In defense of copycat sermons
There are over 300,000 churches in America, and 52 Sundays in a calendar year. This means that roughly 15,600,000 sermons are annually composed and delivered to expectant flocks. That’s a lot of pressure on a pastor, and so perhaps it’s not surprising that resources like SermonCentral and Pastor’s Helper have emerged to make their jobs easier. The result in some cases is called “pulpit plagiarism,” which seems to infuriate congregations more for the fact that a pastor passes off the sermon as his own than the fact that he didn’t make up the words himself.
Public speaker by training, writer by practice, and analytical by curse, I’ve found many sermons lacking in one of those dimensions, and frequently in all three. When I do the math and see that over 15 million sermons are delivered each year, I can’t help but cringe. As a result I’m inclined to welcome efforts to recycle good sermons, as opposed to inventing lackluster, meandering, poorly reasoned ones. I remember reading that in the first centuries of the Church, in fact, at least one Archbishop implored the priests in his domain to read texts from greats such as John Chrysostom, rather than string together their own stultifying messages.
One might retort that it’s never the words of man that convict a heart, but the inspiration of God speaking through man. Yet none of us would tolerate, I suspect, the delivery of a sermon in pig Latin. At some level, we concur that the quality of the message has something to do with its effect, or at the very least, that the messenger ought to strive to deliver the best message — one most consistent with the Word and working of God — that he can. And in some cases (perhaps many) this might very well mean reading sermons prepared by stronger writers and thinkers.
Yet what would happen, I wonder, if pastors began to openly do this? I suspect a great many congregations would be up in arms, a consequence of our increasing tendency to view them as service providers and we the customers. Yet while we may be tempted to view pastors as existing primarily to lecture us from pulpits, many of them are far stronger at shepherding and ministering to a flock than lecturing at it. So why not give them license to deliver valuable messages prepared by someone else, thus freeing up their time to work where their gifts are strong? Maybe sermon borrowing is a practice that will catch on.
On the other hand, perhaps even bad sermons have a purpose. As Jayber Crow, the eponymous narrator of the novel by Wendell Berry observes:
“In general, I weathered even the worst sermons pretty well. They had the great virtue of causing my mind to wander. Some of the best things I have ever thought of I have thought of during bad sermons.”




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I want a sermon to teach me, to help me see things in a new way regarding myself and God and life, to encourage and provoke and engender awe – not of the sermon or its writer but of God.
I really don’t care who wrote the sermon. God doesn’t give all the abilities needed for church leadership to one person – that’s the message in the various Scripture passages on spiritual gifts, that God gives the church a variety of gifts through different people.
The pastor who is good at shepherding but poor at preaching can read someone else’s sermon – but even better would be to nurture laypeople in the church who do have those gifts to get up and teach and preach. Because I think it’s important for the sermon to have aspects that are directed to the congregation that’s hearing it, from someone who knows those people and the issues they’re likely dealing with.
Large quoted sections from someone else are fine, but put in context of the local congregation. Yesterday our preacher was our worship leader, who is one of our pastors but usually “preaches” through his music. And his message yesterday included some music, and also a lot of quotes both from the Bible and from Christian writers, past and present – because he said he couldn’t say it better than they did.
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One of our pastors surfs the web all the time for his information, but he always cites the source. That’s fine with me.
I think I would be charmed, rather than indignant, if one of our pastors got up and just read Jonathan’s Edward’s sermon about sinners in the hands of an angry God.
On the other hand, if he did it all the time, I’d wonder why I was paying his salary. Of course, if he used his time to minister in other ways because sermon-writing wasn’t his gift . . . and he cited his references . . . I might respect him more.
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There is a wealth of sermon material in the Bible. Expository preaching could very well be the answer to the problem. Pastor, preach your way through the Bible! You won’t have to recycle a sermon for years!
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Romans comes to mind when I think of expository preaching. Some of the most encouraging/thought provoking sermons I’ve ever heard was the several years of sermons our pastor preached in Romans. Yes, it took him years to get through the book, but the greatness of God was continually before me week after week.
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There are over 300,000 churches in America, and 52 Sundays in a calendar year. This means that roughly 15,600,000 sermons are annually composed and delivered to expectant flocks. That’s a lot of pressure on a pastor,
LMBO!
