This could be one of those 3 a.m. phone call situations
Although it’s being overshadowed by coverage of the Beijing Olympics and John Edwards’ confession, the situation in the former Soviet state of Georgia, an important ally to the United States, is a volatile one that could have major implications for our country and in the presidential race. How Barack Obama and John McCain react to this unfolding crisis over the days and weeks ahead could go a long way in revealing their foreign policy strengths and weaknesses.
As for initial reactions, McCain, who was campaigning today in Iowa, said the United States should convene an emergency session of the U.N. Security Council, and we should work with the European Union to put pressure on Russia and help establish an independent peacekeeping force in the breakaway province of South Ossetia. “What’s most critical now is to avoid further confrontation between Russian and Georgian military forces,” he said.
Obama, who was interviewed during a refueling stop in Sacramento on his way to a Hawaiian vacation, said it’s important for us to work with international partners to end the conflict. “I wholeheartedly condemn the violation of Georgia’s sovereignty. I think it is important at this point for all sides to show restraint and to stop this arms conflict. Georgia’s territorial integrity needs to be preserved and now is the time for direct talks,” he said.
Meanwhile, as reports of additional Russian attacks come in, the U.N. Security Council has held two tense sessions and plans a third one Saturday in an attempt to avoid all-out war. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice asked Russia to respect Georgia’s sovereignty and urged the country to stop aircraft and missile attacks and to withdraw its combat forces. Also, Georgia announced plans today to withdraw its 2,000 troops serving with coalition forces in Iraq and redeploy them at home.














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Well, since our Fearless Leader long ago looked into Vlad Putin’s KGB soul and determined it was pure, I’m sure this little incident of Soviet aggression will do nothing to upset their tete-a-tete in Beijing.
It does indeed take a good soul to jet off to watch the Olympics while your troops invade a former colony and kill a few hundred people.
I’m sure Bush understands this…After all, Iraq used to be our buddy and he’s at the Olympics, too.
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The word here on the street, and I do get out on the street, is that this is a war between the US and Russia. No one is actually sure what is in it for either side, but power and money are enough. Georgia moving to the west has been madding for Moscow. This is the country that gave Russia Stalin for example. Russia has huge ownership and talk of Georgia going NATO is really threatening.
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Telegraph.co.uk
Georgia: Russia enters into ‘war’ in South Ossetia
By Adrian Blomfield in Gori
09 Aug 2008
Over 1,300 people are reported dead after Russian forces responded to a Georgian attack on rebels in the breakaway province of South Ossetia by mounting a full scale invasion.
Columns of Russian tanks plunged the two neighbours into war as they filed into South Ossetia, marking the Kremlin’s first military assault on foreign soil since the Soviet Union’s Afghanistan intevention, which ended in 1989.
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Washington Post Editorial:
This is a grave challenge to the United States and Europe. Ideally, the U.N. Security Council would step in, authorizing a genuine peacekeeping force to replace the Russian one that has turned into a de facto occupation of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. But a Russian veto rules that out. Thus, the United States and its NATO allies must together impose a price on Russia if it does not promptly change course.
The principles at stake, including sovereignty and territorial integrity, apply well beyond the Caucasus. To abandon Georgia and its fragile democratic Rose Revolution would send a terrible signal to other former Soviet and Warsaw Pact republics that to Moscow’s dismay have achieved or are working toward democracy and fully independent foreign policies. The West has made that sort of mistake before and must not do so again.
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Arcadia, this is not Soviet aggression. The Soviets are long gone. This is Russian aggression. Even your WaPo quote got that.
Not a few hundred people are dead in a matter of days — over 1500 are dead.
Now, if Ossetia is a breakway province, why not ask the Ossetians what they want — independence, maybe? And perhaps they want to align with Russia. What do the Ossetians want? Why did they breakaway?
And yes, Russia is “reasserting” itself against the “West” — but as usual, you forget the EU in there as if they play no role. Let the EU play the bigger part. Russia is their next door neighbor.
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It’s interesting to note the candidates’ responses to the issue of Russia v. Georgia.
