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		<title>By: Rio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what, GL?
You might make me feel slightly proud of being a &quot;McBushie,&quot; as you so kindly refer to us as.  Even though I disagree with much of what Bush did and what he believes, he has still done good things like appointing conservative justices and cutting taxes.
And he has stood by his decision to go into Iraq.
So I can be one be one of the few left who stand for what they believe in, even if it&#039;s not popular.
So maybe I&#039;m like Ann Coulter, but I won&#039;t go there because I think it&#039;s possible that she makes inflammatory comments just so she will get yelled at.  In essence, she might like being the one that everyone knows and hates because she says what she believes without caring how she puts it.
I have some things in common with her, but although I like being the one to differ with the majority (one against many), I don&#039;t purposely try to make enemies or call people names.
But when the truth needs to be told, I will tell it, and if some people are &quot;offended,&quot;  &quot;&lt;i&gt;by all means, be offended!&lt;/i&gt;  The truth is often not comfortable to live with.  However, this does not mean that I am trying to offend people in the name of truth.  

I hope Lynn or the other blog managers (if there are any others) will make an &quot;edit bio&quot; option
someday.  I, for one, want to change mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what, GL?<br />
You might make me feel slightly proud of being a &#8220;McBushie,&#8221; as you so kindly refer to us as.  Even though I disagree with much of what Bush did and what he believes, he has still done good things like appointing conservative justices and cutting taxes.<br />
And he has stood by his decision to go into Iraq.<br />
So I can be one be one of the few left who stand for what they believe in, even if it&#8217;s not popular.<br />
So maybe I&#8217;m like Ann Coulter, but I won&#8217;t go there because I think it&#8217;s possible that she makes inflammatory comments just so she will get yelled at.  In essence, she might like being the one that everyone knows and hates because she says what she believes without caring how she puts it.<br />
I have some things in common with her, but although I like being the one to differ with the majority (one against many), I don&#8217;t purposely try to make enemies or call people names.<br />
But when the truth needs to be told, I will tell it, and if some people are &#8220;offended,&#8221;  &#8220;<i>by all means, be offended!</i>  The truth is often not comfortable to live with.  However, this does not mean that I am trying to offend people in the name of truth.  </p>
<p>I hope Lynn or the other blog managers (if there are any others) will make an &#8220;edit bio&#8221; option<br />
someday.  I, for one, want to change mine.
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		<title>By: GodLumps</title>
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		<dc:creator>GodLumps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t care who you vote for Joe. Just don&#039;t vote for more of the SAME with McCain! It&#039;s time for a different approach. 

Ideally, we would elect a libertarian who respects the Constitution. Vote for BOB in 2008! If not, vote for anyone but McCain.

We can&#039;t afford to go on with the same failed policies the McBushies have given us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t care who you vote for Joe. Just don&#8217;t vote for more of the SAME with McCain! It&#8217;s time for a different approach. </p>
<p>Ideally, we would elect a libertarian who respects the Constitution. Vote for BOB in 2008! If not, vote for anyone but McCain.</p>
<p>We can&#8217;t afford to go on with the same failed policies the McBushies have given us.
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		<title>By: Joe B.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe B.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 11:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Yes, by all means lets vote for Obama, who has received a ringing endorsement from Hamas. Makes me just warm and fuzzy all over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Yes, by all means lets vote for Obama, who has received a ringing endorsement from Hamas. Makes me just warm and fuzzy all over.
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		<title>By: GodLumps</title>
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		<dc:creator>GodLumps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 05:39:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HRW-

Best quote in the whole video, besides Pat Buchanan, is Rumsfeld speaking hopefully about what he knew they were doing. and hoping to get away with: 

&quot;There are a lot of people who lie and get away with it. That&#039;s just a fact.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HRW-</p>
<p>Best quote in the whole video, besides Pat Buchanan, is Rumsfeld speaking hopefully about what he knew they were doing. and hoping to get away with: </p>
<p>&#8220;There are a lot of people who lie and get away with it. That&#8217;s just a fact.&#8221;
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		<title>By: GodLumps</title>
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		<dc:creator>GodLumps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) -- Almost one-third of U.S. homeowners who bought in the last five years now owe more on their mortgages than their properties are worth, according to Zillow.com, an Internet provider of home valuations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aug. 12 (Bloomberg) &#8212; Almost one-third of U.S. homeowners who bought in the last five years now owe more on their mortgages than their properties are worth, according to Zillow.com, an Internet provider of home valuations.
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		<title>By: GodLumps</title>
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		<dc:creator>GodLumps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:18:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0f48c27e-68cf-11dd-a4e5-0000779fd18c.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Financial Times has a lengthy article on what are being dubbed Obamacans (Prominent Republicans backing Obama over McBush) here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<dc:creator>hrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:12:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdJUCU1UH2w

An other one for Godlumps -- the best is the end,  Pat Buchanan on McCain &quot;He will make Cheney look like Ghandi&quot;</description>
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<p>An other one for Godlumps &#8212; the best is the end,  Pat Buchanan on McCain &#8220;He will make Cheney look like Ghandi&#8221;
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<dc:creator>hrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 04:02:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Godlumps;