No it isn’t. The 15 million number has nothing to do with “a pastor”, and is irrelevant to any “pressure” on him. A pastor has to come up with 52 sermons a year. That’s one a week, not 300,000. If there were 10 times the number of churches and preachers, that would mean there would be 150 million sermons a year. By Tony’s logic, that would be even more “pressure” on a pastor. But, no, each pastor would still only need one sermon a week, or 52 a year.
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and just think, if you can, that if the presthood of believers were allowed to function, each of us would be sharing various things, some of which would come from our own individual lives, THAT content cannot be mass produced.
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With the billion or so sermons given since The New Testament, I think it is safe to say that all have been given many times and that all the new ideas have been used up a long, long time ago.
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I remember reading that in the first centuries of the Church, in fact, at least one Archbishop implored the priests in his domain to read texts from greats such as John Chrysostom, rather than string together their own stultifying messages.
To this very day, no Orthodox priest has to write a sermon for Easter. St. John Chrysostom’s Easter sermon is read yearly. It is quite short but what it lacks in length it makes up for in profoundness.
If you would like to read it, here is a link:
http://www.oca.org/FSsermons-details.asp?SID=4&ID=10
or you can Google it. It is online many times.
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Night Train:
A pastor feels pressure from the fact that due to today’s technology, (s)he is being compared to those other pastors.
A preacher should get the confirmation of his call through his relationship with God, but it doesn’t hurt to get an occasional specific compliment from a church member or two.
When I was in the pulpit ministry, it was not unusual to have church members mention what a great message they heard from Chuck Swindoll, Charles Stanley, Adrian Rogers, Tony Evans etc. on the radio. Most of us would have a difficult time delivering a message like those so gifted.
I am grateful to God that I got my sense of calling from my relationship with God, but I’ll admit that I sometimes felt the “competition” breathing down my neck.
Church members put a lot of pressure on their pastors.
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A pastor feels pressure from the fact that due to today’s technology, (s)he is being compared to those other pastors.
That isn’t even close to the point Tony was trying to make.
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Amen, REG, the priesthood of all believers is the solution to this issue, and we in the Plymouth Brethren movement realize that. Between expository preaching and no singular “pastor” (plurality of leadership), we don’t have to worry about copycat sermons.
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Church members put a lot of pressure on their pastors.
Rightly so.
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There is a great deal of pressure on pastors, not only for preparing excellent/almost sermons, but also for counseling, church business, prayer, Bible study/research, spending time with family, etc. One could easily spend an entire work week on the sermon alone…to say nothing of counseling and other important work.
Priesthood of believers is important, but so is having a preaching pastor, and then a pastoral staff to deal with everything else.
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Being a pastor is a calling from the LORD it is a gift, just as being an evangelist or a teacher is a gift.
Pastor’s call on the LORD to lead them, to put into their hearts what they might deliver unto their congregations on Sunday, and any other day of the week.
My father when standing before his congregation didn’t use notes, he had studied, and knew the Word of GOD. He was led to preach what GOD had laid upon his heart, not a written sermon that had been crafted by someone else.
You can always tell when its rehearsed, it’s DRY. The same goes for prayer, when someone prays from their heart, the words might not follow the normal, but when you listen, you can sense the Holy Spirit, and feel the prayer being offered before the LORD and His throne.
I don’t believe the LORD calls a pastor to read someone else’s sermon, either from one found on the internet or a sermon from a book.
If the entire body of Believers in any church is active, then there will be teachers, those who can counsel and comfort those in need, those with the gifts of visiting the ill, and many other gifts.
I don’t believe for one moment that GOD puts a pastor in such a ‘busy mode’ that he can’t devote time to study and look to the LORD for the words which need to be delieverd from the pulpit.
Every pastor should be looking to the leading of the Holy Spirit when delivering his message.
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Passing off a sermon by someone else as your own is unethical. I have heard it blatantly done and it should not be tolerated. I let that preacher know it too.
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Recycling someone else’s sermons up front while giving due credit may not be unethical, but it is cheap and mentally lazy.
