an abortion.

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]]> By: hrw http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-329996 hrw Mon, 11 Aug 2008 00:50:41 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-329996 Momof5 If we were to look at the actual candidates and based on their personal moral history, Obama appears to have the edge. As someone who betrayed his spouse, McCain according to your reasoning is more likely to betray citizens. If you still choose to vote for McCain, the moral uproar is merely a hypocritical enjoyment of your opponent's misery. Momof5

If we were to look at the actual candidates and based on their personal moral history, Obama appears to have the edge. As someone who betrayed his spouse, McCain according to your reasoning is more likely to betray citizens. If you still choose to vote for McCain, the moral uproar is merely a hypocritical enjoyment of your opponent’s misery.

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]]> By: Night Train http://online.worldmag.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/comment-page-2/#comment-329968 Night Train Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:48:06 +0000 http://www.worldontheweb.com/2008/08/08/edwards-admits-to-affair/#comment-329968 Besides...never mind that, NJL. Rielle Hunter says that Andrew Young, a married man, is the father of her child. If she is to be believed, that means she's had back to back affairs with two married men. In what kind of universe does that not qualify a woman as a major league ho? Oh yeah, remind me again how much you believe in the sanctity of marriage. What a laugh. Besides…never mind that, NJL. Rielle Hunter says that Andrew Young, a married man, is the father of her child. If she is to be believed, that means she’s had back to back affairs with two married men.

In what kind of universe does that not qualify a woman as a major league ho?

Oh yeah, remind me again how much you believe in the sanctity of marriage.

What a laugh.

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