The Republican Mayor of Fairbanks, Alaska endorses Obama.

http://tinyurl.com/6fjxm8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Godlumps;</p>
<p>The Republican Mayor of Fairbanks, Alaska endorses Obama.</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/6fjxm8" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/6fjxm8</a>
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		<title>By: hrw</title>
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		<dc:creator>hrw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:51:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last night Jon Stewart quoted Bush &quot;International mediation is the better way to solve disputes&quot; 
Tonight he quoted the US ambassador to the UN &quot;We think we&#039;re past the era of solving disputes with military means (break) in Europe&quot; 

Sometimes he doesn&#039;t need writers, the irony just stares in our face.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night Jon Stewart quoted Bush &#8220;International mediation is the better way to solve disputes&#8221;<br />
Tonight he quoted the US ambassador to the UN &#8220;We think we&#8217;re past the era of solving disputes with military means (break) in Europe&#8221; </p>
<p>Sometimes he doesn&#8217;t need writers, the irony just stares in our face.
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		<title>By: Cheryl D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cheryl D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Aug 2008 03:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Marilee.

I was raised by older parents (42 and 50 when I was born) who were if anything more conservative than their peers. Mom never did learn to accept use of first names, even between people of the same age, but would complain about the fact that society had gotten so informal. She referred nostalgically to the days when you&#039;d known someone for years before one of you said, &quot;Please call me Cheryl,&quot; and the other said, &quot;And you can call me Marilee.&quot; I was born in 1967, so basically I grew up in the 70s and 80s. By the time I was a teenager, our churches had kids calling adults by their first names, and no way were we allowed to. (I felt daring that I considered it OK to use first names for people up to about 25. I had friends who were several years older, and simply didn&#039;t want to be calling potential friends by their last names and thus starting the relationship as a &quot;juvenile.&quot;)

My mom sometimes referred to her friends by first and last name (I remember her doing that with her best friend&#039;s name) and sometimes just Mrs. ---. We were only allowed to use last names. 

In one church where my brother and sister and I were the only people in the whole church who used last names, when I was about 16, I started calling people by first and last name in conversations with others just to be clear. (Even our 82-year-old pastor was &quot;Curtis&quot; to everyone, even four-year-old children. So if I said &quot;Mrs. Burns,&quot; no one knew who I was talking about! I finally learned to say &quot;Esther Burns&quot; when talking about someone, &quot;Mrs. Burns&quot; when talking to her, and then I was being accurate and respectful enough. My brother and sister protested that I was being disrespectful to use first names along with last names, but my mom said that was OK. I think Mom and I were both tired of the conversations in which I said, &quot;Mrs. Burns&quot; and she said &quot;Who?&quot; and I said, &quot;Esther Burns,&quot; and we mutually agreed it was OK to simply say &quot;Esther Burns&quot; in the first place.)

I like it that in the South kids still say &quot;Miss Cheryl&quot; to adults. &quot;Sir&quot; and &quot;ma&#039;am&quot; are nice too, though not having grown up using them, they&#039;re still a little awkward for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Marilee.</p>
<p>I was raised by older parents (42 and 50 when I was born) who were if anything more conservative than their peers. Mom never did learn to accept use of first names, even between people of the same age, but would complain about the fact that society had gotten so informal. She referred nostalgically to the days when you&#8217;d known someone for years before one of you said, &#8220;Please call me Cheryl,&#8221; and the other said, &#8220;And you can call me Marilee.&#8221; I was born in 1967, so basically I grew up in the 70s and 80s. By the time I was a teenager, our churches had kids calling adults by their first names, and no way were we allowed to. (I felt daring that I considered it OK to use first names for people up to about 25. I had friends who were several years older, and simply didn&#8217;t want to be calling potential friends by their last names and thus starting the relationship as a &#8220;juvenile.&#8221;)</p>
<p>My mom sometimes referred to her friends by first and last name (I remember her doing that with her best friend&#8217;s name) and sometimes just Mrs. &#8212;. We were only allowed to use last names. </p>
<p>In one church where my brother and sister and I were the only people in the whole church who used last names, when I was about 16, I started calling people by first and last name in conversations with others just to be clear. (Even our 82-year-old pastor was &#8220;Curtis&#8221; to everyone, even four-year-old children. So if I said &#8220;Mrs. Burns,&#8221; no one knew who I was talking about! I finally learned to say &#8220;Esther Burns&#8221; when talking about someone, &#8220;Mrs. Burns&#8221; when talking to her, and then I was being accurate and respectful enough. My brother and sister protested that I was being disrespectful to use first names along with last names, but my mom said that was OK. I think Mom and I were both tired of the conversations in which I said, &#8220;Mrs. Burns&#8221; and she said &#8220;Who?&#8221; and I said, &#8220;Esther Burns,&#8221; and we mutually agreed it was OK to simply say &#8220;Esther Burns&#8221; in the first place.)</p>
<p>I like it that in the South kids still say &#8220;Miss Cheryl&#8221; to adults. &#8220;Sir&#8221; and &#8220;ma&#8217;am&#8221; are nice too, though not having grown up using them, they&#8217;re still a little awkward for me.
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