I agree with Outkast who said “rightly so” when it comes to congregations holding high standards for their pastors, as long as they show him love as well. There is a place for tolerance and slack at times, but not for lowering standards on any longterm basis.
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If the only alternative for a recycled sermon is a “lackluster, meandering, poorly reasoned one,” then it is time to seek a new preacher.
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I think it was Phillips Brooks who said that preaching was divine communication through human personality.
It always works better when the human personality carrying the divine message is actually that of the carrier.
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Night Train #10: Maybe so, but it went to the heart of the point you were trying to make.
Outkast #12 and Joel Mark #16: There is a positive pressure and a negative pressure. Positive pressure comes from church members who diligently pray for their pastors, encourage their efforts and prepare themselves for the receiving of the Word of God.
Negative pressure come when they compare him to the “star” preachers that are so readily available on the radio or internet.
I have never purloined a message that belonged to someone else, but I’d be lying if I said I didn’t feel the temptation to “borrow.”
I’ve been told I am a pretty good communicator of Biblical truth. I have had well intentioned church members compare someone else’s preaching to mine and told I was better. I always felt bad for the person I was compared too even as I felt bad when I was compared to the “better” preachers.
I especially feel for those going into the ministry today. The paradigm of pastoral ministry has changed so much that all of the responsibilities beyond the preparation and preaching of the word of God gives pastors precious little time to get into the word.
And anyone who dismisses that fact by saying that today’s preachers need to get their priorities in order miss the point. And what is that point? That the demands from church members often derail a pastors best intentions.
There were a couple of times when I actually took someone elses sermon on DVD and introduced it to the congregation by saying that I couldn’t possible say it better than the preacher on the DVD. I was shown much respect by my congregation for making sure they heard a timely word delivered in a manner that gave justice to the topic.
No canned sermons please. No passing off someone elses work as my own. But sometimes there is no need to reinvent the wheel if someone can do it or say it better than me.
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IF GOD has called a man to be a pastor, HE will give him the words to say, the LORD doesn’t lead a man to teach and preach and then not give him the words which should be spoken to that particular group.
A called pastor or teacher must realize that GOD has given them just the right group to minister to, it might be small or large, but it’s GOD’s choice, GOD’s calling.
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As a former math teacher and current pastor, I truly appreciate NT’s use of math skills and logic in post # 5!!!
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I have been used to an exegetical approach to sermons.
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And sometimes he gives him the right words to say through somebody else. Which is why most pastors/preachers use illustrations and quotes from other research.
It is when the preacher claims someone elses words are his own that it gets him into trouble.
I thank God daily for those who came before and left us with their thoughts in writings and sermons. There is no substitute for prayer and careful preparation. Consulting commentaries, research books and other sermons can confirm that you are on the right track.
I agree with Joel Mark that “Recycling someone else’s sermons up front while giving due credit may not be unethical, but it is cheap and mentally lazy.”
The only caveat would be what I mentioned before. That it is not done with frequency and that the pastor truly believes that the message is timely and beneficial for his congregation and that he couldn’t say it better than the original author.
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Night Train #10: Maybe so, but it went to the heart of the point you were trying to make.
No it didn’t.
It didn’t even address it.
Please learn to read.
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Why do you haunt a Christian blog, NT? Your insulting posts (i.e. #24) are really annoying.
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#25 fits into my theme of the week:
atheists, agnostics, etc.: Why do you post comments?
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On the other hand, I am not sure whether to be gratified or annoyed if someone describes another poster as “really annoying.” That’s my job.
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#13 Kennethos raises some interesting options:
There is a great deal of pressure on pastors… but also for counseling, church business, prayer, Bible study/research, spending time with family, etc.
We all know that modern churches try to be “with it” so as to appeal to today’s public.
I haven’t watched television for several years, so I am not with it as far as what’s current. Wikipedia tells me that daytime tv now has:
The Chris Matthews Show
Dr. Phil
The Ellen DeGeneres Show
The Jerry Springer Show
Live with Regis and Kelly
Martha
Maury
Montel
Oprah
Rachael Ray
The Steve Wilkos Show
Total Request Live
The Tyra Banks Show
The View
Well, I am thinking of stuff such as Jerry Springer, Montel, and Oprah. I did watch those a few times in my younger days.
