Comments on: Divine ambush

By: tsharpton

tsharpton — Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:07:14 +0000

40. Victoria,

I apologize. I did not know that Andree was a woman. I should not assumed a male. Thank you for the correction.

By: Victoria

Victoria — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 04:15:51 +0000

Why chalzz, it seems that all the Scripture needed to be brought forth to prove that drinking wine is not forbidden, it’s not a sin, wine is not plain grape juice, that’s WHY!

You’re welcome

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By: chalzz

chalzz — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:39:08 +0000

“Those who can’t drink shouldn’t it’s just that simple, nor complicated. Those who entertain others who cannot drink wine, should refrain from drinking wine in their presence.”

Agreed!!!! If it’s as simple as you now state, why then did you have to make it so complicated throughout this thread? Thank you!

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By: Victoria

Victoria — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 03:12:01 +0000

“Whether alcohol or any other potential vice, we must respect the opinions of those we don’t agree with.”

I can respect anyones right to their opinion, but that does not mean I respect their opinion, JUST their right to express it. NOT respecting opinions which I believe are not Scriptural is MY right.

Those who can’t drink shouldn’t it’s just that simple, nor complicated. Those who entertain others who cannot drink wine, should refrain from drinking wine in their presence.

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By: chalzz

chalzz — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:49:49 +0000

What we really need to see is the entire biographies of the three individuals we were given a brief window of. For if any of the three felt that alcohol somehow played a negative role in the darkest parts of their lives, and that they had to repent and not touch even a drop again. Then what some believe is implied by the article would be accurate but justifiably so, because for the three individuals, alcohol was a mechanism to delve into darker temptations.

Does one sin when one purchases a lottery ticket? What if they do it because they want to be able to help as many as they can with financial needs?

What if one starts with one ticket a week but eventually maxes out all their credit cards and savings accounts for a gambling habit? At what point does it become sin to that person?

Whether alcohol or any other potential vice, we must respect the opinions of those we don’t agree with. To the one who has a drink, let that person thank God for it, for the one who chooses not to have a drink, let that person too thank God. Both are made righteous by Christ, not by what they drink or don’t drink.

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By: Didymus

Didymus — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:29:29 +0000

Hi Victoria,

Yes, Proverbs 3:5-6 is a great passage. Trusting God and His word is paramount as we follow Him as He leads us from day to day.

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By: Victoria

Victoria — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:21:26 +0000

Didymusm, one of my favorite passages of Scripture is found in Proverbs. Leaning on the LORD, and trusting in HIM and HIS Word is paramount to following HIM as HE leads us from day to day.

5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.

6 In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
Proverbs 3

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By: Didymus

Didymus — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:17:06 +0000

Hi Victoria,

May the Lord bless you, and keep you; may the Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious unto you; may the Lord lift up His countenance upon you, and give you peace.

May He do the same for Andree too.

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By: Victoria

Victoria — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 16:48:21 +0000

Chalzz – 52

YOU WRITE:… “Andree’s first testimony presents an illustration of a man who overcame his homosexual desires.”

It’s wonderful when someone wants very much to change as in the man who had “homosexual lust” mentioned early in Andree’s post – we must remember that the man needed Christ, he couldn’t have done it alone, he overcame these desires through trust in the LORD. It appears he was a very troubled child from as earlly as 10 years old.

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By: chalzz

chalzz — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 10:43:16 +0000

Andree’s first testimony presents an illustration of a man who overcame his homosexual desires. Normally a public presentation of this type of story produces the ire of those it offended. I am suprised there are not more comments on this happening.

A former pastor of mine had a great saying from his experiences as a pastor always upsetting someone in the congregation over things he didn’t say that he should have or did say that he shouldn’t have. It goes as follows:

When you throw a stick at a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit. I would say the posts here support that saying quite well.

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