While Senator McCain advises Russia to exercise caution and rethink how aggressive they’re behaving, Senator Barry simply asks something along the (Rodney-King) lines of “Why can’t they just get along?”
I think this issue alone speaks volumes about the two men aspiring to essentially become the Leader of the Free World.
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GNARLY: Pinging or a pingback or a trackback: “[L]ets you notify the author of an article if you link to his article (article on a blog, of course). If the links you include in an article you write on a blog lead to a blog which is pingback-enabled, then the author of that blog gets a notification in the form of a pingback that you linked to his article.”
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Russia attacked Georgia? I hope Atlanta is in no danger.
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Bloomberg.com
Russian Ships Steam Toward Georgia as Conflict Grows (Update1)
By Paul Abelsky and Alex Nicholson
Aug. 10 (Bloomberg) — Russia sent warships from the Black Sea fleet toward Georgia as it stepped up its conflict with the former Soviet republic over the separatist South Ossetia region.
The ships included a vessel based in the naval port of Sevastopol and four others from Novorossiysk, Komsomolskaya Pravda reported, without saying where it got the information. Georgian Economic Development Minister Eka Sharashidze said a ship carrying grain to the Georgian port of Poti was turned away by a Russian warship, suggesting an economic blockade.
“Russia has shown itself capable of crossing every line in this conflict,” Sharashidze said in a telephone interview late yesterday from Tbilisi, the Georgian capital.
Russian jets crossed the border to attack military and civilian targets in as many as six locations simultaneously, Georgian Security Council Secretary Kakha Lomaia said. Russia’s actions amounted to “full-scale war,” he said. Russian planes today bombed a military airfield near Tbilisi, Georgian Security Council secretary Kakha Lomaia said in a telephone interview.
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Times Online
August 11, 2008
We helped in Iraq – now help us, beg Georgians
As Russia forces its neighbour to retreat from South Ossetia, the people of Gori tell our correspondent of betrayal by the West
Tony Halpin
As a Russian jet bombed fields around his village, Djimali Avago, a Georgian farmer, asked me: “Why won’t America and Nato help us? If they won’t help us now, why did we help them in Iraq?”
A similar sense of betrayal coursed through the conversations of many Georgians here yesterday as their troops retreated under shellfire and the Russian Army pressed forward to take full control of South Ossetia
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what mccain fails to disclose is that his foreign policy advisor is a registered lobbyist for the country of Georgia.
He is a decrepit old man perhaps he forgot. I’m sure that’s it.
It seems like worldbloggers would support the S Ossetians that wish to determine their own autonomy. I guess when the knee jerks, you have to follow it.
Or maybe it is GOG AND MAGOG
rolfmao.
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I doubt if one out of a thousand people in America had ever heard of Ossetia yesterday, but today everyone has an opinion about it, and about Georgia, which not 1 in 1000 Americans could find on an unmarked map.
If Neocondoleezza Rice is against Russia going to war with Georgia, then Russia is probably in the right. I see Israel is supplying arms to Georgia, which is the second strike against Georgia.
I love the neocon government’s gall – telling Russia to respect Georgia’s sovereignty while we’re in Iraq.
It if weren’t so terrible it would be hilarious.
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Night Train,
You’ve never heard of Ossetia or Georgia? Can’t find it on a map? Because you haven’t a clue means others are just as much in the dark as you are?
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LMBO
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Now if the Georgians invaded Chechyna, they would have trouble spelling it.
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Georgia ‘overrun’ by Russian troops as full-scale ground invasion begins
By Daily Mail Reporter
Gordon Brown urges Moscow to order a ceasefire
Putin lashes out at the U.S. for ‘helping Georgia’
Georgia ‘restarts shelling’ after ceasefire call ignore
Refugee crisis as 40,000 flee
Georgian officials tonight claimed the country had been ‘overrun’ by Russian troops after a full-scale ground invasion.
Amid reports that Moscow forces had taken the town of Gori – and were marching on the capital Tsblisi – Georgian soldiers appeared to be in full retreat.
Troops were apparently in complete chaos as a full-scale rout pushed them back through the countryside.
Meanwhile, the civilian crisis intensified with thousands of refugees fleeing the seemingly unstoppable advance of the Russian army.
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