Suppose preachers do their pastoral counseling, live, in front of the whole congregation?
Believe me, this would escalate Sunday church attendance to unbelievable levels.
Court TV shows are big also. This could be adapted as well. Is this person Saved or going to Hell?
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“Suppose preachers do their pastoral counseling, live, in front of the whole congregation?”
Relationships on stage…yes, that is what God wanted all along, more entertainment for abusive people to use to their own ends, abusers on stage and abusers listening in the audience
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#28: RN, pass that along to George Barna. It’s sure to be the next wave of church growth movement strategy…
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Thanks, TJ. I just looked up George. Wild stuff.
I’m wondering if I can get him interested in my “Jesus Saves” flash drives.
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The Bible is a thousand or so pages (give or take depending on font size and the format, notes, etc.). There is only so much there, and if the pastor is preaching sound doctrine there will be great similarity of message. That said, the pastor should be putting his personal touvh on the sound doctrine being delivered.
I wouldn’t have trouble with, say, canned outlines (that the pastor fleshes out personally). But full canned sermons would be beyoond the bounds of propriety. I have heard a couple of “updates” pf classic sermons that were quite good (but those pastors were also upfront clear that it was a modern reworking of a specifc old sermon).
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NT,
My point was that the pastor has 52 sermons to invent, plus the pressure of millions of other sermons being invented around him, driving up the difficulty of “being original” and “keeping it fresh.”
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Tony – 33
We don’t need to worry about keeping it fresh, the Holy Spirit gives those who are pastors and teachers the message. The words are always fresh if they come from the Holy Spirit to a man or woman who is a teacher, and a man if he is a preacher.
GOD knows his congregation in any single church, city, or country around the globe – it might be different depending on the time and place, but it will be HIS message delievered (if the the preacher/teacher) is willing to the group who he has been charged with.
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Recycling sermons is something that goes on way too much. It’s one of the tremendous disadvantages of topical preaching vs. expository preaching. The majority of pastors stay at each church from an average of 3-5 years. When they’re done at one church, they just preach the exact same set of sermons at the next church as they did at the last.
As I’m sure T.J. can attest being a pastor himself, expository preaching forces the preacher to preach on things he never would normally if he were preaching topically. There’s nothing wrong with topical preaching, but I’ve heard just a handful of preachers do it with true skill. They are usually preachers who as a rule preach expositorily (sp?) and know their bibles well enough to tackle a specific topic biblically.
And what’s this s(he) regarding pastors. There’s no such thing as a woman preacher or pastor.
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I’m wondering if I can get him interested in my “Jesus Saves” flash drives.
I don’t know if GB delves into that sort of thing anymore. He’s pretty much bummed about the mega-church growth movement, a monster he helped create, incidentally.
But, rest assured, there’s still a market out there for that sort of thing. Try TBN. I’m sure Paul Crouch or Creflo Dollar would like it, especially if they can find a way to make a buck or two in the process.
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My pastor, who will celebrate 20 years of being our pastor next year, relies on prayer & the leading of the Holy Spirit for what to preach about each Sunday. He does expository teaching on Wed. nights.
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Tony #33: You confirmed what I had commented on to NT. That’s what I thought you were trying to say and I agree with your point. And actually most pastors have 104 sermons to prepare for and some have 156.
I used to preach Sunday AM, Sunday PM and Wednesday PM. Sometimes it was a challenge to find the time to do all the necessary preparation to deliver something fresh. It can be a lot of pressure as you suggested. Relying on the Holy Spirit to make and keep it fresh was an absolute necessity.
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To add to the congregation sharing vs. pastor preaching subject–
There are quite a few pastors who, when they leave on vacation or for a conference or just feel the need to have somebody else sharing, ask a well-known pastor and speaker to come. My university filled its pulpit with a tremendous amount of preachers–and very few lay people–and my church has done this as well.
It would do many churches good, I believe, if the mature believers in the church had a chance to speak, to share what God has been teaching them and has laid on their hearts.
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It would do many churches good, I believe, if the mature believers in the church had a chance to speak, to share what God has been teaching them and has laid on their hearts.
Sounds like a New Testament church principle!
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40-Old Testament, too!
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